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Wolverine: First Class

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:32 pm
by Somebody
http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.co ... rst-class/

And the third verse is in the same key as the first two :)
Fred Van Lente wrote:2. These adventures of Wolverine and Kitty are going to be “in Marvel continuity,” right?

Yes, the first eight issues are set between X-MEN #139 and #150, so right after Jean Grey’s funeral at the end of the Dark Phoenix Saga and right after Kitty Pryde shows up at Xavier’s school. Cyclops has struck out on his own after Jean’s death, leaving Storm the new leader.

3. How closely did you pay attention to the older issues of Uncanny that these stories are told “in between”? Is this similar to Untold Tales of Spider-Man, or is it a lot freer than that?

I think the average fan would be shocked to learn how much time and energy Marvel puts into getting continuity 100% right. Given the number of books and creators and the history involved perfection is never achieved, but when I started working here I was somewhat stunned at how seriously continuity is taken.

In fact, Marvel has a team of four or so crack X-Perts who pour over each Wolverine First Class script and make sure every iota slides neatly “into” the X-Men era mention above. You should see the memos I get! But it’s cool, it actually has enhanced the scripts and certainly hasn’t prevented me from telling any stories I want to tell.

And it means all our First Class tales are official parts of X-Men lore, in “616″ continuity, as they say, which is really exciting.
And yet, they've gone to the trouble of putting the wrong Wolvie costume in the cover :)

Re: Wolverine: First Class

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:32 pm
by loki
Somebody wrote:http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.co ... rst-class/

And the third verse is in the same key as the first two :)
Fred Van Lente wrote:2. These adventures of Wolverine and Kitty are going to be “in Marvel continuity,” right?

Yes, the first eight issues are set between X-MEN #139 and #150, so right after Jean Grey’s funeral at the end of the Dark Phoenix Saga and right after Kitty Pryde shows up at Xavier’s school. Cyclops has struck out on his own after Jean’s death, leaving Storm the new leader.

3. How closely did you pay attention to the older issues of Uncanny that these stories are told “in between”? Is this similar to Untold Tales of Spider-Man, or is it a lot freer than that?

I think the average fan would be shocked to learn how much time and energy Marvel puts into getting continuity 100% right. Given the number of books and creators and the history involved perfection is never achieved, but when I started working here I was somewhat stunned at how seriously continuity is taken.

In fact, Marvel has a team of four or so crack X-Perts who pour over each Wolverine First Class script and make sure every iota slides neatly “into” the X-Men era mention above. You should see the memos I get! But it’s cool, it actually has enhanced the scripts and certainly hasn’t prevented me from telling any stories I want to tell.

And it means all our First Class tales are official parts of X-Men lore, in “616″ continuity, as they say, which is really exciting.
And yet, they've gone to the trouble of putting the wrong Wolvie costume in the cover :)
Nope. Fred misspoke. The stories are set between #138 and #150. Kitty joined in #138. Wolverine didn't change costumes until #139. So there is a small window for her to be at the school and him to be in the yellow costume.

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:57 pm
by Col_Fury
So First Class is doing so well that it's getting a sequel? That's pretty cool.

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:00 pm
by Somebody
Col_Fury wrote:So First Class is doing so well that it's getting a sequel? That's pretty cool.
No - it got a sequel (v2). This is a spin-off running alongside it :)

Re: Wolverine: First Class

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:28 am
by Starman
Fred Van Lente wrote:About Wolvie’s costume:

My bad, I contradicted myself in the interview. I said both that the series takes place between #139 and #150 _and_ that it takes place between Jean Grey’s funeral and Cyclops’ return, which are not the same thing.

The latter statement is the more accurate one.

Jean’s funeral and Kitty’s arrival at the school both occur in #138 and Wolvie, as Brian pointed out, doesn’t get the brown costume until #139.

Wolverine First Class #1 takes place between #138 and #139, so our cover has got the right costume for him.

Like I said: we’re trying our darnedest to get the continuity right on this one.

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:26 pm
by Ocean Doot
So that cover features Kitty circa X-Men 138, huh? I wonder if the first story involves her getting temporary breast implants for an undercover assignment ...

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:45 pm
by Starman
Drastic measures like surgery is not necessary. It's not uncommon for teen-girls to stuff their bras. :-P

Re: Wolverine: First Class

Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:14 pm
by Somebody

Re: Wolverine: First Class

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:31 pm
by Somebody

Re: Wolverine: First Class

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:22 pm
by Starman
I see that Xavier mentions Magneto's Brotherhood even though Magneto didn't have a brotherhood at this point, unless I'm misremembering something... :?

Re: Wolverine: First Class

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:35 am
by wolframbane
An observations, based on the preview, the date is given as August 20 (for Paul Bourcier's timeline notes).

Re: Wolverine: First Class

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 5:37 pm
by Paul Bourcier
wolframbane wrote:
An observations, based on the preview, the date is given as August 20 (for Paul Bourcier's timeline notes).
That's several weeks earlier than my estimate, which in turn is earlier than Olshevsky's estimate. The Official Marvel Index to the X-Men, Vol. 1 placed the Hellfire Saga in late October while I place it in late September. The reference to "mid-winter" in the Hellfire Saga was noted as topical.

Re: Wolverine: First Class

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:18 am
by wolframbane
Paul Bourcier wrote:wolframbane wrote:
An observations, based on the preview, the date is given as August 20 (for Paul Bourcier's timeline notes).
That's several weeks earlier than my estimate, which in turn is earlier than Olshevsky's estimate. The Official Marvel Index to the X-Men, Vol. 1 placed the Hellfire Saga in late October while I place it in late September. The reference to "mid-winter" in the Hellfire Saga was noted as topical.
Also, UX 171 states that the night Phoenix died (as well as the night that Madeline Pryor believed she had her plane crash) was omn September 1.

Re: Wolverine: First Class

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:54 am
by wolframbane
For placement of this story, it would be after UX 138, when Kitty moved to the mansion, but before UX 139, when she was first shown in costume. In W:FC 1, she states it is the first time she is in costume. Wolverine was last shown in his yellow costume in UX 137 and UX@ 4, and then in his brown costume in UX 139, and is in his yellow costume in W:FC 1. I cannot say if he will continue to wear his yellow costume throughout the series, but if he does and it overlaps with post-UX 139, we could assume he alternates. I would suggest:

ANGEL III/WARREN KENNETH WORTHINGTON III
...
UX 138
M/TE 27
W:FC 1
UX 139
...

COLOSSUS III/PETER RASPUTIN
...
UX 138
UX@ 4
*W:FC 1
UX 139
...

NIGHTCRAWLER/KURT WAGNER
...
UX 138
UX@ 4
*W:FC 1
UX 139
...

PROFESSOR X
...
UX 138
UX@ 4
*W:FC 1
UX 139
...

SHADOWCAT/KATHERINE "KITTY" PRYDE
...
UX 138
UX@ 4
*W:FC 1
UX 139
...

STORM
...
UX 138
UX@ 4
*W:FC 1
UX 139
...

WOLVERINE
...
UX 138
UX@ 4
*W:FC 1
UX 139
...

Re: Wolverine: First Class

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:06 am
by JephYork
I cannot say if he will continue to wear his yellow costume throughout the series
I'm fairly sure that early interviews have said that, after this first issue, he'll switch to the brown costume.

Fingers crossed.

-Jeph!