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The gift that keeps on giving

Post by robfj » Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:41 pm

Here's another little chronology clash in Secret Wars II, involving She-Hulk again. (And I think the last 1 from me.)

SHE-HULK
....
SECWARSII 5
FF 285
LSHOT 4
FF 286
FF 287
FF 288
IH2 316 **
NM 37 **
SECWARSII 9
....

Note the 2 issues between FF 288 and SECWARSII 9.

The prime chronology line for SWII is:-

BEYONDER
....
SECWARSII 5 (1 - 22:3)
TG 30
DS2 74
SECWARSII 5 (22:4 - 25)
FF 285
SECWARSII 6
CAD2 4
MICRO2 16
PP 18
T 363
PM&IF 121
SECWARSII 7
NM 36
ASM 273 (1 - 21:6)
UX 202
NDEF 152
PPSSM 111 (1 - 12:3)
ASM 273 (21:7 - 23) ~ PPSSM 111 (12:4 - 12:8)
PPSSM 111 (13 - 25)
SECWARSII 8 (1 - 13)
MARVELS:EYE 4
SECWARSII 8 (14 - 26:6)
NM 37 **
ASM 274
COH 4
SECWARSII 8 (26:7 - 27)
A 265
UX 203
FF 288
SECWARSII 9
....

This definitely places NM 37 before FF 288.

Meanwhile:-

HULK (BANNER-LESS)
....
IH2 315
IH2 316
SECWARSII 8
SECWARSII 9
....

HERCULES
....
SECWARSII 5
HV.HRC:WTC-FB
FF 285
A 262
A 263
FF 286
CA 314
A 264
IH2 316
SECWARSII 8
A 265
SECWARSII 9
....

SUB-MARINER
....
FF 286-BTS
CA 314-BTS
A 264
IH2 316
SECWARSII 8
A 265
SECWARSII 9
....

all agree that IH2 316 precedes SECWARSII 8 which is before FF 288. And no-one else in that issue disagrees.

Possibly She-Hulk got left behind during some reshuffle. I suggest that IH2 316 and NM 37 be moved to before FF 288. FF 287 and 288 are connected so the moved pair should precede FF 287 as well.

Hulk's bit of SECWARSII 8 occurs in the main bulk of the issue, and NM 37 separates that part from the last 2 pages (which includes the apps of Hercules and Sub-Mariner). But Hulk has IH2 316 before his Secret Wars app, which means IH2 316 precedes NM 37, as She-Hulk correctly has it.

Hercules and Sub-Mariner indicate that IH2 316 is after FF 286. I find no contraindication for that.

So the new version of She-Hulk's chronology should be:-

SHE-HULK
....
SECWARSII 5
FF 285
LSHOT 4
FF 286
IH2 316 } moved from
NM 37 } after FF 288
FF 287
FF 288
SECWARSII 9
....

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