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FB in early Hulk issues

Post by michel » Sat Oct 17, 2009 4:59 pm

I wonder why none of the flashbacks in the six first issues of the Incredible Hulk appear in the Hulk chronology. Some are mere retellings, but some add new elements and should be included.

For example, in H 2-FB (4:2-4:3), Bruce and Rick are in a room at sunset, Bruce asks Rick to leave him, Rick refuses. This scene doesn't appear in H 1, but could take place in between H 1 (14:8) and (17:7)

Another example, in H 4 (2) Betty remembers some scenes :

* Ross introduces Betty and Bruce, not seen in H 1
* Bruce is driving to get Rick, we only see him in H 1 driving away from Igor, then with Rick
* before his first changing into Hulk, Bruce asks Betty to stay out, that could be in between H 1 (4:9) and (5:1)

So why is that ? Is it because of the official indexes ?

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Re: FB in early Hulk issues

Post by Col_Fury » Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:59 am

michel wrote:I wonder why none of the flashbacks in the six first issues of the Incredible Hulk appear in the Hulk chronology.
My guess is the Hulk's chronology was put together before the MCP decided to include FBs like that, and no one has gone back yet to fill them in.
michel wrote:Is it because of the official indexes ?
I don't see why it would be. The Hulk hasn't had an Index yet, ever, as far as I know.

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Re: FB in early Hulk issues

Post by michel » Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:28 pm

Col_Fury wrote:My guess is the Hulk's chronology was put together before the MCP decided to include FBs like that, and no one has gone back yet to fill them in.
Fine, then I'll provide a full analysis next week-end. Thanks for answering me !

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Re: FB in early Hulk issues

Post by Col_Fury » Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:32 pm

michel wrote:Fine, then I'll provide a full analysis next week-end.
I'm looking forward to it!
michel wrote:Thanks for answering me !
No problem! :)
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Re: FB in early Hulk issues

Post by michel » Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:33 pm

I'm going to look into these missing Hulk FBs, but I'd like to have some precisions. I understand that for FBs re-telling a story already published in a previous comics, they must be included in the MCP if they show "a new scene". But to what extent is a scene a new one ? For example :

H 1 (3:5) : in the bunker, Bruce looks at the bomb site with his binoculars
H 1 (3:6) : through the binoculars, we see Rick driving, we hear Bruce speaking but not Rick
H 1 (3:7) : Bruce doesn't hold the binoculars, he pushes Igor to get to a car

and

H 3-FB (12:4) : Rick is driving, saying "I'll show the guys I ain't chicken ! I'll drive right up to the test area !", something he'll say again in H 1 (4:1-4:2)
H 3-FB (12:5) : Bruce lowers his binoculars after having seen Rick, his text is different

Should the H 3-FB be included ? Something like :

BRUCE
...
H 1 (3:5-3:6)
H 3-FB (12:5)
H 1 (3:7)
...

RICK
...
H 3-FB (12:4)
H 1 (3:6)

Another example, H 1 (4:2) and H 3-FB (13:1) show the same scene, Bruce holds Rick by the arm and they run, but the text is slightly different, that doesn't qualify for a new scene ?

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Re: FB in early Hulk issues

Post by michel » Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:35 pm

So here are the flashbacks from Hulk Vol.1 #1-6 + those from important issues in the origins of some characters

