Code of Honor #3

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Code of Honor #3

Post by Paul Bourcier » Wed May 05, 2010 10:40 pm

Here is my proposal for modifying character chronologies based on Code of Honor #3, which has to date not had a complete profile in the MCP. I added page ranges since COH 3 takes place over a span of time. "Check" means the chronology is consistent with what's in the MCP. I didn't include the main characters in COH (Jeff Piper, etc.), who do not have entries yet.

ANGEL III (check)
...
UX 144
COH 3
S-W 37
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BEAST (check)
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DEF 131
COH 3 (23-31)
PM&IF 110
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BLACK WIDOW II (check)
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M/TU 141
COH 3 (23-31)
M/TU 141
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CAGE, LUKE (check)
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IM 177
COH 3 (23-31)
DD 207
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CAPTAIN AMERICA (check)
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A 243
COH 3 (40-44)
A 244
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CAPTAIN MARVEL II
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A 243 (15:3-16:6)
COH 3 (38:3-39)
A 243 (17-21)
*COH 3 (40-44)
H2 300
...

DAREDEVIL (check)
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M/TU 141
COH 3 (23-31)
M/TU 141
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DOC SAMSON (check)
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M/TIO@ 7
COH 3 (32-38:2)
A 252
...

FALCON II
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FAL 4
*CA 290 [move to here; Falcon appears in the second part of this issue, not the first]
COH 3 (23-31)
A 243-BTS
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HAWKEYE (check)
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A 243
COH 3 (40-44)
A 244
...

HUMAN TORCH II (check)
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A 243-BTS
COH 3 (38:3-39)
FF 265
...
FF 268
COH 3 (40-44)
H2 300
...

INVISIBLE WOMAN (check)
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FF 265-FB
COH 3 (23-31)
M/SHSW 9
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IRON FIST (check)
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IM 177
COH 3 (23-31)
DD 207
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IRON MAN IV (check)
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FF 265
COH 3 (38:3-39)
IM 182
COH 3 (40-44)
IM 183
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MR. FANTASTIC (check)
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FF 268
COH 3 (40-44)
A@ 13
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ROGUE (check)
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UX 182
COH 3 (40-44)
UX 183
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SHE-HULK (check)
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FF 268
COH 3 (40-44)
A@ 13
...

THOR
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T 308 (1-11:5)
*COH 3 (1-4)
T 308 (11:6-15:6)
*COH 3 (5-8)
T 308 (16-23)
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A 243 (15:3-16:6)
COH 3 (38:3-39)
A 243 (17-21)
COH 3 (40-44)
T 341
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VENGEANCE (check)
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COH 2
COH 3
COH 4
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WASP (check)
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A 243
COH 3 (40-44)
H2 300
...

WONDER MAN (check)
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A 239
COH 3 (23-31)
A 243-BTS
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ABOMINATION
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H2 290
*COH 3 (32-38:2)
H@ 15-FB
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APE-MAN II
DD 157
DD 158
*COH 3 (22)

BATROC
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CA 252
*COH 3 (23-31)
CA 302
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BROTHERS GRIMM (or II?)
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S-W 12
*COH 3 (23-31)
IM 187
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CAT-MAN II (noted as III in MCP?)
DD 157
DD 158
*COH 3 (22)
...

CLOAK
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M/TU@ 6
*COH 3 (19)
PPSSM 94
...

COBRA
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PPSSM 88
*COH 3 (23-31)
CA 309
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COTTONMOUTH II
*COH 3 (23-31)
CA 310
...

DAGGER
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M/TU@ 6
*COH 3 (19)
PPSSM 94
...

ELECTRO II
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FAL 4
*COH 3 (23-31)
PM&IF 113
(Note: He also appears in AF 63-BTS at some point after this and before M/CP 97/4, but I’m not sure when exactly.)
...

FROG-MAN III (can’t be either of the Patilios; some one-shot Frog-Man?)
*COH 3 (22)

GUARDSMAN II (O’BRIEN, MICHAEL)
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A 237
*COH 3 (23-31)
PM&IF 113
...

HOBGOBLIN II
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ASM 251
*SM:HL 3-FB
*COH 3 (23-31)
ASM 255
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JUGGERNAUT
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ASM 230
*ASM 629-FB (8:1-8:5)
*COH 3 (23-31)
UX 183
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KILLER SHRIKE
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PPTSS 57
*S-W 50
*COH 3 (23-31)
PPTSS 102
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LIVING LASER
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IM 153
*COH 3 (23-31)
SWII 7
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MOON KNIGHT
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M/FAN 39/2
*COH 3 (23-31)
M/TU 144
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MOONSTONE II
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DAZZ 32
*COH 3 (23-31)
A 270
...

