SHIELD & Hydra agents' next and last apps in 1991-93?

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Re: SHIELD & Hydra agents' next and last apps in 1991-93?

Post by JephYork » Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:30 pm

Nothing, huh? Okay, how about this one: SHIELD agents appear in W '95/2. I need a next and last app for them...

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Re: SHIELD & Hydra agents' next and last apps in 1991-93?

Post by JephYork » Mon Aug 29, 2011 9:46 pm

This board's activity has really died lately. :( I know I'm asking a bunch of difficult, detail-y questions, but that's supposed to be everyone's favorite thing around here!

Let's try this again: for "Scorpio Rising," I need to know the chr last and chr next apps for SHIELD and Hydra agents. Nick Fury's chronology for that period is below, written out to 12-13 books in each direction.

Could somebody who has a lot of these please read through the list, going backward from Cap #420 and forward from X #25, until they spot the last and next appearances of generic, unnamed SHIELD and/or Hydra agents?

SSWP 17
IC 6
STARBLAST 1
M/CP 127
M/CP 130
XFOR 20
XFOR 21
XFOR 22
C2 4-BTS
SUPSOL 6
SUPSOL 7
CA 420
W/NF:SR
X 25
A 368
X 26
A 369
M/CP 152/2-FB-VO
NOM2 20
XFOR 27
DD 321
DD 322
DD@ 10/2
DD@ 10
SSWP 24
SSWP 25
DD 326

Also, although this issue was set before X #25, it was published in October 1994. I'm trying to locate SHIELD agents' *actual* (not chronological) next appearance after this issue came out. Did any agents appear in the following issues?

NT2 16-BTS
SSWP 30
XF 108
NO2 11
NO2 12
NT2 17
NT2 18-FB
NO2 13
NO2 16


Okay, next puzzler:

Wolverine appears in GR3 #61, X:Prime, UX #322, W2 #91, W '95, W '95/2, W2 #92, W/Gambit #1-4, then H2 #434 for Nick Fury's "funeral."

Nick Fury (and/or his ill-fated LMD) appears in GR3 #61-62, 64 & 65 (pp.1-6), PUN2 #104, PWJ #80, DE:Alpha, DD #344, GR3 #65 (pp.7-22), H2 #433, DRSTR3 #81, DE:Omega, then bts in H2 #434, being buried.

SHIELD agents appear in W '95/2 (but Nick doesn't). I need to know their next and last apps. Where would W '95/2 occur in Nick's chronology, if he WERE there? Then, working backwards and forwards from that point, where do other SHIELD agents last and next appear?


Thanks, guys. I know it's a pain in the kiester, but you're helping make the Index that much better with every fact you check and every piece of info you help me dig up. And I appreciate it. :)

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Re: SHIELD & Hydra agents' next and last apps in 1991-93?

Post by Russ Chappell » Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:55 pm

Nameless SHIELD agents are in Cap 420.

Nameless Hydra & SHIELD agents are in SUPSOL 7.

Nameless pilots of jets taking off from the helicarrier are in A 368.

Nameless SHIELD agents are in X 26.

I do not have DD@ 10 easily at hand to check, so caveat. SSWP 24 appears to have Hydra agents, but they are actually Genesis Coalition agents in disguise. Unnamed Hydra agents appear in SSWP 26.

One SHIELD agent appears in NT2 16.

Multiple SHIELD agents appear in NO2 11.

Hope that's what you're looking for.

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Re: SHIELD & Hydra agents' next and last apps in 1991-93?

Post by JephYork » Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:32 am

Thanks! That answers my first question. However, as a follow-up, I also need to know the first time that Hydra agents appear in the following issues:

NT2 16-BTS
SSWP 30
XF 108
NO2 11
NO2 12
NT2 17
NT2 18-FB
NO2 13
NO2 16

Also, my second question, about W '95/2, is still open. Daron, you're the Fury expert around these parts -- want to take a whack at this one?