H 2-FB (3:3) = H 1 (4:2)
H 2-FB (3:4-3:5) = H 1 (4:4)
H 2-FB (3:6) Bruce is no more screaming and the doctor examines him, in between H 1 (4:9) and (5:1) [Bruce, Rick]
H 2-FB (3:7-4:1) = H 1 (5:2-6:3)
H 2-FB (4:2-4:3) At sunset into Bruce's house, Bruce asks Rick to leave him, he doesn't want to hurt him, Rick refuses, in between H 1 (14:8) and (17:7) [Bruce, Rick]
H 3-FB (2:1-2:6) few hours ago, Bruce lets Rick put him in the cell, in between H 2 and H 3 [Bruce, Rick]
H 3-FB (12:4-12:5) = H 1 (3:6) with Rick talking and Bruce seen
H 3-FB (13:1-13:4) = H 1 (4:2-4:5)
H 3-FB (13:5) = H 1 (5:1) with different text
H 3-FB (13:6-13:9) = H 1 (5:2-5:6)
H 3-FB (14:1) = H 1 (6:3)
H 3-FB (14:2) = H 1 (7)
H 3-FB (14:3) this panel is curious, the Hulk seems to be destroying a plane or a rocket with the emblem of the anvil and the hammer on it, but it doesn't fit anywhere, Hulk is under Gremlin's control when they fly in Russia, and then he reverts back to Banner and come back as Banner.
H 3 -FB (14:4) = H 1 (6:7-6:8)
H 3-FB (14:5) = H 2-FB (4:2)
H 3-FB (14:6) = H 3-FB (2:2-2:3) with different text or it's another time
H 4 (2-9) is a flashback in between H 4 (1) and (10)
H 4-FB-FB (2:2) Ross introduces Bruce and Betty, the day of the bomb-test. In 1962, Betty and Bruce are meant to have met this day, but this has been retconned in H2 312, they met when Bruce arrived at Desert Base, and W/H 3 says it's been years before the bomb test. So let's say this is a formal, protocolar introduction ? [Bruce, Betty, Ross]
H 4-FB-FB (2:3) Bruce is driving to get to Rick, he seems to be outside the base so it's after H@ 17-FB and before H 1 (4:1) [Bruce]
H 4-FB-FB (2:4) = H 1 (4:3)
H 4-FB-FB (2:5) Before first changing into Hulk, Bruce asks Betty to stay out, in between H 2-FB (3:6) and H 1 (5) [Bruce, Rick, Betty]
H 4-FB-FB (2:6) = H 2 (18:7)
H 4-FB-FB (2:7) = H 2 (21:3)
H 4-FB-FB (3:1-3:3) = H 2 (21:5-22:2)

Hulk/Thing : Hard Knocks #1-4 has FBs in between pages of Fantastic Four Vol.1 #5 and #12
H/T:HK 1-FB (7-9) = FF 5 (20:5-20:7) more detailed
H/T:HK 1-FB (13-14) in between FF 5 (20:8) and (21:1) Doom calls Ben a freak [Ben, Red, Johnny, Doom, Sue-BTS]
H/T:HK 2-FB (7:1-8) = FF 5 (21:4-22)
H/T:HK 2-FB (11-12) just before FF 12 (6:1), Ben makes a scene, Ross must start his speech again [Red, Sue, Ben, Johnny, Ross]
H/T:HK 2-FB (16:5-17:1) = FF 12 (9:5-9:6)
H/T:HK 2-FB (17:2) Reed asks Bruce if he suggests sabotage, Bruce agreeds, Rick and him have nicknamed him the wrecker (retold later in FF 12) [Reed, Bruce-BTS, Rick-BTS, Karl Kort-BTS, Ross-BTS, Ben-BTS, Sue-BTS, Johnny-BTS]
H/T:HK 2-FB (17:3-17:4) = FF 12 (10:1-10-2)
H/T:HK 2-FB (18:2-18:4) = H/T:HK 3-FB (5:2) = FF 12 (17:5-17:7)
H/T:HK 3-FB (5:3-9) = FF 12 (18:1-20:6)
H/T:HK 3-FB (11) = FF 12 (20:7-21:1)
H/T:HK 3-FB (12:3-12:4) = FF 12 (21:3-21:4)
H/T:HK 3-FB (13:4-13:5) = FF 12 (22:6-22:7)
H/T:HK 3-FB (16:3) = FF 12 (23:2)
H/T:HK 3-FB (16:4-16:5) in between FF 12 (23:4) and (23:5) Red and Sue notice Ben has moved away to stay alone [Red, Sue, Ross, Ben, Johnny-BTS]
H/T:HK 3-FB (17-22) the night has fallen, in between FF 12 (23:6) and (23:7) Sue tries to make Ben talk, he doesn't want to ; later, he loses control and flees, stumbles on the Hulk [Ben, Sue, Reed, Johnny, Hulk]
H/T:HK 4-FB (1-4; 6-8) Thing beats a weakened Hulk, Hulk changes back to Banner, Ben calms himself. The day after, Hulk sees the FF going away in FF 12 (23:7) [Thing, Hulk]

