Comics Missing from the Timely/Atlas List
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:43 pm
I've been compiling for the Complete Marvel Reading Order what we've been calling the Handbook Reading Order. This includes everything from the main 616 reading order from the Golden Age to the present, as well as everything we're including in the "Expanded Marvel Reading Order" (which includes alternate reality versions of 616 characters, other time periods for 616 like the westerns and Hyborian comics, as well as parallel realities that crossover with 616 like the New Universe and Ultraverse). What the Handbook reading order adds besides those stories are all of the stories that the handbooks/guidebooks/indices or any other official Marvel publication establish as 616 that we may not have otherwise known to classify as 616 (as well as the confirmed 616 humor/romance stories, since there are so many of them and very few people are interested in reading them). This includes some promotional/educational comics, horror/sci-fi stories in 40s/50s anthologies, and the like. It also includes stories that haven't specifically been referenced by the handbooks, but that the handbooks nevertheless give us every reason to believe are 616. The idea behind this last category of stories is that the official index series gives as official next/previous appearances of some historical or pre-Marvel fictional characters (such as Winston Churchill and the Three Musketeers) their appearances in some of the 40s/50s anthologies that are otherwise unconnected to 616 stories. Thus, we know that any historical or pre-Marvel fictional character who appears in a known 616 story (say, an issue of Avengers) should also have any of his/her appearances in the old anthologies considered as 616 stories as well (at least, if those old stories are consistent with 616). I've been slowly going through all of the 40s and 50s comics that I have access to (or access to information about) to make sure that all such above stories are included in the Handbook Reading Order. So far I've completed up through 1955. Below is a list of all the stories through 1955 I've found that y'all should include in the MCP that aren't already included and aren't on the Timely/Atlas list (I apologize if I accidentally list something that y'all have already included). If it would be desired, I can supply further info on more stories once I've completed more years.
I should note that here I'm only listing the issue numbers. For more detailed breakdowns on specifically which stories within the issues are confirmed as 616, as well as information for many of them on why they're 616 (e.g., because they include an appearance of Abraham Lincoln), see this thread at the CMRO forums (I don't replicate all of that info here because, as you'll see if you click that link, it would make this post enormous). This explains why I've listed some Patsy Walker issues below because, even though y'all don't include Patsy's stories, sometimes other characters (like Cindy Smith) would have stories included in Patsy issues.
Timely/Atlas Comics
3-D Action #1
Adventures into Terror vol. 1 #43, vol. 2 #4, 6, 10, 15-16, 19, 21, 29-30
Adventures into Weird Worlds #3-5, 11, 13, 15-17, 21-22, 24, 30
All True Crime #42
All True Crime Cases Comics #26
Amazing Detectice Cases #7
Amazing Mysteries #32-3
Astonishing #10, 18-19, 22, 31, 35, 42
Battle #3, 17-18, 20-21, 25-34, 36, 43
Battle Action #5-12, 14-15, 17, 20
Battle Brady #10-14
Battlefield #8, 10
Battlefront #6-11, 13-14, 16-17, 19-24, 26-30, 33, 35, 37
Battleground #2
