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King-Size Spider-Man Summer Special

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:32 pm
by Paul Bourcier
The first page of King-Size Spider-Man Summer Special states:

"Warning! The following stories did not really happen! (...they don't count for the Spider-Man in Amazing Spider-Man, before or after Brand New Day...)"

This declaration of non-canonicity clearly applies to three of the four stories in the comic, but what about "Street Monsters?"

At first glance, it looks like it could be canonical. It's a Spidey team-up story with the Falcon that appears to date from the period of time after Falcon decided in CA 138 that Spidey wasn't a criminal despite the webhead's reputation and before Falcon got his red and white costume in CA 144. A rather small window.

On second glance, two possible problems are evident:
1) The costume Falcon wears in KSSMSS is not quite identical to his original costume; there are a few color variations here and there. Probably not a big continuity wrecker.
2) Spidey learns in KSSMSS that Sam Wilson is the Falcon. I don't know if a story set later in time (say, M/TU 30?) demonstrates that Spidey does not know the Falcon's identity. Potentially a continuity wrecker, unless the story in KSSMS can be placed later and the costume attributed to a short-lived, never-before-seen change of pace for Falcon.

Does anyone have other observations about this story?

Re: King-Size Spider-Man Summer Special

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:43 pm
by Russ Chappell
Remember the Prime Directive of Canon. For our purposes, a story is canon unless A) it can't be, or B) Marvel says it isn't. Therefore, even if a story could be canon, if Marvel says it didn't happen, then it didn't.


watching: olympics

Re: King-Size Spider-Man Summer Special

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:15 pm
by cweed4
Did the opening page happen to mention ASM 545 anywhere?
Spoiler:
*doh*

:lol:

:wink:

:?

:(

*brickwall*
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Re: King-Size Spider-Man Summer Special

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 2:01 pm
by Paul Bourcier
Russ wrote:
if Marvel says it didn't happen, then it didn't.
True, and if the story in question were the only story in the book, I'd end it there. But I can't help but wonder if "the following stories" pertained to 3 of the 4.

Re: King-Size Spider-Man Summer Special

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 2:53 pm
by Somebody
Paul Bourcier wrote:Russ wrote:
if Marvel says it didn't happen, then it didn't.
True, and if the story in question were the only story in the book, I'd end it there. But I can't help but wonder if "the following stories" pertained to 3 of the 4.
Only if one of the stories preceded the message. You say the message is on p1 = All Non-Canon.