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X-characters after "Utopia" & "Exodus" - where?

Post by JephYork » Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:52 am

I've got a long list of supporting characters that appeared in "Utopia" and "Exodus", and I'm trying to figure out their next appearances. Now, the post-Utopia chronologies are still WAY in flux -- so in this thread, I'm not asking you to tell me where their VERY next appearance is. Instead, I'd like a list of ALL the places they've appeared since -- so, once I make a more educated guess about the order they all occur in, I can skim through and THEN divine each character's VERY next app.

So -- please tell me ANYWHERE and EVERYWHERE we've seen the following characters after the "Utopia" crossover ... thanks!

STUDENTS:
Anole
Armor
Blindfold
Bling!
Cipher (Alisa Tager, not Doug Ramsey)
Dust
Elixir
Gentle
Graymalkin
Hellion
Ink
Loa
Match
Mercury
Onyxx
Pixie
Prodigy
Rockslide
Stepford Cuckoos
Surge
Trance

NEW MUTANTS:
Brightwind
Cannonball
Karma
Magik
Magma
Dani Moonstar
Sunspot

X-CLUB:
Madison Jeffries
Dr. Nemesis
Kavita Rao
Yuriko Takiguchi

ALLIES:
Boom-Boom
Cloak
Dagger
Dazzler
Husk
Professor X
Sub-Mariner
X-23

RIOTERS:
Adam-X
Avalanche
Joanna Cargill
Erg
Glob Herman
Litterbug
Lorelei
Meld
Nekra
Rhapsody

DARK X-MEN:
Dark Beast
Mimic
Mystique
Weapon Omega

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Re: X-characters after "Utopia" & "Exodus" - where?

Post by JD » Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:00 am

Okay, I'm currently going through my collection, and I'll be updating this post accordingly. There are a few panels with mutants I can't identify that I'll submit to the group.

STUDENTS:
Anole - LIST:X, UX 517, X? @1, X 228, X 230, NATX 1, NATX 1/3, PSY 1, XVSAOA 1
Armor - LIST:X, UX 517
Blindfold - X-NECROSHA/3, XFOR3 22
Bling! - X? @1, X 228, X 229, X 230
Cipher (Alisa Tager, not Doug Ramsey)
Dust - UX 517, X? @1, X 228, X 230, XFOR3 12, XFOR3 13, XFOR3 22
Elixir - XFOR3 13, MWAR, C3 13, XFOR3 14, C3 14, XFOR3 15, C3 15, XFOR3 16, XFOR3 17, XFOR3 18, XFOR3 19, X-NECROSHA, XFOR3 21, XFOR3 22
Gentle - UX 517, X? @1, PSY 1
Graymalkin
Hellion - X? @1, X 228, X 230, XFOR3 13, XFOR3 17, XFOR3 18, XFOR3 19, XFOR3 21
Ink
Loa - X 228, X 230, XFOR3 19, XFOR3 @1/2, NATX 1, NATX 1/3, PSY 1
Match - X 228, X 230
Mercury - UX 517, X? @1, X 228, NATX 1, PSY 1
Onyxx - X? @1, X 228, X 230
Pixie - LIST:X, UX 515, UX 516, X? @1, X 230, NATX 1/3, PSY 1, XVSAOA 1, XVSAOA 2
Prodigy - X 228, NATX 1/3
Rockslide - UX 515, UX 516, UX 517, X? @1, X 228, X 230, XFOR3 22, NATX 1, NATX 1/3, PSY 1, XVSAOA 1, XVSAOA 2
Stepford Cuckoos - LIST:X, UX 517, UX 518, X? @1, X 228, X 229, X 230, XFOR3 12, XFOR3 13, XFOR3 19, XFOR3 20, XFOR3 21, XVSAOA 1, XVSAOA 2
Surge - UX 517, X? @1, X 228, X 229, XFOR3 13, XFOR3 17, XFOR3 18, XFOR3 19, XFOR3 21, NATX 1/3, PSY 1, XVSAOA 1, XVSAOA 2
Trance - X 228, X 229, X 230, XFOR3 22

