In Uncany #380, the Beast finds a photo of Herbert Wyndham, the future High Evolutionary, in his "early days at university". He's studying with or under Dr. Essex, a disguised Mr. Sinister.
I know the MCP doesn't normally track photos like this, but -- if we WERE to chronologize this, where would it fall in the HE's chronology?
(For that matter, where would it fall in Sinister's? I have no idea when Wyndham's university days were...)
I also welcome discussion about whether or not the infamous disguised fellow that gave Wyndham the key to cracking the human genetic code in some Annual backup story was Mr. Sinister...
-Jeph!
High Evolutionary/Sinister photo in UX #380
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Re: High Evolutionary/Sinister photo in UX #380
In X-Factor Annual #3/3, a mysterious fellow with a shiny face & fancy hat gives Wyndham the key to cracking the human genetic code, this takes place in April, 1928.
In Punisher Annual #1/3, Wyndham is still a student but is kicked out for misuse of the school's resources(and for losing his temper), this takes place in 1930.
I would say this photo was taken between the two, after the X-Factor Annual and before the Punisher Annual.
And while it's never been verified anywhere else(that I know of), this photo of Mr. Sinister & Wyndham is enough for me to say that the mysterious guy in the fancy hat in X-Factor Annual #3/3 is Mr. Sinister.
As for where it might go for Mr. Sinister:
MR. SINISTER/NATHAN ESSEX/"MIKE MILBURY"
C2 '99-FB
GAM3 13
GAM3 14
GAM3 16-FB-FB
GAM3 24-FB
C2 '99-FB
C&P2 1
C&P2 2
C&P2 3
C&P2 4 (when is this?)
C2 '99-FB (this?)
X:HC 3 (this?)
X '95-FB (and this?)
WX2 14-FB (WWII)
...
In Punisher Annual #1/3, Wyndham is still a student but is kicked out for misuse of the school's resources(and for losing his temper), this takes place in 1930.
I would say this photo was taken between the two, after the X-Factor Annual and before the Punisher Annual.
And while it's never been verified anywhere else(that I know of), this photo of Mr. Sinister & Wyndham is enough for me to say that the mysterious guy in the fancy hat in X-Factor Annual #3/3 is Mr. Sinister.
As for where it might go for Mr. Sinister:
MR. SINISTER/NATHAN ESSEX/"MIKE MILBURY"
C2 '99-FB
GAM3 13
GAM3 14
GAM3 16-FB-FB
GAM3 24-FB
C2 '99-FB
C&P2 1
C&P2 2
C&P2 3
C&P2 4 (when is this?)
C2 '99-FB (this?)
X:HC 3 (this?)
X '95-FB (and this?)
WX2 14-FB (WWII)
...
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Re: High Evolutionary/Sinister photo in UX #380
3...2...1...jephyork wrote:I also welcome discussion about whether or not the infamous disguised fellow that gave Wyndham the key to cracking the human genetic code in some Annual backup story was Mr. Sinister...
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Re: High Evolutionary/Sinister photo in UX #380
C2 '99-FB is 1899-1900.
X:HC 3 is 1915. (It's a FB, by the way.)
X '95-FB is the 1930s.
If the UX #380 photo is 1928-ish, then it looks like we've narrowed it down. Cool!
(Also, I agree with your placement of the photo in terms of the HE's chronology. In the X-Factor Annual, he's not yet officially a student -- and as you say, in the Punisher Annual, he's being kicked out of school.)
Interestingly, I note that Sinister's 1891 appearances from Gambit v3 #12-16 or thereabouts are missing...
EDIT: What school did the HE attend?
-Jeph!
X:HC 3 is 1915. (It's a FB, by the way.)
X '95-FB is the 1930s.
If the UX #380 photo is 1928-ish, then it looks like we've narrowed it down. Cool!
(Also, I agree with your placement of the photo in terms of the HE's chronology. In the X-Factor Annual, he's not yet officially a student -- and as you say, in the Punisher Annual, he's being kicked out of school.)
Interestingly, I note that Sinister's 1891 appearances from Gambit v3 #12-16 or thereabouts are missing...
EDIT: What school did the HE attend?
-Jeph!
Re: High Evolutionary/Sinister photo in UX #380
The body of C&P2 is set in 1859, with the two page Sinister-centric epilogue set at Charles Darwin's state funeral in 1882 (while it's not dated more precisely in the issue itself, a quick google identifies that as the 26th of April).Col_Fury wrote:C&P2 4 (when is this?)
Jeph, since you seemingly have the issue to hand, do you have page ranges for the C2 '99-FBs?
Re: High Evolutionary/Sinister photo in UX #380
Various recent Official Handbooks have stated that Phaeder supplied the young Wyndham with the DNA code in those High Evolutionary back-ups, though the X-Men Encyclopedia by Moreels did identify the benefactor as Sinister.
Why did the Handbook writers decide on Phaeder? Simple, the late Mark Gruenwald created Phaeder, wrote those Evolutionary War back-ups, and had taken the opportunity to establish that Phaeder had aided numerous people such as the Jackal and Magneto.
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/phaedr.htm
Notice how tall Phaeder stood, notice how tall the benefactor stood.
Why did the Handbook writers decide on Phaeder? Simple, the late Mark Gruenwald created Phaeder, wrote those Evolutionary War back-ups, and had taken the opportunity to establish that Phaeder had aided numerous people such as the Jackal and Magneto.
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/phaedr.htm
Notice how tall Phaeder stood, notice how tall the benefactor stood.
Re: High Evolutionary/Sinister photo in UX #380
He was fairly concise that time around. Enda, which specific Handbooks note that Phaeder was the one?
Somebody, pp.12-13 are set in 1899, p.24 is a flashback to Sinister's 1859 transformation, and p.36 is set in 1900.
EDIT: Wow, Mr. Sinister's early chrono is all kinds of screwed up. It should look more like this:
C&P2 1
C&P2 2
C&P2 3
C&P2 4 - 1859-1882
----
GAM3 13
GAM3 14
GAM3 16-FB-FB
GAM3 24-FB - 1891
----
C2 '99-FB - 1899
C2 '99-FB - 1900
X:HC 3 - 1915
X '95-FB - 1930s
WX2 14-FB - WWII
-Jeph!
Somebody, pp.12-13 are set in 1899, p.24 is a flashback to Sinister's 1859 transformation, and p.36 is set in 1900.
EDIT: Wow, Mr. Sinister's early chrono is all kinds of screwed up. It should look more like this:
C&P2 1
C&P2 2
C&P2 3
C&P2 4 - 1859-1882
----
GAM3 13
GAM3 14
GAM3 16-FB-FB
GAM3 24-FB - 1891
----
C2 '99-FB - 1899
C2 '99-FB - 1900
X:HC 3 - 1915
X '95-FB - 1930s
WX2 14-FB - WWII
-Jeph!
Re: High Evolutionary/Sinister photo in UX #380
I suspected as such when I saw stuff listed before C&P2, combined with your post, but wanted to be sure there was no C '99 or GAM3 stuff with the pre-Sinister Essex to be sure. You jumped ahead to my next point .jephyork wrote:EDIT: Wow, Mr. Sinister's early chrono is all kinds of screwed up.