X-Men Origins, etc.
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:24 pm
Hello all,
I know you have begun trying to fit X-Men: First Class, et al., into continuity. I want to address some of the X-Men origin stories, specifically what is in and and what is out.
The original "origins" ran as backups in X-Men vol. 1 #38-57. As Paul O'Brien has repeatedly indicated, they are not that great.
When X-Men: Children of the Atom came out, I was ready to embrace it as a retcon, but it was rejected by MCP. The publication of X-Men Origins: Beast confirms the 1960s versions is at least the correct template.
However, I was unimpressed by Angel: Revelations, which seemed too far afield from the original story in X-Men vol. 1 #54. It may conflict with X-Terminators #1, which I believe said Warren attended Phillips Exeter. The Worthingtons also seemed pretty WASPy as well, which clashed with the story Aguirre-Sacasa was trying to tell, which was very critical of the Catholic Church. (Don't get me started on trying to figure out when/if/how the Worthingtons know Warren is a mutant in XMFC)
In the last few months we have had Angel: Revelations, X-Men Origin: Colossus, X-Men Origins: Beast, X-Men Origins: Jean Grey, and X-Men: Magneto Testament. Excusing Magneto (which is incomplete but had an excellent first issue), where do these rank in terms of canonicity? What about the Uncanny Origins series? Given the fuller treatment of those stories more recently (X-Men Origins: Beast, Ororo: Before the Storm, and Storm vol. 2 spring to mind), are those still in continuity?
I know this is done on a case to case basis, sometimes panel to panel, but I was wondering what your thoughts were on these issues.
Thanks,
Gregory N. Baker
I know you have begun trying to fit X-Men: First Class, et al., into continuity. I want to address some of the X-Men origin stories, specifically what is in and and what is out.
The original "origins" ran as backups in X-Men vol. 1 #38-57. As Paul O'Brien has repeatedly indicated, they are not that great.
When X-Men: Children of the Atom came out, I was ready to embrace it as a retcon, but it was rejected by MCP. The publication of X-Men Origins: Beast confirms the 1960s versions is at least the correct template.
However, I was unimpressed by Angel: Revelations, which seemed too far afield from the original story in X-Men vol. 1 #54. It may conflict with X-Terminators #1, which I believe said Warren attended Phillips Exeter. The Worthingtons also seemed pretty WASPy as well, which clashed with the story Aguirre-Sacasa was trying to tell, which was very critical of the Catholic Church. (Don't get me started on trying to figure out when/if/how the Worthingtons know Warren is a mutant in XMFC)
In the last few months we have had Angel: Revelations, X-Men Origin: Colossus, X-Men Origins: Beast, X-Men Origins: Jean Grey, and X-Men: Magneto Testament. Excusing Magneto (which is incomplete but had an excellent first issue), where do these rank in terms of canonicity? What about the Uncanny Origins series? Given the fuller treatment of those stories more recently (X-Men Origins: Beast, Ororo: Before the Storm, and Storm vol. 2 spring to mind), are those still in continuity?
I know this is done on a case to case basis, sometimes panel to panel, but I was wondering what your thoughts were on these issues.
Thanks,
Gregory N. Baker