Flashbacks from origin's issues for Bruce :
H2 312-FB (1-3) Bruce's birth [Brian, Rebecca, Bruce]
H2 312-FB (4-5) several months later [Bruce, Brian, Rebecca, Nurse Meachum]
H2 312-FB (6-10) Bruce's fourth Christmas, Brian begins to hit Bruce and Rebecca [Bruce, Brian, Rebecca, Nurse Meachum]
H2 312-FB (11-12) at science high school, after Brian has killed Rebecca, Bruce his raised by his aunt [Bruce, Mrs. Drake]
H2 312-FB (13-14) at Rebecca's grave, anniversary of her murder, Brian out of mental hospital, Bruce's work and skill are acknowledged [Bruce, Brian]
H2 312-FB (15-17) first day at Desert Base, Bruce meets Betty and unpacks [Bruce, Betty, Ross]
H2 312-FB (18:1-18:3) T-minus sixty minutes, Bruce tells Igor the gamma formulae are locked safely in his cottage [Bruce, Igor]
H2 312-FB (18:4-18:5) continues H 1 (3:1) [Bruce, Ross, Betty]
H2 312-FB (18:6-18:7) just precedes H 1 (3:5) [Igor]
H2 312-FB (18:8) = H 1 (3:6)
H2 312-FB (19:1) = H 1 (3:7)
H2 312-FB (19:2-19:3) = H 1 (3:8)
H2 312-FB (19:4) = H 1 (4:1)
H2 312-FB (19:5) = H 1 (4:3)
H2 312-FB (19:6) = HMAG 20-FB (4:5)
H2 312-FB (19:7-21) the bomb explodes, Bruce changes into Hulk but that must be symbolic, his clothes are intact in H 1 (4:7-4:9)

In Bruce's chronology, H '97-FB (1:3-4) is a re-telling of H2 377-FB (8:2-11:2), both with Brian portrayed as a monster

H2 -1-FB (7-8) Bruce shows Ross the potential of the gamma bomb, he doesn't live in Desert Base yet, must be one of their first meetings, Brian phones Bruce [Bruce, Ross, Brian-BTS]
H2 -1-FB-FB (10:1) Brian's conviced to have killed his wife, threatens young Bruce [Bruce, Brian]
H2 -1-FB (10:2-11) after fifteen years, the mental hospital wants to release Brian [Bruce, Brian]
H2 -1-FB (14:17) Bruce takes his father home, at night, Brian stands threatening with a knife, Ross visits to check on Bruce [Bruce, Brian, Ross]
H2 -1-FB (19-21) Brian's been acting stranger and stranger (H2 312-FB (13-14) must have occur), Bruce leaves him to go to his mother's grave, Brians follows him, hits him, Bruce hits back and kills his father [Bruce, Brian]

H3 12-FB (6:1) = H2 312-FB (7:1)
H3 12-FB (6:2) Bruce works alone in his lab [Bruce]
H3 12-FB (6:3) = H 4-FB-FB (2:2)
H3 12-FB (6:4) Ross, Betty and Ryker, with protective glasses, look at the explosion [Betty, Ross, Ryker]
H3 12-FB (14:1-14:2) in med school, Bruce notices Angela Lipscombe [Bruce, Angela]
H3 12-FB (14:3) Bruce and Angela become friends [Bruce, Angela]
H3 12-FB (14:4) Bruce and Angela date [Bruce, Angela]
H3 12-FB (15:1) Bruce and Angela are an item during the school years [Bruce, Angela]
H3 12-FB (15:2) last semester, Angela wins a research grant for her work in neuro-psychiatry, Bruce sends out applications for his work on gamma particles [Bruce, Angela]
H3 12-FB (15:3-16:4) Bruce is turned down because gamma particles are just a theory, he begins to drink. A last phone call to Angela, then he flees [Bruce, Angela]
H3 12-FB (17:5-18:3) Bomb day, Bruce notices military observers, including Ryker [Bruce, Igor, Ross, Betty, Ryker]
H3 12-FB (18:4-18:5) = H 1 (3:5-3:6)
H3 12-FB (19:1) = H 4-FB-FB (2:3)
H3 12-FB (19:2) = H2 312-FB (19:6)
H3 12-FB (19:3) = H 1 (4:4)