Bible Tales for Young Folk #1-2
Bible Tales for Young Folks #3
Bible Tales for Young People #4-5
Blaze, the Wonder Collie #2-3
Combat #7-11
Combat Casey #6-34
Combat Kelly #1-44
Complete Mystery #1
Crimefighters #3-4, 9
Jann of the Jungle #8-17
Journey into Mystery #2, 6, 9, 11, 13-16, 21
Journey into Unknown Worlds vol. 1 #37, vol. 2 #4, 19-20, 22-23, 27-29, 34, 37, 39
Jungle Action vol. 1 #1-6
Jungle Tales #1-7
Justice #19-20, 34
Justice Comics #4
Krazy Komics #2
Lawbreakers Always Lose #1-2, 4
Lorna, the Jungle Girl #6-26
Lorna, the Jungle Queen #1-5
Man Comics #1, 22-24, 26-28
Marines in Action #1-4
Marines in Battle #1-9
Marvel Tales vol. 1 #96-97, 100, 106-107, 112-114, 127-128, 133, 135, 139
Men's Adventures #23-24
Menace #3, 7, 9
Miss America #53-66
Miss America Magazine vol. 7 #34-37
Mystery Tales #1, 6, 17, 21-22, 25-26, 29-30, 35
Mystic #5-6, 10, 17, 23-25, 31, 38-39
Mystic Comics vol. 2 #1-4
Navy Action #1-9
Navy Combat #1, 4
Oscar Comics vol. 1 #25, vol. 2 #4, 6-7
Patsy and Hedy #17-23, 26-29, 31-32, 83
Patsy and Her Pals #3-9
Patsy Walker #27-30, 33-35, 48-54, 59, 76, 92, 98-99
Patsy Walker Comics #10, 13-26
Police Action #7
Rawhide Kid #1-16
Red Warrior #1-6
Reno Browne #50
Rugged Action #4
Spellbound #7, 10, 22-23
Sports Action #3
Strange Tales #3, 5-10, 13, 15, 21, 27-29, 34, 39, 41
Suspense #7, 10, 15-16, 20, 23, 27
True Western #1-2
Uncanny Tales #6, 14-18, 22, 24
War Action #11-13
War Adventures #13
War Adventures on the Battlefield #2
War Combat #4-5
War Comics #3, 16-18, 21, 24-30, 34, 36-38
Western Outlaws #5, 7
Western Outlaws and Sheriffs #61-2, 65, 69, 73
Willie Lumpkin newspaper strips
Young Men #21-23
Young Men on the Battlefield #19-20
Non-Timely/Non-Atlas Comics
Marvel has occasionally pulled into 616 the non-Marvel stories of characters who have entered the public domain, such as Dr. Nemesis and the original Ghost Rider (Rex Fury). The following is a list of such stories that should also be included in those characters' chronologies.
Amazing Man Comics #5-26
Amazing Mystery Funnies #24 (American Ace)
The Arrow #2 (American Ace)
Best of the West #1-12 (Ghost Rider)
Black Phantom #1 (Ghost Rider)
Blackstone the Magician #1
Bobby Benson's B-Bar-B Riders #13-15 (Ghost Rider)
Cat-Man Comics vol. 2 #13-15, vol. 3 #1-2 (Volton)
Champ Comics #11-25 (Human Meteor)
Champion Comics #7-10 (Human Meteor)
Crash Comics #1-5 (Strongman)
The Eagle #2-4 (Spider Queen)
Funny Pages vol. 2 #3-4 (Dave Dean)
The Ghost Rider #1-14
Lightning Comics vol. 1 #6, vol. 2 #1-6, vol. 3 #1 (Dr. Nemesis)
Red Mask #42-50 (Ghost Rider)
Stars and Stripes Comics #2-6 (Amazing Man)
Super-Mystery Comics vol. 3 #3-4, 6 (Dr. Nemesis)
Tim Holt #6-41 (Ghost Rider)
Not to My Knowledge Confirmed to Be 616 But are Consistent with 616
This isn't a comprehensive list, but the following series jumped out at me as not being listed:
Billy Buckskin
The Kid from Dodge City
My Friend Irma newspaper strips
Reno Browne
Sailor Sweeney
I should note that here I'm only listing the issue numbers. For more detailed breakdowns on specifically which stories within the issues are confirmed as 616, as well as information for many of them on why they're 616 (e.g., because they include an appearance of Abraham Lincoln), see this thread at the CMRO forums (I don't replicate all of that info here because, as you'll see if you click that link, it would make this post enormous). This explains why I've listed some Patsy Walker issues below because, even though y'all don't include Patsy's stories, sometimes other characters (like Cindy Smith) would have stories included in Patsy issues.
