Spider-Man in SECINV:ASM 3
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 5:21 pm
Spider-Man
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NA 48 (1 - 2)
SECINV 8 (20 - 21)-FB
SECINV:FL 5 (8 - 22)
NA 48 (3 - 20)
SECINV:ASM 3
ASM@2 1 (1 - 34)
ASM 584
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Thread 'Iron Man, Spider-Man, Thunderbolts and Secret Invasion' 23 Nov 2008 discussed placement of various issues. But for SECINV:ASM 3 it only worried about the Coffee Bean being repaired after being blown up in ASM 572 (pre-SECINV). This is also true for ASM@2 1 so presumably it is considered OK for these 2 to be about here. And SECINV:ASM 3 has to be before Jackpot dies in ASM@2 1.
Thread 'Skrull Invasion chronology' 29 Dec 2008 contained
SECRET INVASION: AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #3 (20-22)
One “Saturday morning,” “several days” after SI:ASM 3 (17-19), during which time Spidey may be fighting Skrulls around the world. This segment occurs before ASM@2 1 (4-12), must occur before SI:FL 5-FB (9:1-9:2), and probably before SI 8 (22-23). Peter returns to the Coffee Bean to see Harry, Vin, Lily, and Carlie, who haven’t seen him since before SI. Peter explains that he was in Queens the whole time, since communications and transportation were disrupted. As Jackpot takes a bath, she gets a phone message from Sara Ehret, who congratulates her on her performance.
SECRET INVASION: FRONT LINE #5 – FB (9:1-9:2)
One day. Peter Parker, Joe Robertson, Matt Murdock, and Ben Urich are among those in attendance at Doris Urich’s funeral. Green grass and trees and blowing leaves in New York.
This is the relevant bit for me. Spidey resumes his Peter Parker role in the 1st section, which should occur before attending the funeral in the 2nd section. That is Spidey's only app in SECINV:FL 5.
This thread has NA 48 (3 - 20) before both Spidey's apps in SECINV:ASM 3 (the other part is p17-19). This would suggest changing Spider-Man's chronology to
NA 48 (1 - 2)
SECINV 8 (20 - 21)-FB
NA 48 (3 - 20)
SECINV:ASM 3
SECINV:FL 5 (8 - 22)
ASM@2 1 (1 - 34)
ASM 584
Of course this doesn't imply that the whole of SECINV:FL 5 (8 - 22) necessarily occurs after NA 48 (3 - 20), merely Spidey's little bit and whatever follows it.
Unfortunately there's another reason for putting the Spidey bit of SECINV:FL 5 (8 - 22) *before* NA 48 (3 - 20), which involves UX 505 which Paul Bourcier hadn't included in his thread.
Norman Osborn
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SECINV 8 (23:4 - 23:6)
SECINV:FL 5 **
DR:YA 2-FB
TB 126 (10 - 22)-VO
SECINV:DR (1 - 2)-BTS **
UX 505-BTS **
SECINV:DR (3 - 7)-BTS **
SECINV 8 (24)
SECINV 8 (25 - 26) ~ SECINV:DR (8) ~ DA 1 (1 - 2) ~ UX@2 2 (11) **
SECINV:DR (9 - 27) **
....
Emma Frost
....
SECINV:DR (1 - 2) **
UX 504
UX 505 **
SECINV:DR (3 - 7) **
SECINV 8 (25 - 26) ~ SECINV:DR (8) ~ DA 1 (1 - 2) ~ UX@2 2 (11) **
SECINV:DR (9 - 27) **
UX@2 2 (12)
UX 506 (1 - 21) **
UX 507-FB
UX 506 (22) **
....
Wolverine
....
NA 48 (1 - 2) **
SECINV 8 (20 - 21)-FB
XFOR3 7
XFOR3 8
XFOR3 9
XFOR3 10
XFOR3 11
X:WORLDS 4
X:MD 3/3
UX 506 **
W:CS-FB
W:CS
W:SB-FB
W:SB
W:SB /2-FB
W:SB /2
NA 48 (3 - 20) **
....
These form a chain SECINV:FL 5 -> SECINV:DR~UX 505 -> UX 506 -> NA 48 (3 - 20). Paul had NA 48 (3 - 20) placed earlier because it is written as though there is not much time between NA 48 (1 - 2) and it. But Wolverine's chronology alone denies that.
And Osborn's app in SECINV:FL 5 is a press conference which definitely occurs after the funeral which Peter Parker attends. (Ben Urich remembers various funerals while suffering a writer's block which prevents him from writing about SECINV. Then Osborn's press conference breaks the writer's block.)
So my proposal for Spidey's chronology is not to move SECINV:FL 5 (8 - 22) but instead move SECINV:ASM 3.
Spider-Man
....
NA 48 (1 - 2)
SECINV 8 (20 - 21)-FB
SECINV:ASM 3 moved from after NA 48 (3 - 20)
SECINV:FL 5 (8 - 22)
NA 48 (3 - 20)
ASM@2 1 (1 - 34)
ASM 584
....
