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Re: AVX to INFINITY

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:40 pm
by Col_Fury
It should in the tail-end of the AVX chronology (but it's not), during AVX 12. Here's the relevant section of Wolverine's current MCP chronology:

WOLVERINE/"LOGAN"/JAMES HOWLETT
……
[AVX 12 (11 - 30)]
[W&X 18 (19 - 20)]
[W&X 19]
[W&X 21]
[W&X 22]
[W&X 23]
[DD3 13-FB]
[XF 238]
[AVX 12 (31 - 35)]
[AVX:C 1 (1 - 4)]
……

W&X 21-23 are also currently in Iceman's, Storm's and Kitty Pryde's chronologies. Oh, and W&X 23 is also in Doctor Strange's.

Re: AVX to INFINITY

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:46 pm
by Siabod
I have an issue with the placement of Uncanny Avengers #5

I see that the placement was because of the expansion of the roster in #5, where as in All New X-Men #11 its the smaller original roster

However, In All New X-men #13 we see Havok (possibly in real time) on a screen delivering his speech from Uncanny Avengers #5
So at least UA #5 comes around the same time as ANX #13 if not earlier. I think the sequence from UA meeting ANX in #11 to meeting again in #13 happens over abut 6 hours.

There is a gap in ANX #11 "Later". How much later, hours? a day? Where wolverine could appear in UA #5

I hope this makes sense

PS: thanks for the above, I'll have to remember to check to character chronologies next time

Re: AVX to INFINITY

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:59 pm
by Col_Fury
Ah! Yeah, that looks like a goof. Give me a bit to get caught up on some other things, and I'll look through my notes to see if that was addressed (my guess is it wasn't). I theory, during ANX 11 seems like the best bet.

Re: PS
Sure thing! Until the books are fully added into the MCP, things aren't complete, both in these maps and in the listings. I know we skipped things like A+X in the chronologies for now, and some other things slipped through the maps (like W&X 21-23). EVENTUALLY, everything will get smoothed out (that's what we're in the middle of with Secret Wars).

It's a process, but it's a fun process! :)

Re: AVX to INFINITY

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:43 am
by Siabod
Hi

I know that UA #7-22 has/is causing a lot if chronology issues...

But I thought I'd add another in case it might help the situation or least help placing some others.
In #22 Tony Stark recognises his "brother" Arno. However he doesn't discover him until IM #17 which is placed much later.
Tony is on Earth (in person, not drone) and in his black and gold armor

Re: AVX to INFINITY

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:10 am
by Col_Fury
Finally had a chance to look into this.

I moved UA 5-6 to during ANX 11-14. The Havok scene in ANX 13 has to be a flashback; Mystique and Sabretooth must be watching a recording on the news.

Also, that Arno in UA 22 is Iron Man 2020 from the future. Lots of other future characters appear in the issue as well. Iron Man has met Iron Man 2020 before; that's why he recognizes him (also, Arno says Kang destroyed his future in UA 22). So there's that.

Also also, we don't see Iron Man take his helmet off in UA 22 (or any other fleshy bits); he's always in his suit. It's established elsewhere that Iron Man is controlling drones on Earth while he's away in space (talking remotely as if he's there, controlling the drone suit in realt time, etc.), and this easily falls in that category.

So as far as Iron Man is concerned, the current UA 7-22 placement is just fine. Actually, given the appearance of Iron Man 2020, UA 7-22 almost needs to be before Tony meets the modern-day Arno. Otherwise, we'd expect a very different reaction from Tony in UA 22.

Thanks again, Siabod!

Re: AVX to INFINITY

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:20 am
by Siabod
Thanks
You're right about Tony in #22, but you do see his face in #21

Unrelated matter
just read Marvel Knights: X-Men, and it seems Wolverine has his healing factor. He even mentions his healing factor is working. However it is placed after Wolverine volume 5 #1-13 where he loses his needing factor

Re: AVX to INFINITY

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:40 pm
by Col_Fury
Re: Marvel Knights X-Men
You're right! It's been moved.

Re: Tony's stupid face
Ugh. You're right. Hmn.

Maybe he made an emergency trip back to fight Kang? Maybe it's a hologram face to calm his friends down to make them think he's back? Maybe the placement's wrong?

At some point we'll probably have to sit down and look at all the clues again to see how things shake out.

Thanks, Siabod!