NEW MUTANTS:
Brightwind - NM3 5
Cannonball - UX 515, X 228, X 230, XFOR3 22, NM3 5, NM3 6, NM3 7, NATX 1/3, NATX 1/4, XVSAOA 1
Karma - NM3 5, NM3 6, NM3 7, NATX 1/4, XVSAOA 1
Magik - LIST:X, XFOR3 20, NM3 5, NM3 6, NM3 7, NATX 1/4, XVSAOA 1
Magma - NM3 5, NM3 6, NM3 7, NATX 1/3, NATX 1/4, XVSAOA 1
Dani Moonstar - NM3 5, NM3 6, NM3 7, XVSAOA 1
Sunspot - X 230, XFOR3 22, NM3 5, NM3 6, NM3 7, NATX 1/3, NATX 1/4, XVSAOA 1, XVSAOA 2

X-CLUB:
Madison Jeffries - UX 515, UX 516, UX 517, UX 518, X? @1, X 228, X 229, X 230, XFOR3 22, NM3 5, NATX 1/3, XVSAOA 1
Dr. Nemesis - LIST:X, UX 515, UX 516, UX 518, X? @1, X 228, X 229, X 230, X-NECROSHA, XFOR3 21, XFOR3 22, NM3 5, NATX 1/3, PSY 1, XVSAOA 1
Kavita Rao - UX 515, UX 516, UX 518, X 229, X 230, NM3 5, NATX 1/3
Yuriko Takiguchi - UX 515

ALLIES:
Boom-Boom - UX 517, XFOR3 13, XFOR3 17, XFOR3 18
Cloak - XVSAOA 1, XVSAOA 2
Dagger - XVSAOA 1, XVSAOA 2
Dazzler - UX 515, UX 516, UX 517, XFOR3 21, NATX 1/3, PSY 1
Husk - XFOR3 22
Professor X - UX 515, UX 516, UX 518, NM3 6, XVSAOA 1/2-BTS, XVSAOA 2
Sub-Mariner - LIST:X, UX 515, UX 517, XFOR3 22, NATX 1/3, XVSAOA 1, XVSAOA 2
X-23 - XFOR3 12, XFOR3 13, MWAR, C3 13, XFOR3 14, C3 14, XFOR3 15, C3 15, XFOR3 16, XFOR3 17, XFOR3 18, XFOR3 19, XFOR 20, X-NECROSHA, XFOR3 21, XFOR3 @1, XFOR3 22

RIOTERS:
Adam-X - SWORD 2
Avalanche - X? @1
Joanna Cargill
Erg - LIST:X
Glob Herman
Litterbug - NATX 1/3
Lorelei
Meld
Nekra
Rhapsody

DARK X-MEN:
Dark Beast - DX 1, DX 2
Mimic - DX 1, DX 2
Mystique - DX 1, DX 2, MSM2 48
Weapon Omega - DX 1, DX 2

Key :
DX - Dark X-Men
LIST:X - Dark Reign: The List: X-Men
X? @1 - X-Men Legacy Annual #1 (this is the third "Annual #1" for X-Men v2, I have no clue how to key it)
MWAR - X-Force/Cable: Messiah War
NATX - Nation X
PSY - Psylocke
XVSAOA - X-Men vs. Agents of Atlas

(Fully analysed for now : LIST:X, UX 515-518, X? @1, X 228-230, C3 13-15, XFOR3 12-22, XFOR3 @1, MWAR, X-NECROSHA, NM3 5-7, NATX 1, PSY 1-2, DX 1-2, SWORD 1-2, XVSAOA 1-2)
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Re: X-characters after "Utopia" & "Exodus" - where?

Post by Paul Bourcier » Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:07 am

- Anyone you recognize besides Erg and Anole ? (LIST: X)
Hepzibah

- I see Cannonball, Rao, Jeffries, Dazzler, Nemesis, Rockslide, Pixie and Xavier. Who else is on the list ? (UX 515)
Psylocke, Angel, Beast, Storm, Northstar, Colossus, Wolverine, Armor?

- Any recognizable figures in the background ? (X? @1)
Cuckoos, Onyxx, Anole, Surge, Colossus, Pixie, Mercury

- Same question. (X? @1)
Dust at left?

- Who's that girl to the left of Anole ? And is that Prodigy to Rogue's left ? (X 228)
Loa, and probably

- Who are those girls next to Anole ? Anyone recognizable in the background ? (UX 230)
Armor (or maybe Karma)?, Loa, and Dust; Rockslide, Match, Subspot?, Cannonball, Indra?
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Re: X-characters after "Utopia" & "Exodus" - where?