Timely/Atlas Comics
3-D Action #1
Adventures into Terror vol. 1 #43, vol. 2 #4, 6, 10, 15-16, 19, 21, 29-30
Adventures into Weird Worlds #3-5, 11, 13, 15-17, 21-22, 24, 30
All True Crime #42
All True Crime Cases Comics #26
Amazing Detectice Cases #7
Amazing Mysteries #32-3
Astonishing #10, 18-19, 22, 31, 35, 42
Battle #3, 17-18, 20-21, 25-34, 36, 43
Battle Action #5-12, 14-15, 17, 20
Battle Brady #10-14
Battlefield #8, 10
Battlefront #6-11, 13-14, 16-17, 19-24, 26-30, 33, 35, 37
Battleground #2
Bible Tales for Young Folk #1-2
Bible Tales for Young Folks #3
Bible Tales for Young People #4-5
Blaze, the Wonder Collie #2-3
Combat #7-11
Combat Casey #6-34
Combat Kelly #1-44
Complete Mystery #1
Crimefighters #3-4, 9
Jann of the Jungle #8-17
Journey into Mystery #2, 6, 9, 11, 13-16, 21
Journey into Unknown Worlds vol. 1 #37, vol. 2 #4, 19-20, 22-23, 27-29, 34, 37, 39
Jungle Action vol. 1 #1-6
Jungle Tales #1-7
Justice #19-20, 34
Justice Comics #4
Krazy Komics #2
Lawbreakers Always Lose #1-2, 4
Lorna, the Jungle Girl #6-26
Lorna, the Jungle Queen #1-5
Man Comics #1, 22-24, 26-28
Marines in Action #1-4
Marines in Battle #1-9
Marvel Tales vol. 1 #96-97, 100, 106-107, 112-114, 127-128, 133, 135, 139
Men's Adventures #23-24
Menace #3, 7, 9
Miss America #53-66
Miss America Magazine vol. 7 #34-37
Mystery Tales #1, 6, 17, 21-22, 25-26, 29-30, 35
Mystic #5-6, 10, 17, 23-25, 31, 38-39
Mystic Comics vol. 2 #1-4
Navy Action #1-9
Navy Combat #1, 4
Oscar Comics vol. 1 #25, vol. 2 #4, 6-7
Patsy and Hedy #17-23, 26-29, 31-32, 83
Patsy and Her Pals #3-9
Patsy Walker #27-30, 33-35, 48-54, 59, 76, 92, 98-99
Patsy Walker Comics #10, 13-26
Police Action #7
Rawhide Kid #1-16
Red Warrior #1-6
Reno Browne #50
Rugged Action #4
Spellbound #7, 10, 22-23
Sports Action #3
Strange Tales #3, 5-10, 13, 15, 21, 27-29, 34, 39, 41
Suspense #7, 10, 15-16, 20, 23, 27
True Western #1-2
Uncanny Tales #6, 14-18, 22, 24
War Action #11-13
War Adventures #13
War Adventures on the Battlefield #2
War Combat #4-5
War Comics #3, 16-18, 21, 24-30, 34, 36-38
Western Outlaws #5, 7
Western Outlaws and Sheriffs #61-2, 65, 69, 73
Willie Lumpkin newspaper strips
Young Men #21-23
Young Men on the Battlefield #19-20
Non-Timely/Non-Atlas Comics
Marvel has occasionally pulled into 616 the non-Marvel stories of characters who have entered the public domain, such as Dr. Nemesis and the original Ghost Rider (Rex Fury). The following is a list of such stories that should also be included in those characters' chronologies.
Amazing Man Comics #5-26
Amazing Mystery Funnies #24 (American Ace)
The Arrow #2 (American Ace)
Best of the West #1-12 (Ghost Rider)
Black Phantom #1 (Ghost Rider)
Blackstone the Magician #1
Bobby Benson's B-Bar-B Riders #13-15 (Ghost Rider)
Cat-Man Comics vol. 2 #13-15, vol. 3 #1-2 (Volton)
Champ Comics #11-25 (Human Meteor)
Champion Comics #7-10 (Human Meteor)
Crash Comics #1-5 (Strongman)
The Eagle #2-4 (Spider Queen)
Funny Pages vol. 2 #3-4 (Dave Dean)
The Ghost Rider #1-14
Lightning Comics vol. 1 #6, vol. 2 #1-6, vol. 3 #1 (Dr. Nemesis)
Red Mask #42-50 (Ghost Rider)
Stars and Stripes Comics #2-6 (Amazing Man)
Super-Mystery Comics vol. 3 #3-4, 6 (Dr. Nemesis)
Tim Holt #6-41 (Ghost Rider)
Not to My Knowledge Confirmed to Be 616 But are Consistent with 616
This isn't a comprehensive list, but the following series jumped out at me as not being listed:
Billy Buckskin
The Kid from Dodge City
My Friend Irma newspaper strips
Reno Browne
Sailor Sweeney