H3 77-FB (6:2-7) In high school with Mrs. Morris [Bruce, Mrs. Morris, Ken]
H3 77-FB (9:1-9:3) in the dining hall, Ken is violent with his girlfriend Carla [Bruce, Ken, Carla]
H3 78-FB (1-2) Bruce interfere and get beaten [Bruce, Ken, Carla]
H3 78-FB (10-11;15-16) Aunt Sue sees Bruce at the hospital, then sees Principal McGuiness. She reveals Hulk is Bruce's imaginary friend. It's ten years after Rebecca's death [Bruce, Susan Banner, Principal Guiness]
H3 79-FB (4-5) Susan Banner receives a letter for Bruce from Brian at the Bellmore Psychiatric Institute [Susan Banner]
H3 79-FB (6; 13-14) a few weeks later, Bruce is out of the hospital, goes check Carla, get publicly rejected [Bruce, Carla]
H3 80-FB (1-2) continued from last FB, Bruce rejects the Hulk persona who want to use a bomb to punish the students [Bruce, Carla]
H3 80-FB (13-14) Bruce has missed school for some days, he thinks he has stayed home but the mud on his shoes tells him Hulk has acted subconsciously [Bruce, Susan Banner]
H3 81-FB (1) Bruce arrives at the school to shut the bomb down [Bruce]
H3 81-FB (8-10) Bruce shuts down the bomb, but the kids beat him for having made it. Principal Guiness let it happen [Bruce, Ken, Principal Guiness, Mrs. Morris, Carla]
H3 81-FB (17) While Bruce is at the hospital, Susan agreeds to get out of town to avoid him prison. Major Thaddeus Ross offers her to be involved in Bruce's education [Susan Banner, Ross]

Flashbacks from origin's issue for General Ross and Betty :
H2 291-FB (6:3) Thaddeus Ross toddler [Ross]
H2 291-FB (6:5-6:6) Thaddeus young boy [Ross]
H2 291-FB (7:1-7:4) Thaddeus young man, enlists, graduates at first place, dates and marries Karen Lee [Ross, Karen]
H2 291-FB (7:5-8:3) First promotions, WWII, leaves the war as major [Ross]
H2 291-FB (8:4-8:5) frustrated in peaceful times, Betty's just born when he's called for Korea War [Ross, Karen, Betty]
H2 291-FB (9) Korea War, becomes a colonel, then a general [Ross]
H2 291-FB (10:1) Betty's circa 3-4 year old [Ross, Karen, Betty]
H2 291-FB (10:2) Betty's circa 10 year old [Ross, Karen, Betty]
H2 291-FB (10:3-10:7) Betty's a young girl, Karen dies, Ross sends Betty in boarding school [Ross, Karen-BTS, Betty]

suggested chronologies :