PLANTMAN
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A 232
*A 233-BTS
*COH 3 (23-31)
SOLOA 19
...

PORCUPINE
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CA 285
*COH 3 (23-31)
CA 315
...

PUNISHER II
Appears in COH 3 (16:2-18:5), which is identical to ASM@ 15 (25:4-25)

RHINO
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A 237
*COH 3 (23-31)
TG 24
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RINGER
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PPSSM 58
*COH 3 (23-31)
CA 319
...

SCORPION
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A 222
*COH 3 (23-31)
ASM@ 18
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SHOCKER
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A 229
*COH 3 (23-31)
WOSM 10
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SLYDE
ASM 272-FB
*COH 3 (22)
ASM 272
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STILT-MAN
...
ASM 237
*COH 3 (23-31)
IM 225
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TIGER SHARK
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A 230
*COH 3 (23-31)
A 273
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UNICORN II (not the original who died in IM 154 nor the one from SSS, who is called UNICORN II in the MCP)
*COH 3 (23-31)

WHIRLWIND
...
A 222
*COH 3 (23-31)
PM&IF 106
...
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Re: Code of Honor #3

Post by Michael » Thu May 06, 2010 7:46 am

Code of Honor 3 is extremely problematic- many of the appearances are impossible.
Paul Bourcier wrote:ABOMINATION
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H2 290
*COH 3 (32-38:2)
H@ 15-FB
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Unfortunately, Abomination had his atoms blown apart by Modok at the time but let's assume it's the real Abomination.
Paul Bourcier wrote:
APE-MAN II
DD 157
DD 158
*COH 3 (22)
Unfortunately, Ape-Man was killed by Death-Stalker in DD 158, so this has to be a third Ape-Man.

Paul Bourcier wrote: BROTHERS GRIMM (or II?)
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S-W 12
*COH 3 (23-31)
IM 187
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This is problematic- it couldn't have been the Grimes brothers since IM 187-188 make it clear that they just found out about the costumes shortly before they first encountered Rhodey, and Dolly's spirit seemingly disintegrated in Spider-Woman 12. One of the Handbooks claims that it was the Grimes brothers but they have to basically ignore much of IM 187-188 to do so.
Paul Bourcier wrote: CAT-MAN II (noted as III in MCP?)
DD 157
DD 158
*COH 3 (22)
...
Cat-Man, like Ape-Man, was also killed in DD 158. It had to be a different Cat-Man.
Paul Bourcier wrote:STILT-MAN
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DD 186
*COH 3 (23-31)
ASM 237
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ASM 237 is long before Secret Wars, so Stilt-Man's appearance would have to take place after ASM 237 and before IM 225.

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Re: Code of Honor #3

Post by Paul Bourcier » Thu May 06, 2010 5:55 pm

Michael wrote:
ASM 237 is long before Secret Wars, so Stilt-Man's appearance would have to take place after ASM 237 and before IM 225.
You're absolutely right, Michael. I was off by one slot on the chronology. I'll update the post. Thanks for catching that!
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Re: Code of Honor #3

Post by Enda80 » Thu May 06, 2010 7:16 pm

Per Incredible Hulk Annual#15, Mephisto briefly restored the Abomination in time for him to appear in Secret Wars II#7. Mephisto recruited a few outlaws to join the Legion Accursed, recruiting them to destroy the Beyonder (the terms of the pacts did not entail indefinite slavery to Mephisto-the Juggernaut asked that Mephisto restore Cassidy Keep to the control of Black Tom Cassidy, Baron Mordo asked for aid in conquering the Dark Dimension for Umar, etc.). The Thing defeated the prospective assassins, though.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/bitterhorn.htm

Tyrannus, who had turned into an energy entity due to exposure to Deviant technology per Incredible Hulk vol. 2 #243 and entered the periphery of Terra's atmosphere, sensed that the Abomination's atoms had also floated to the periphery of Terra's atmosphere, intended to use the Abomination's atoms to reincorporate himself, saw the Abomination's atoms in space but to his horror saw them disappear due to Mephisto. Mephisto restored the Abomination to an atomized state after Secret Wars II#7, though, Tyrannus saw the Abomination's atoms pop back into place, and Tyrannus did in fact reincorporate himself as the Abomination.

As Mephisto went to the trouble to re-disintegrate the Abomination, I get a sense that he did not reintegrate Mephisto until he saw the dire need to do so. However, we can justify the Abomination's appearance here as Mephisto's doing, I suppose. Why Mephisto did not think of making a long-term deal with the Abomination (and/or Tyrannus, for that matter) to restore them to normal, his oversight, his loss.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/legionaccursed.htm

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