Post by JD » Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:49 am

Jeph's list is a bit arbitrary : it doesn't list any of the "core" X-Men team (Cyclops, Emma Frost, Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Colossus, Iceman, Beast, Psylocke, Northstar, Archangel), the "Legacy" group (Rogue, Gambit, Danger) or most of the X-Force team (Domino, Warpath, Vanisher, Wolfsbane), but it somehow includes Dazzler (who's a core X-Men member these days) and X-23 (a core X-Force member).

Hepzibah's absence from Jeph's list is a bit puzzling, though. (For reference, I haven't seen here anywhere else than LIST:X so far.)

(I assume the casts of X-Factor and Cable are absent as they're pretty much disconnected from everything else, and didn't participate into Utopia.)

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Re: X-characters after "Utopia" & "Exodus" - where?

Post by JephYork » Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:11 pm

My list isn't "arbitrary" -- it's the list of characters that I need help with for the "Exodus" index entry. Anyone I didn't mention, I already have covered. ;-)

Thanks for all this info! Keep it coming!

By the way, why is "X?" your abbreviation for "X-Men: Legacy"?

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Post by Somebody » Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:47 pm

X-Men/Agents of Atlas #1:

(several unidentifiably silouetted-in-purple people)
??? (Someone brown-haired in a NM costume)
??? (Someone in the bg who appears to be wearing a cowled NM costume. It's not Sunspot, he's in the foreground)
Angel
Anole
Beast
Cannonball
Cloak
Colossus
Cyclops
Dagger
Dr Nemesis
Frost
Hellion? (background white guy with black hair in NXM costume driving bulldozer)
Iceman
Karma
Madison Jeffries
Magma and Magik? (background blonde female in NM costume and foreground blonde female in short-sleeved NM costume, neither of whom has arm armour; but they're the only two blonde NM females)
Namor
Nightcrawler
Pixie
Prodigy? (background black guy on (4&5:1) wearing black & yellow)
Psylocke
Rockslide
Stepford Cuckoos
Storm
Sunspot
Surge
Wolverine

X-Men/Agents of Atlas #2

Angel
Beast
Cloak
Colossus
Cyclops
Dagger
Frost
Iceman
Namor
Nightcrawler
Pixie
Professor Xavier
Psylocke
Rockslide
Stepford Cuckoos
Storm
Sunspot
Surge
Wolverine


Oh, and an interesting little-cock-up: Angel's drawn in Mimic's current costume at the end of the hallucination/fight, once everyone else looks how they do in reality. Obviously, Samnee got a bad reference, but still.
jephyork wrote:By the way, why is "X?" your abbreviation for "X-Men: Legacy"?
Because he doesn't know how to code the Annual, he said.

I suppose it'll be either X@3 1 or XL@ 1.
Looks like X-23 is the black-haired female in the foreground, wearing her NXM costume top. Is that possibly Greymalkin between her and Erg?

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Re: X-characters after "Utopia" & "Exodus" - where?

Post by JD » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:10 pm

Somebody wrote:Magma and Magik? (background blonde female in NM costume and foreground blonde female in short-sleeved NM costume, neither of whom has arm armour; but they're the only two blonde NM females)
Magma's current NM uniform is sleeveless, for some reason (more distinctive design ?). And Magik doesn't wear arm armour these days.

(I've updated my draft with NM3 appearances. Next : Nation X #1 !)
Somebody wrote:Hellion? (background white guy with black hair in NXM costume driving bulldozer)
Isn't that Colossus ? He's doing the same kind of thing in Nation X #1/4.
Somebody wrote:Prodigy? (background black guy on (4&5:1) wearing black & yellow)
Wrong costume, and doesn't look that black to me. Considering this is a NM costume, I'd say Dani Moonstar.
Somebody wrote:Oh, and an interesting little-cock-up: Angel's drawn in Mimic's current costume at the end of the hallucination/fight, one everyone else looks how they do in reality. Obviously, Samnee got a bad reference, but still.
While we're on the subject of art goofs, Daniel Acuña drew Cannonball in his Bachalo costume instead of his current NM one in X 228.

... And I'm now done for the X-books (regular titles and in-continuity miniseries). Anyone has any clue for guest appearances in other MU titles ? I presume Namor is all over the place...