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Re: SHIELD & Hydra agents' next and last apps in 1991-93?

Post by Col_Fury » Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:52 am

I would say W '95/2 takes place between GR3 #65 (pp.1-6) and PUN2 #104.

Give me a bit to dig through some comics and see if I can find any SHIELD agents. Or Hydra agents for the other list.
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Re: SHIELD & Hydra agents' next and last apps in 1991-93?

Post by Col_Fury » Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:28 am

I haven't forgotten about this, I swear! I hope to get to this sometime Friday evening. However, I don't have some of these comics to check. If someone could check these:

PUN2 #104, PWJ #80 & DRSTR3 #81

for SHIELD agents, and these:

NT2 16-BTS
SSWP 30
NT2 18-FB

for Hydra agents, that would be awesome. Thanks!
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Re: SHIELD & Hydra agents' next and last apps in 1991-93?

Post by Paul Bourcier » Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:34 am

SHIELD agents appear in both PUN2 104 and DRSTR3 81. Someone still needs to check PWJ 80.

No trace of Hydra agents in any of the three comics you listed, Fury.
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Re: SHIELD & Hydra agents' next and last apps in 1991-93?

Post by Russ Chappell » Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:54 am

Two unnamed SHIELD agents appear in PWJ 80, plus at least one more voice only. The helicarrier appears, so presumably many bts.

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Re: SHIELD & Hydra agents' next and last apps in 1991-93?

Post by Col_Fury » Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:43 pm

SHIELD agents appear in both GR3 65 (1-6) and PUN2 104, so we're good there.

No sign of Hydra in any of these:

NT2 16-BTS
SSWP 30
XF 108
NO2 11
NO2 12
NT2 17
NT2 18-FB
NO2 13
NO2 16

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Re: SHIELD & Hydra agents' next and last apps in 1991-93?

Post by JephYork » Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:16 pm

Thanks for all the help on this. Still need to find the next time Hydra agents appeared after October 1994, though -- and the next round of PDF edits are due to Marvel tomorrow at 9 am, so this is a bit of a priority for me at the moment. :(

Here's the rest of Nick Fury's chronology, from where we just left off (NO2 16) to his "death" in DE:O. Running down this list, what's the first time that Hydra agents appear?

TOS2
ST3
E:ROE 1
H2 426
FW 10/2
F/BW:DD
FF 400/2
WARM 14
WARM 15-FB
WARM 15
WARM 17
A 385
FOS 1
FOS 2 (1 - 5)
CA 440
FOS 2 (6 - 22)
FOS 3
FOS 4
GR3 57
GR3 58
GR3 60
GR3 61
GR3 62
GR3 64
GR3 65 (1 - 6)
PUN2 104
PWJ 80
DE:A
DD 344
GR3 65 (7 - 22)
H2 433
DRSTR3 81
DE:O

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Re: SHIELD & Hydra agents' next and last apps in 1991-93?

Post by Russ Chappell » Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:00 pm

The semi-hurricane going through town right now has pretty much cut off my access to my comics. I got through FF 400 in your list before having to hunker down. Hydra does not appear in any of the books I've checked.

Many of the other books on your list, (Avengers, Captain America, War Machine, Ghost Rider & Punisher) should have index entries that you can check.

The further you get into the list, the less likely you are to find Hydra, since the later stories are part of one plotline about Fury's death. good luck.

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Re: SHIELD & Hydra agents' next and last apps in 1991-93?

Post by Col_Fury » Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:32 pm

The head of "Hydra International" appears in FOS 2-3, and his agents (like, 5 of them, two or three of which get names) appear in FOS 1-2. The nameless agents wear armor and not the standard Hydra suit, but they are agents and they work for Hydra.

No Hydra agents in any of the other comics you listed.
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Re: SHIELD & Hydra agents' next and last apps in 1991-93?

Post by JephYork » Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:55 pm

Well that's it then, it's FOS #1. Thanks, Daron!

And Russ -- stay safe!!!

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