HULK/DR. ROBERT BRUCE BANNER
H2 312-FB (1-3) Bruce's birth
*H2 312-FB (4-5) several months after Bruce's birth
H2 227-FB (6:1-6:3) plays with cubes, burns himself
*H2 312-FB (6-10) Bruce's fourth Christmas, Brian hits Bruce and Rebecca
*H3 13-FB (17:4-17:6) Bruce feels rejected, his parents often leave him alone in his room
ORDER 6-FB (1:2) Brian, drunked, hits 9 year old Bruce
M/GN 18-FB (1:3) She-Hulk GN Jen meets Bruce for the first time, still in Brian's house
*H2 377-FB (8:2-11:2) Brian kills Rebecca
*H2 403-FB (15:6-16) Brian orders Bruce to lie at his trial
*H2 403-FB (18) Bruce lies at his father's trial
*H2 -1-FB-FB (10:1) Brian's conviced to have killed his wife, threatens Bruce
A@ 13-FB (11:3) Jen visits the Banners during the summer
H2 312-FB (11-12) Bruce at science school, raised by her aunt, incident with chemicals with Mr Thayer
*H2 227-FB (7:2-7:6) high school, incident with chemicals with Mr Woodman
*H3 77-FB (6:2-7;9:1-9:3)
*H3 78-FB (1-2;10-15)
*H3 79-FB (6;13-14)
*H3 80-FB (1-2)
*H3 80-FB (13-14)
*H3 81-FB (1;8-10) the bomb incident in high school
*HMAG 26-FB (12:4) in college, with his roommate Randy Cantor
*H2 226-FB (12:3-12:6) Bruce dates Sally Moore
H2 410-FB-BTS (14:2) in college, Bruce meets Susan Jacobson
H2 410-FB-BTS (14:4) Bruce dates Susan
*H2 377-FB (15) incident with Susan
H2 410-FB-BTS (14:6) Susan apologizes but leaves Bruce
H3 12-FB (14:1-14:2) in med school, Bruce notices Angela Lipscombe
H3 12-FB (14:3) Bruce and Angela become friends
H3 12-FB (14:4) Bruce and Angela date
H3 12-FB (15:1) Bruce and Angela are an item during the school years
*H2 367-FB (6:2) moved, science school, in class with Phil Sterns
H3 12-FB (15:2) Bruce sends out applications for his work on gamma particles
H3 12-FB (15:3-16:4) Bruce is turned down, he flees and leaves Angela
A@ 13-FB (12:1) Bruce works on top-secret projects
H2 -1-FB (7-17) Bruce begins to work for Ross, his father is released from the mental hospital
H2 312-FB (13-14) Rebecca's death anniversary, Bruce work's acknowledged, Brian hits Bruce
H2 -1-FB (19-21) Bruce kills his father
*H2 312-FB (15-17) first day at Desert Base, Bruce meets Betty
*W/H 3-FB (2) Po's a baby, Bruce made godfather
*H3 12-FB (6:3) Bruce works alone in his lab
M/:LG 12 (22:2) Ross shouting at Bruce, before FF 1
M/SAGA 1 (4:5) Ross shouting at Bruce, with Betty
*W/H3-FB (4-5:3) Po's a child, takes interest in the afterlife
W/H3-FB (6-7) a few weeks before the bomb test, Po and her father disappear in their plane
*H 4-FB-FB (2:2) Ross introduces Bruce and Betty, the day of the bomb
*H3 12-FB (17:5-18:3) Bruce notices Ryker and talks to him
H3 15-FB (9:4-9:5) Bruce, Ross, Betty and Ryker in the bunker with more people around
*H2 312-FB (18:1-18:3) sixty minutes before the bomb, Bruce tells Igor the gamma formulae are in his cottage
*HMAG 20-FB (3:1-3:3) in the bunker, with a serviceman and a civilian
{H 1 (2-3:1)}
*H2 312-FB (18:4-18:5)
*H 1 (3:2-3:8)
H@ 17-FB (2:6-3:4) Bruce crashes his way out of Desert Base to go get Rick
*H 4-FB-FB (2:3)
*H 1 (4:1-4:3)
*HMAG 20-FB (4:5) Bruce is throwing Rick in the trench
*H 1 (4:4-4:9)
*H 2-FB (3:6)
*H 4-FB-FB (2:5)
*H 1 (5:1-6:5)
*H@ 17-FB (5) after having crashed the jeep, Hulk grabs a soldier but let him live
*H 1 (6:6-14)
*H 2-FB (4:2-4:3)
*H 1 (17:7-24)
H 2
AAF 16-FB
M/SH3 3/3 vs. Distorter
*H 3-FB (2:1-2:6)
H 3
H 3/2
*H 4-FB (2-9)
*H 4 (1)
*H 4 (10-14)
H 4/2
H 5
H 5/2
FF 12 (9:5-9:6)
*H/T:HK 2-FB-BTS (17:2)
*FF 12 (10:1-23:4)
H/T:HK 3-FB (21-22)
H/T:HK 4-FB (1-4;6-8)
*FF 12 (23:7)
H 6
[...]

JONES, RICHARD MILHOUSE "RICK"
H2 268-FB (8-10:3) leaves the institution for troubled teenagers
*H2 268-FB (10:4) moves from town to town, from job to job
*H2 268-FB (10:5-10:7) to impress the guys, Rick decides to drive to the bomb test zone
{H 1 (3:6)}
*H 3-FB (12:2-12:3)
*H 1 (4:1-4:3)
*HMAG 20-FB (4:5) Bruce is throwing Rick in the trench
*H 1 (4:4-4:9)
*H 2-FB (3:6)
*H 4-FB-FB (2:5)
*H 1 (5:1-6:5)
*H@ 17-BTS should be H@ 17-FB-BTS
*H 1 (6:6-14)
*H 2-FB (4:2-4:3)
*H 1 (17:7-24)
H 2
AAF 16-FB
*H 3-FB (2:1-2:6)
H 3
H 3/2
*H 4-FB (2-9)
*H 4 (1)
*H 4 (10-14)
H 4/2
H 5
H 5/2
FF 12 (9:5-9:6)
*H/T:HK 2-FB-BTS (17:2)
*FF 12 (10:1-23:4)
H 6
[...]

