Spider-Man: Christmas 1996

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Re: Spider-Man: Christmas 1996

Post by Col_Fury » Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:41 am

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Re: Spider-Man: Christmas 1996

Post by lettsmonster » Sun Jun 19, 2016 7:35 pm

A couple more things as I keep reading this time period, Col_Fury.

First, JAMESON, JOHN JONAH JR. appears on pages 15 and 16 of SENSM 16. This appearance is currently unlisted. Based on Spider-Man's appearances, I would place SENSM 16 between SMU 16 and SENSM 18 in Jameson's timeline.

Second, DD 359 and 360 are placed before SM 75 in Foggy Nelson's chronology, thus occurring during Ben Reilly's reign as Spider-Man. This is necessary because in DD 359 we see Foggy Nelson receiving his invitation to the Green Goblin's Halloween party in SM 75.
However, In Daredevil and Rosalind Sharpe's chronologies, DD 359 and 360 are listed as taking place after the V:OT series, which occurs after Peter Parker has resumed the role of Spider-Man. I think DD 359 and 360 need to be placed before V:OT to line up with Foggy's experiences.

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Re: Spider-Man: Christmas 1996

Post by Col_Fury » Sun Jun 19, 2016 11:19 pm

DD 359-360 would need to be moved to before T/MU 1 for Daredevil, since Peter is back as Spider-Man by then (TB 1 (where Parker appears as Spider-Man) happens before TM/U 1 (or at least, that's how it's currently placed)).

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Re: Spider-Man: Christmas 1996

Post by lettsmonster » Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:53 pm

One concern regarding the placement of M/VAL SPEC /5 in the Cyclops and Phoenix chronologies, Col_Fury.

Even with the later moves we have made, M/VAL SPEC /5 is still placed before UX 342, a Christmas Eve running into Christmas Day story. Problematic is the coinciding appearance of Jubilee. Her appearance in M/VAL SPEC /5 is placed as late as possible in her chronology given the fact that she becomes a prisoner of Bastion in GENX 25. Not much room to wiggle.

Is it possible to place this Valentine's Day story in an earlier year? It references the ACY&PHX mini-series from years before and would make more sense to be from a time when Jubilee was staying at Xavier's mansion, not when she was with Generation X in Massachusetts.

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Re: Spider-Man: Christmas 1996

Post by Col_Fury » Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:20 am

Good catch!

Moving it to after UX 342 and before Operation: Zero Tolerance (X2 62 for Cyclops & Phoenix, GENH 25 for Jubilee) lines it up with everything else. It just kind of points out that there's "months" of not much happening for the X-Characters. That was already apparent in Jubilee's chronology though, and was made necessary by a bunch of the X-Men getting stranded in space. So, you know, there it is.

As for placing it in the past, we don't know that Jubilee is staying at the Xavier Institute here; she could just be visiting.
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