AXIS to SECRET WARS

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Another thing I noticed:
CA&MA 8 (1-7) isn't listed here, despite being only 178 days before the incursion, which equates to just under 6 months. If AXIS happens at Thanksgiving, in late November, and the incursion takes place in July or later, that would mean this segment has to occur here.
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I've started working on a calendar of the Marvel Universe, as some of you know. Here is a timeline of the 26 days before the Incursion, and to some extent, the time before. Some of the detail lacks once you get to the final day, as there's just so many issues in one day, and I'm going to completely rewrite big sections of it at some point. Likewise, any references to past events in the Last Days tie-ins are not included, as I am yet to have time enough to catalogue these. Expect updates over the next few days, including these references, and sometime in the near future I'll start my version of AXIS, and the events between AXIS and Secret Wars.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1793 ... sp=sharing

I hope some people find this interesting.
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Additional notes:
- Blue entries take place in an alternate universe
- Anyone wanting my logic on order of events (especially last day), please just ask.

I'll do my best to finish up this 27 day period over the next couple of days.
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For a second I was going to ask why you think the person the doctor is talking to in the final scene of Captain America and the Mighty Avengers #9 is Iron Fist... and then I got a joke that may or may not have been intentional on either Al Ewing's part or yours. (The doctor's speech is addressed to "you," which could be the reader-as-character... but as innumerable captions have told us over the past 40 years, "you are Iron Fist.")
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That's not actually where I got that from. As we can see In the flashbacks, it has to be Like Cage or Iron Fist. And Like Cage is seen in a previous segment of the same issue spending his final moments with his family, meaning it has to be Iron fist.
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You a line in list as
INH 14-15 & @ 1 (after MSM3 15)

Is there an Inhuman #15?
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Nope! All fixed now, thanks!
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Query about Hulk placement

Legendary Star-Lord #8 has Peter and Kitty "making out" (in real life in space).

But she is on Earth to do brain surgery on Hulk in Hulk #9

There's mention of Kitty returning to Earth to get some more of her stuff before Black Vortex. I wasn't sure if this was a glib remark, or actually happened in story, and if so when?
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Ignore - just noticed you split SW #4

Also.

Avengers #34.2 has Spider-Woman in her clasic suit, and working for the Avengers. This is is placed after Spider-Woman #4 where she has quit the Avengers

Otherwise, there's no connection to any other comics out any time frame

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I think there's a problem with Flash/Venom's presence with the Guardians.

Flash joins in FCBD14:GOTG, a bit after INFINITY.
His next appearance with the Guardians is GOTG3 14-17, a bit before OSIN, in which they are captured by J'Son and scattered. At the end, they gather together back, all but Flash who decides to stay alone on Knowhere.
In GOTG3 21-23, after AXIS, Gamora finds by chance Flash on Knowhere, saying "The Guardians have been looking all over the galaxy for you."
The problem is, we have Flash appearing with the Guardians between GOTG3 17 and 21, in SS6 4 (between OSIN and AXIS), GTU 1-2 and GOTG@2 1 (after AXIS).

I think SS6 4 can be moved backward, soon after FCBD14:GOTG. The Guardians check alien spaceshifts flying to Earth, so it fits well just after INFINITY. Hulk appears, and it can be placed before INDH 20 (18-20) (Bruce shot in the head).

GOTG@2 1 could be moved forward after GOTG3 21-23 and Black Vortex, they fight SHIELD LMDs.

GTU 1-2 is more problematic : it features Lady Thor, so it's after AXIS. Spider-Woman is still with the Avengers, she quits in SW5 4 (11 - 20), which is currently after GTU 1-2 and before GOTG3 21-23. We should have GOTG3 21-23 > GTU 1-2 > SW5 4 (11 - 20).

What do you think?
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Beast is among the X-Men who party with Groot and Rocket in GROOT 6, so GROOT 6 should be before his trial and departure in UX 600.
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Col_Fury wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2015 4:24 pm AXIS (Thanksgiving)
CA&MA 4
SUPIM 2 (8-20), 3-4 (DD’s still a lawyer)
Thor v? 1-4
NO5 25 (1-27) (shortly after AXIS, lady Thor & robot arm Thor appear)
AWORLD 17 (1-19)
Cyclops v? 1-4
SUPIM 5
Magneto v? 13-15
ASM3 7-8
FF5 11 (15-20), 12-14 & FF 642-645 (1-31), FF 645-FB, FF 645/2, FF 645/3, FF 645 (32-35)
All-New Invaders 14-15
Punisher v? 10-18
ASM @ v? 1
Nightcrawler v? 8-12
FF 645/4
SHIELD3 1
Hulk v? 5 (start)
SUPIM 6-9
Amazing X-Men v? 15-19
Black Widow v? 12-18
UA2 1-5
S-H v? #12 (19-20)
X-Men v3 23-26
Deathlok v? 1-10
ROCRAC2 5
Hulk v? 5 (end)-6
Angela: Asgard’s Assassin 1-6
SILK 1
Thor @ v? 1
Wolverines 1-13
Storm v? 9-11
Guardians Team-Up #1-2 (lady Thor appears) (classic suit Spider-Woman)
Iron Fist: Living Weapon 12 (7-22)
Cannonball and Smasher appear in GTU 1-2, but they leave Earth for Chandilar in AWORLD 17 (1 - 19), and are still there on page 20 months later when their son is born. Of course, we could say they made a little trip back on Earth, but does anything prevent to put GTU 1-2 just before AWORLD 17? It would be a bit after T4 1-4, so it's OK for Jane Foster to appear as Thor.
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At the moment, GOTG v3 21-23 is placed after LSLORD 5-8.

In LSLORD 6, Kitty steals a Quinjet to rescue Star-Lord in space.

She remains at his side for issue 7 & 8 and in issue 8 she accepts his offer to live with her on space (and steal stuff).

In GOTG v3 21, Star-Lord is back at having holo dates with Kitty. And the problem is not just the date itself, it's the dialog, they don't talk as if they are already lovers, which they should be after LSLORD 8.

On the flipside, Star-Lord becomes president of Spartax in GOTG v3 23 and that is never referenced in LSLORD 5-8. But is that a problem?

TL,DR: I think GOTG v3 21-23 should happen before LSLORD 5-8
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Currently, the Wolverines series is broken in two parts

1-13 and 14-20

In the gap between 13 and 14 several things occur, one of which is UX3 34, where Mystique is captured by Dazzler and arrested.

Then, in Wolverines 14-20 she continues to appear, following her schemes from Wolverines 1-13.

Shouldn't UX3 34 (along with 35 and 600) appear after Wolverines 14-20?

I get the need for a break in Wolverines, due to X-23's appearance in Black Vortex (and probably more stuff), but placing UX3 34 in there seems incorrect to me.
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I'm currently starting to read the Time Runs Out arc and I'm having a hard time to understand the placement of Avengers World #21.

Aside from the Epilogue, which clearly happens later, why can't the issue immediately follow AW #20?

Namor actions perfectly lead into his visit to Latveria in NA3 25.
The events in Savage Land can also occur before what is depicted in A5 35.

I may be overlooking something here, of course.

I'm searching for evidence on the board but can't seem to find it.
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