BANNER, BETTY ROSS TALBOT
H2 291-FB(8:4-8:5)
H2 466-FB (6:4) baby Betty with her mother
*H2 291-FB (10:1)
*H2 291-FB (10:2)
*H2 291-FB (10:3-10:7)
*H2 312-FB (15-17) meets Bruce at his first day at Desert Base
M/SAGA 1 (4:5)
*H 4-FB-FB (2:2)
*H3 12-FB (17:5-18:3) Bruce notices Ryker and talks to him
H3 15-FB
{H 1 (2:7-3:1)}
*H2 312-FB (18:4-18:5)
*H3 12-FB (6:4) Ross, Betty and Ryker, with protective glasses, look at the explosion
*H 4-FB-FB (2:5)
*H 1 (12-21:7)
H 2
*H 4 should be H 4-FB
H 5
H 6
[...]

ROSS, GEN. THADDEUS E. "THUNDERBOLT"
H2 291-FB (6:3)
*H2 291-FB (6:5-6:6)
*H2 291-FB (7:1-7:4)
*XFOR -1-FB just a photograph of Lt. Ross, should be removed
*H2 291-FB (7:5-8:3) becomes major
H3 81-FB (17) Major Ross visits Susan Banner
*H2 291-FB (8:4-8:5)
*H2 291-FB (9)
*H2 291-FB (10:1)
*H2 291-FB (10:2)
*H2 291-FB (10:3-10:7)
H2 -1-FB (7:17) Banner begins to work for Ross
*H2 312-FB (15-17) first day at Gamma Base for Bruce
M/:LG 12
M/SAGA 1 (4:5)
*H 4-FB-FB (2:2)
*H3 12-FB (17:5-18:3) Bruce notices Ryker and talks to him
H3 15-FB
{H 1 (2:4-3:1)}
*H2 312-FB (18:4-18:5)
*H3 12-FB (6:4) Ross, Betty and Ryker, with protective glasses, look at the explosion
*H 1 (19-21:7)
H 2
M/SH3 3/3
H 3
H 3/2
*H 4 should be H 4-FB
H 5
H 5/2
FF 12 (5:3-5:7)
*H/T:HK 2-FB (11-12)
*FF 12 (6-9)
*H/T:HK 2-FB-BTS (17:2)
*FF 12 (10-23:4)
*H/T:HK 3-FB (16:4)
*FF 12 (23:5-23:6)
H 6
[...]

*ROSS, KAREN LEE
H2 291-FB (7:3-7:4)
H2 466-FB (6:4) baby Betty with her mother
H2 291-FB (8:4-8:5)
H2 291-FB (10:1)
H2 291-FB (10:2)
H2 291-FB-BTS (10:3-10:7)

RYKER, GENERAL
*H3 12-FB (17:5-18:3) Bruce notices Ryker and talks to him
H3 15-FB (9:4-9:5)
*H3 12-FB (6:4) Ross, Betty and Ryker, with protective glasses, looks at the explosion
H3 18-FB (4:3-4:4) Ryker recruits guinea pigs for his experiments
H3 14
[...]

*BANNER, BRIAN
H2 312-FB (1-3) Bruce's birth
H2 312-FB (4-5) several months after Bruce's birth
H2 312-FB (6-10) Bruce's fourth Christmas
H3 13-FB (17:4-17:6) Bruce feels rejected, his parents often leave him alone in his room
ORDER 6-FB (1:2) Brian, drunked, hits 9 year old Bruce
H2 377-FB (8:2-11:2) Brian kills Rebecca
H2 -1-FB-FB (10:1) Brian's conviced to have killed his wife, threatens young Bruce
H2 -1-FB (7-17) Bruce begins to work for Ross, his father is released from the mental hospital
H2 312-FB (13-14) Rebecca's death anniversary, Brian hits Bruce
H2 -1-FB (19-21) Bruce kills his father

*BANNER, REBECCA
H2 312-FB (1-3) Bruce's birth
H2 312-FB (4-5) several months after Bruce's birth
H2 312-FB (6-10) Bruce's fourth Christmas
H3 13-FB-BTS (17:4-17:6) Bruce feels rejected, his parents often leave him alone in his room
H2 377-FB (8:2-11:2) Brian kills Rebecca