....
NA 48 (1 - 2)
SECINV 8 (20 - 21)-FB
SECINV:FL 5 (8 - 22)
NA 48 (3 - 20)
SECINV:ASM 3
ASM@2 1 (1 - 34)
ASM 584
....
Thread 'Iron Man, Spider-Man, Thunderbolts and Secret Invasion' 23 Nov 2008 discussed placement of various issues. But for SECINV:ASM 3 it only worried about the Coffee Bean being repaired after being blown up in ASM 572 (pre-SECINV). This is also true for ASM@2 1 so presumably it is considered OK for these 2 to be about here. And SECINV:ASM 3 has to be before Jackpot dies in ASM@2 1.
Thread 'Skrull Invasion chronology' 29 Dec 2008 contained
SECRET INVASION: AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #3 (20-22)
One “Saturday morning,” “several days” after SI:ASM 3 (17-19), during which time Spidey may be fighting Skrulls around the world. This segment occurs before ASM@2 1 (4-12), must occur before SI:FL 5-FB (9:1-9:2), and probably before SI 8 (22-23). Peter returns to the Coffee Bean to see Harry, Vin, Lily, and Carlie, who haven’t seen him since before SI. Peter explains that he was in Queens the whole time, since communications and transportation were disrupted. As Jackpot takes a bath, she gets a phone message from Sara Ehret, who congratulates her on her performance.
SECRET INVASION: FRONT LINE #5 – FB (9:1-9:2)
One day. Peter Parker, Joe Robertson, Matt Murdock, and Ben Urich are among those in attendance at Doris Urich’s funeral. Green grass and trees and blowing leaves in New York.
This is the relevant bit for me. Spidey resumes his Peter Parker role in the 1st section, which should occur before attending the funeral in the 2nd section. That is Spidey's only app in SECINV:FL 5.
This thread has NA 48 (3 - 20) before both Spidey's apps in SECINV:ASM 3 (the other part is p17-19). This would suggest changing Spider-Man's chronology to
NA 48 (1 - 2)
SECINV 8 (20 - 21)-FB
NA 48 (3 - 20)
SECINV:ASM 3
SECINV:FL 5 (8 - 22)
ASM@2 1 (1 - 34)
ASM 584
Of course this doesn't imply that the whole of SECINV:FL 5 (8 - 22) necessarily occurs after NA 48 (3 - 20), merely Spidey's little bit and whatever follows it.
Unfortunately there's another reason for putting the Spidey bit of SECINV:FL 5 (8 - 22) *before* NA 48 (3 - 20), which involves UX 505 which Paul Bourcier hadn't included in his thread.
Norman Osborn
....
SECINV 8 (23:4 - 23:6)
SECINV:FL 5 **
DR:YA 2-FB
TB 126 (10 - 22)-VO
SECINV:DR (1 - 2)-BTS **
UX 505-BTS **
SECINV:DR (3 - 7)-BTS **
SECINV 8 (24)
SECINV 8 (25 - 26) ~ SECINV:DR (8) ~ DA 1 (1 - 2) ~ UX@2 2 (11) **
SECINV:DR (9 - 27) **
....
Emma Frost
....
SECINV:DR (1 - 2) **
UX 504
UX 505 **
SECINV:DR (3 - 7) **
SECINV 8 (25 - 26) ~ SECINV:DR (8) ~ DA 1 (1 - 2) ~ UX@2 2 (11) **
SECINV:DR (9 - 27) **
UX@2 2 (12)
UX 506 (1 - 21) **
UX 507-FB
UX 506 (22) **
....
Wolverine
....
NA 48 (1 - 2) **
SECINV 8 (20 - 21)-FB
XFOR3 7
XFOR3 8
XFOR3 9
XFOR3 10
XFOR3 11
X:WORLDS 4
X:MD 3/3
UX 506 **
W:CS-FB
W:CS
W:SB-FB
W:SB
W:SB /2-FB
W:SB /2
NA 48 (3 - 20) **
....
These form a chain SECINV:FL 5 -> SECINV:DR~UX 505 -> UX 506 -> NA 48 (3 - 20). Paul had NA 48 (3 - 20) placed earlier because it is written as though there is not much time between NA 48 (1 - 2) and it. But Wolverine's chronology alone denies that.
And Osborn's app in SECINV:FL 5 is a press conference which definitely occurs after the funeral which Peter Parker attends. (Ben Urich remembers various funerals while suffering a writer's block which prevents him from writing about SECINV. Then Osborn's press conference breaks the writer's block.)
So my proposal for Spidey's chronology is not to move SECINV:FL 5 (8 - 22) but instead move SECINV:ASM 3.
Spider-Man
....
NA 48 (1 - 2)
SECINV 8 (20 - 21)-FB
SECINV:ASM 3 moved from after NA 48 (3 - 20)
SECINV:FL 5 (8 - 22)
NA 48 (3 - 20)
ASM@2 1 (1 - 34)
ASM 584
....