Marvel Chronology Project

Oh now isn't this ironic. I provided a solution back at the beginning of this thread which was NOT an easy solution but kept the integrity of NM@ 5 placement as it was written while explaining HOW XF@ 4 and the Atlantis Attacks conclusion could work. It was dismissed. :deadhorse: I pointed out an ea...

I'm just finding it pointless to try and cram NM@ 5 (and by extension XF@ 4 and the rest of the Atlantis Attacks conclusion) in a spot where you have to justify the surrounding dialogue (and an editor's note) to mean something else. There is nothing directly connecting NM 76 to XF 41. There are alre...

I made simultaneous posts arguing for BOTH placements. I'm clearly waffling on the issue. But I don't get your extreme rejection of the second solution. We're not interrupting a story arc or a cliffhanger or anything. There are already other stories between XF #42-43. What's one more? The ONLY othe...

The other side of things is X-Factor. Already a fairly large gap has been placed between NM 76 & XF 41 to accommodate some Marvel Comics Presents stories with Beast, his appearance in A 305 and the Archangel flashback story from XF 47. A lot of other unchronicled events could have happened ther...

I already explained why. Because it matches the "X-Factor is off somewhere and the New Mutants are concerned that they're not back yet" plot point that's in the Annual. It's going to be awkward whether we place it before XF #41 or after it. My feeling is that placing it after XF #41 invol...

Why would the New Mutants be concerned that X-Factor is not back from England yet in the Annual when they aren't acting worried about it in NM 77? They simply accept it as a fact that X-Factor is in England in NM 77. And they happen to find Ship very easily when they return in NM 77 from Russia with...

It's still awkward. Why manufacture further disruptions to the story arc from XF 41->NM 77~XF 42->[M/CP 17-24]->NM 78/XF 43 just "because" when there is already a gap between NM 76 & XF 41?

The other side of things is X-Factor. Already a fairly large gap has been placed between NM 76 & XF 41 to accommodate some Marvel Comics Presents stories with Beast, his appearance in A 305 and the Archangel flashback story from XF 47. A lot of other unchronicled events could have happened there...

Okay, based on the references linking XF #41 to NM #77, it sounds like there's a cleaner break point just before XF #41 than there is after it. ON THE OTHER HAND... If the Annual takes place between X-Factor #41 and New Mutants #77, it solves the problem of "why is X-Factor missing." In t...

Why? As far as I'm aware, it only has to go before #43, where they actually leave Earth. Because in XF 41 the New Mutants see X-Factor leave for England and Mirage is suffering from a headache & fever. They tell X-Factor they will leave for Russia to drop off Illyana. In NM 77 they go and while...

Michael wrote:Another problem is New Mutants 88- Rahne says that after returning from Asgard, they fought some Atlanteans underwater. I guess we'll just have to ignore that reference as well.

Yes, I'd mentioned that on the previous page of this thread.

If you're going to do this, then it has to go before their appearance in XF 41. It still really bothers me and if this is ever written up in an Index or some such, I'd like the alternative placements offered as well. Louise Simonson wrote both The New Mutants and X-Factor during this period. She wro...

X-Factor Annual 4 was published October of 1989. That is the same month as X-Factor #45 which is the third issue of the Judgement War storyline. While Beast is thinking about how he saw Jean being caught by a tractor beam, there is a Footnote on page 3, 2nd panel that says "*See an upcoming iss...

Events as Louise Simonson intended: Inferno Maddie's funeral/New Mutants find Namor's Horn X-Factor in England/New Mutants return Illyana to Russia, return to Ship & fight with possessed Mirage X-Factor launched into space/New Mutants sent to Asgard/Rusty & Skids arrested "Judgement War...

I'm sure if you were to ask Louise Simonson what happened there, she'd probably tell you that she had the two long storylines plotted out and ready to go and then Marvel told her that X-Factor and The New Mutants had to participate in Atlantis Attacks and Acts of Vengeance. I'm sure she thought she'...