*BANNER, SUSAN DRAKE
H2 312-FB (11-12) Bruce at science school, raised by her aunt
H3 78-FB (10-11;15-16)
H3 79-FB (4-5)
H3 80-FB (13-14)
H3 81-FB (17)

MEACHUM, Nurse (à créer)
H2 312-FB (4-5) several months after Bruce's birth
H2 312-FB (6-10) Bruce's fourth Christmas

*DRENKOV, IGOR "SKLAR"
H3 12-FB (17:5-18:3) Bruce notices Ryker and talks to him
H2 312-FB (18:1-18:3) sixty minutes before the bomb
{H 1 (2:3-3:4)}
H2 312-FB (18:6-18:7)
H1 (3:5-15)

WRECKER/DR. KARL KORT
FF 12 (9:4-9:5)
*H/T:HK 2-FB-BTS (17:2)
*FF 12 (10-23:3)

THING/BENJAMIN J. GRIMM
[…]
FF 4
FF 5 (1-16)
IM2 11 (11-12)
FF 5 (17-20)
*H/T:HK 1-FB (13-14)
*FF 5 (21-23)
FF 6
[…]
ST 107
FF 12 (1-5)
*H/T:HK 2-FB (11-12)
*FF 12 (6-9)
*H/T:HK 2-FB-BTS (17:2)
*FF 12 (10-23:4)
*H/T:HK 3-FB (16:4-16:5)
*FF 12 (23:5-23:6))
H/T:HK 3-FB (17-22)
H/T:HK 4-FB (1-4;6-8)
*FF 12-BTS (23:7)
FF 13
[…]

MR. FANTASTIC/REED RICHARDS
[…]
FF 4
FF 5 (2-20)
*H/T:HK 1-FB (13-14)
*FF 5 (21-23)
FF 6
[…]
ST 107
FF 12 (4:7-5)
*H/T:HK 2-FB (11-12)
*FF 12 (6-9)
*H/T:HK 2-FB (17:2)
*FF 12 (10-23:4)
*H/T:HK 3-FB (16:4-16:5)
*FF 12 (23:5-23:6))
H/T:HK 3-FB (20:1)
*FF 12-BTS (23:7)
FF 13-FB
[…]

INVISIBLE WOMAN/SUE STORM RICHARDS
[…]
FF 4
FF 5 (2-20)
*H/T:HK 1-FB-BTS (13-14)
*FF 5 (21-23)
FF 6
[…]
ST 107
FF 12 (4:7-5)
*H/T:HK 2-FB (11-12)
*FF 12 (6-9)
*H/T:HK 2-FB-BTS (17:2)
*FF 12 (10-23:4)
*H/T:HK 3-FB (16:4-16:5)
*FF 12 (23:5-23:6))
H/T:HK 3-FB (17-20:1)
*FF 12-BTS (23:7)
FF 13
[…]

HUMAN TORCH/JOHNNY STORM
[…]
FF 5 (2-20)
*H/T:HK 1-FB (13-14)
*FF 5 (21-23)
FF 6
[…]
ST 107
FF 12 (4:7-5)
*H/T:HK 2-FB (11-12)
*FF 12 (6-9)
*H/T:HK 2-FB-BTS (17:2)
*FF 12 (10-23:4)
*H/T:HK 3-FB-BTS (16:4-16:5)
*FF 12 (23:5-23:6))
H/T:HK 3-FB (20:1)
*FF 12-BTS (23:7)
ST 108
[…]

DOCTOR DOOM/VICTOR VON DOOM
[…]
AT 2-FB
{FF 5 (1-20)}
*H/T:HK 1-FB (13-14)
*FF 5 (21-23)
H2 155-FB
[…]

LIPSCOMB, DR. ANGELA
H3 12-FB (14:1-14:2)
*H3 12-FB (14:3)
*H3 12-FB (14:4)
*H3 12-FB (15:1)
*H3 12-FB (15:2)
*H3 12-FB (15:3-16:4)
H3 12
[...]

*GUINESS, PRINCIPAL
H3 78-FB (11;15-16)
H3 81-FB (9:4-10)

*MORRIS, Mrs.
H3 77-FB (6:2-7)
H3 81-FB (8-10)

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