Emma Frost's chronology

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Emma Frost's chronology

Post by Paul Bourcier » Sat May 23, 2009 9:13 am

I can't say that I'm up on Emma's chronology, since I don't have all the issues that deal with her life. The second story in the recent DARK REIGN: THE CABAL #1 shows many scenes from that life. Some of the panels probably duplicate already-published scenes, but it looks like other panels may contain new information. Can anyone shed light on how the flashbacks in DR:TC 1/2 tie in to Emma's chronology?
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Re: Emma Frost's chronology

Post by JD » Sat May 23, 2009 11:08 am

Let's see...

Page 1 : flashbacks to the Sentinel attack on Genosha.... Panels 3-4 may barely yield some new information as compared to X 115 20p4-21p1 (showing respectively Emma seeing the flaming debris, and Emma and Negasonic Teenage Warhead's position when it hits the building), but I'd attribute it to artistic reinterpretation.

Page 2 : I don't have GENX 70 on hand, sorry.

Page 3 : This is UX 281. I don't think there's any new material, though.

Page 4 : Panels 1-2 are from UX 131. I think the third one, showing Emma rebuilding herself, is new material. Her chronology shows her next in XFOR 87 : what was that about ?

Page 5 : All of these panels have direct equivalents in X 139-FB, pages 9-10. No new information.

Page 6 : Someone with EF 18 on hand to tell which (if any) panels are new ?

Page 7 : wow, this is murky. Panel 3 is an Hellion dying (same scene as page 3), panel 4 is the Phoenix attack (same scene as page 4), no idea for the other two.

Page 8 : Panel 1 is a random shot of Emma Frost, genius entrepreneur. I'm sure there were lots of those in GENX, so I don't think it's new. Panel 2 is the same scene as page 6. Panel 4 is new information, set between X 115 and X 116, showing Emma Frost in diamond form for the first time.

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Re: Emma Frost's chronology

Post by GodRob » Sat May 23, 2009 11:34 am

EDIT: JD posted while I was typing. Must learn to type faster.

Here's a breakdown of the pages and the sources (if any):

The first page, Emma thinks about losing her students in Genosha - X-Men 115. Two panels with possible new info: Emma watching the fireball approach and the explosion actually hitting her classroom. Still, there's a strong possibility that these two panels have been shown elsewhere since X-Men 115.

Second page, Emma thinks about losing Synch - Generation X 70 and 75: no new material

Third page, Emma thinks about losing Hellions - Uncanny X-Men 281. no new material

Fourth page, Emma thinks about rebuilding her mind during her Phoenix induced coma - third panel appears to be either new or a mistake. This is very similar to a scene from Uncanny X-Men 169, which shows Emma in a Mastermind induced coma being cared for by Tessa and Shaw. (I hope that's Tessa) If it's new, then it occurs between UX 131 and X-Force 87. Haven't the different comas been confused already in Dark Reign?

Fifth page, Emma thinks about her loving family - Emma Frost #6, nothing new.

Sixth page, Emma thinks about finding her White Queen outfit. I don't remember this scene from anywhere, so this may be NEW material. If it is, I'd suggest placement between GENX -1 and XU2 6-FB (shown in costume with Shaw). EDIT: Just checked Emma Frost 1-18, and this scene is not from that series.

EDITTED: Seventh page, concludes the flashbacks with images of dying students and emma fighting Phoenix. The second panel with Synch dying may be new, but I think I've seen it shown before. No idea where though, probably someone's memories just like this issue. Also, if the two panels from the first page of the story are new, then the first panel on page seven with Negasonic teenage warhead (thanks JD!)is a continuation of that scene and is also new. The third panel is Tarot from UX281, but not new.

Wow, didn't even realise page 8 was part of the flashback. Have to agree with JD on his choices for placements.

Hope this helps,
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Re: Emma Frost's chronology

Post by Paul Bourcier » Sun May 24, 2009 7:33 pm

Thanks for the feedback, guys. Thanks to your comments, I learned what comics I should consult.

I think that flashbacks 1:3-1:4, 7:1, and 8:4 all could fit between pages 20 and 21 of X 115.

The flashback 4:3 appears to occur sometime during the "months" after UX 131 and sometime before XFOR 87-FB.

And thanks for the placement of 6:2-6:5. Emma's pre-Hellfire Club history is only partially represented in my collection.
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Re: Emma Frost's chronology

Post by dimadick » Fri May 29, 2009 9:17 am

JD wrote:Panels 1-2 are from UX 131. I think the third one, showing Emma rebuilding herself, is new material. Her chronology shows her next in XFOR 87 : what was that about ?
According to a summary of the issue, in a flashback set "five years" before the current events, Emma tries to recruit Christopher Aaronson (King Bedlam) to her Massachusetts Academy but is turned down. The flashback has Chris as Tarot's then boyfriend.

The MCP places Emma's recruitment efforts prior to Uncanny X-Men #151. In "Uncanny X-Men" #151 (November, 1981) itself, Emma is still in recruitment drive and her next target is Kitty Pryde.

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