Page 1 of 1

Squadron Supreme v4 #9

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:42 am
by DonCampbell
Warrior Woman (Zarda from Earth-21195) – also in flashbacks of how she conquered the country of Alambra, how she escaped from her dying Earth and how she met Power Princess from Earth-712 in the void between Earths and stole her powers
Modred the Mystic – also in flashback of his visit to New Attilan
The Myriad army – BTS – also in flashforward vision of a future when Prime Earth might be ruled by Zarda

Squadron Sinister (Doctor Spectrum, King Hyperion, Nighthawk, Whizzer) – only in flashback to how Warrior Woman killed them so that she could be the one to escape from Earth-21195

Ulysses – only in flashback of Modred’s secret visit to New Attilan
various Inhumans of New Attilan – only in flashback of Modred’s visit

Prince Namor – only in flashforward vision of a future when Prime Earth might be ruled by him and Warrior Woman

Power Princess (Zarda from Earth-712)


second story
----------------
Power Princess (Zarda from Earth-712) – also in flashbacks to how she escaped from her dying Earth to Prime Earth and how she learned about the Squadron Supreme

Hyperion from Earth-712 – only in flashback as he urged Zarda to be the one to survive

Squadron Supreme (Nighthawk from Earth-31916, Doctor Spectrum from Earth-4290001, Hyperion from Earth-13034, Blur from Earth-148611, Power Princess from Earth-712 [actually Warrior Woman from Earth-21195]) – all only in a video transmission in a flashback

residents of New York City – only in flashback
agents at a S.H.I.E.L.D. field base – only in flashback

alien at the Myriad base in Galveston, Texas – only in flashback
Daimon Hellstrom – only in flashback
Tyndall the Elf in Weirdworld – only in flashback to after issue #5

Hyperion (Marc Milton) – only in flashback

skeleton crew of one of The Myriad’s sky bases – all only in flashback

Note #1: Everything in this second story is part of an extended flashback except for Zarda in the very last panel.

Note #2: The fact that this Zarda and her Squadron Sinister came from Earth-21195 was revealed in All-New All-Different Marvel Universe #1.

Re: Squadron Supreme v4 #9

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:46 am
by Col_Fury
Is this the same Zarda that was seen in Squadron Sinister, though?

This Zarda murdered all of her Squadron teammates to make it through their bridge during their reality's incursion, then spent time in the void between realities (where she met the classic Zarda), then found herself on Earth-616. Classic Zarda also eventually found herself on Earth-616 after spending time in the void between realities.

The Squadron Sinister Zarda was still hanging out with her Squadron teammates on Battleworld after the incursions. Obviously, they were all still alive (on Battleworld, after the incursions), so they couldn't have all been murdered by Zarda.

I think this is just a very similar Zarda to the one seen in Squadron Sinister, but not the same one. There's the classic one (712), the Squadron Sinister one (21195), and this one (unnumbered so far).

Re: Squadron Supreme v4 #9

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:12 am
by DonCampbell
To be honest, this Zarda's Earth hasn't been given a number so far (in Squadron Supreme Vol. 4) since she revealed that she wasn't really the Power Princess from Earth-712. The Earth-21195 designation comes from the Marvel Handbook wiki which insists that Earth-21195 and its inhabitants (including all five of the Squadron Sinister) were resurrected with the rest of the Multiverse by Reed Richards after the end of Secret Wars but that their Earth then suffered a mysterious cataclysm that led to its being destroyed once again. For what it's worth, this Zarda and her Squadron Sinister did not know what was destroying their world so it may (or may not) have been an Incursion.

All-New, All-Different Marvel Universe #1 does state that the Squadron Sinister who ruled Utopolis on Battleworld were from a fragment of Earth-21195 which God Emperor Doom had salvaged but the idea that this team was the same as the one to which this Zarda had belonged does seem to originate from the Marvel Handbook wiki and is thus suspect. I guess I was just too eager to find some designation for this Zarda.

So, you could very well be right: There could be three Zardas instead of only two - the Power Princess from Earth-712, the Warrior Woman from Earth-21195/Battleworld, and this Warrior Woman from some as-yet-unnumbered Earth. It all depends on whether or not this Zarda's Earth was destroyed by an Incursion and if the void between Earths remained in existence after the Multiverse was destroyed.

Re: Squadron Supreme v4 #9

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:43 pm
by Somebody
DonCampbell wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:12 amThe Earth-21195 designation comes from the Marvel Handbook wiki ....
....
Somebody wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2016 4:50 pm
DonCampbell wrote:Plus, the Marvel Comics Database wiki thinks they are the same.
Never, ever, EVER trust marvel.wikia.

EVER.

Re: Squadron Supreme v4 #9

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:03 pm
by Col_Fury
DonCampbell wrote:It all depends on whether or not this Zarda's Earth was destroyed by an Incursion and if the void between Earths remained in existence after the Multiverse was destroyed.
Well, SQS4 9-FB shows that Zarda-712 was in the void during that time, and she never made it to Batleworld (that we know of). Zarda-712 doesn't remember ever being on Battleworld at least, and she doesn't have the memory problems that this SQS4 Zarda does/did.

Also, SQS4 9-FB shows this Zarda's Earth was being destroyed with red skies that could only be escaped by a Mr. Fantastic-like bridge, and that it was a mystery that no one understood. That sounds like a textbook incursion to me.
DonCampbell wrote:I guess I was just too eager to find some designation for this Zarda.
I know the feeling. :lol:

Re: Squadron Supreme v4 #9

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:49 am
by DonCampbell
Col_Fury wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:03 pmAlso, SQS4 9-FB shows this Zarda's Earth was being destroyed with red skies that could only be escaped by a Mr. Fantastic-like bridge, and that it was a mystery that no one understood. That sounds like a textbook incursion to me.
I'm still not sure that the void between Earths (and anyone trapped within it) could have survived the destruction of the entire Multiverse. However, I do concede that the Marvel Handbook wiki's explanation is, at best, unconfirmed.

So, what tag should I use to differentiate this Zarda from the other two? Any suggestions?

Re: Squadron Supreme v4 #9

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 2:40 pm
by Russ Chappell
Make up one, just not a number. No guarantees we'll use the designation you suggest, but it'll help you clarify which versions of characters you're talking about.

Something like

ZARDA | EARTH KILLER-ZARDA

could work.