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Post by Somebody » Sun Dec 20, 2009 2:53 pm

Paul Bourcier wrote:
Psylocke, Angel, Beast, Storm, Northstar, Colossus, Wolverine, Armor?
Neither of you noticed Namor in the top-left? And did you mean Armor is the one between Nemesis & Rockslide, or beside Pixie? The latter could conceivably be X-23 in NX costuming, given some slightly weird lighting (I can't think of any purple-haired human-type students, anyway).
Looking at it again, two of those figures on the left look a lot like Cannonball & Wolfsbane. Obviously, it can't be Rahne, but might the blonde to the left of her be Magma if they're intended to be New Mutants?
Loa, Armor and Dust, I would say.

I have Match, Greymalkin?, Cannonball, Hellion?, Rockslide and Indra in the background.
JD wrote:
Somebody wrote:Hellion? (background white guy with black hair in NXM costume driving bulldozer)
Isn't that Colossus ? He's doing the same kind of thing in Nation X #1/4.
I can't see any red on the costume though, nor any detail that really resembles a big black V.
JD wrote:
Somebody wrote:Prodigy? (background black guy on (4&5:1) wearing black & yellow)
Wrong costume, and doesn't look that black to me. Considering this is a NM costume, I'd say Dani Moonstar.
I have Moonstar elsewhere on that spread (immediately to the left of Rockslide).

And one I missed in X/ATLAS 2 - who's the doctor with Xavier? I don't think it's Dr. Nemesis, since he's wearing a labcoat, not a white suit.

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Post by Paul Bourcier » Sun Dec 20, 2009 4:02 pm

Who's that woman next to Iceman ?


Judging from Scott's dialog in the next panel, I think that's supposed to be Dazzler.
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Post by Somebody » Sun Dec 20, 2009 4:49 pm

Glob Herman seems closest (although I don't think he's been shown in a containment suit before). Why he'd be at a core meeting is a good question.

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Post by JephYork » Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:02 pm

It's supposed to be Dr. Nemesis. The artist missed the "Dr." part, did research on what "Nemesis" looked like, and came up with Holocaust from the Age of Apocalypse.
Somebody wrote:
Paul Bourcier wrote:
Psylocke, Angel, Beast, Storm, Northstar, Colossus, Wolverine, Armor?
Neither of you noticed Namor in the top-left? And did you mean Armor is the one between Nemesis & Rockslide, or beside Pixie? The latter could conceivably be X-23 in NX costuming, given some slightly weird lighting (I can't think of any purple-haired human-type students, anyway).
The one between Dr. Nemesis and Rockslide is Karma. Headband + "X" on shoulders was the costume Karma was wearing circa UXM #502 ... I don't know if she changed it in the NM3 series, but that's definitely intended to be her.

The posture on the one near Pixie doesn't say X-23 to me ... and the hair seems too short. I'd go with Armor, who was Pixie's roommate back in Greymalkin.

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Post by Paul Bourcier » Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:33 pm

Jeph wrote:
It's supposed to be Dr. Nemesis. The artist missed the "Dr." part, did research on what "Nemesis" looked like, and came up with Holocaust from the Age of Apocalypse.
Okay, that's really weird, since Dr. Nemesis appears correctly later in that same story.
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Re: X-characters after "Utopia" & "Exodus" - where?

Post by JD » Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:21 am

Paul Bourcier wrote:
Who's that woman next to Iceman ? (XFOR3 22)

Judging from Scott's dialog in the next panel, I think that's supposed to be Dazzler.
With red hair ? Calling Iceman "Frosty" ? Also considering that she appears in her proper costume in XFOR3 21, by the same artist ?

Random idea : maybe this is Bliss, that Morlock who got Jean Grey's appearance way back in UX 260-ish ? NATION X #1/3 establishes that she's still around.

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Post by Paul Bourcier » Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:30 am

JD wrote:
With red hair ? Calling Iceman "Frosty" ? Also considering that she appears in her proper costume in XFOR3 21, by the same artist ?
Hey, given that whole Dr. Nemesis thing, I wouldn't assume artists/colorers getting the details right. :wink: Seriously, though, this practice of less-than-definitive artistic renderings combined with appearances by tons of characters, numerous costume changes, and minimal editorial explanations of who's who is becoming a pet peeve of mine.
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