Iron Age 2

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Iron Age 2

Post by Leoparis » Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:34 am

Power Man Iron Fist:
Indications:
Iron Man had a rampage on Times Square before this story
He's replaced by Rhodes
Power Man Iron Fist Misty Knight Colleen Wing and jenny Royce appear as well as Tinkerer and Scorpion


Human Torch:
Indications
Dr. Doom says he's impoverished due to his former ally Darkoth
Iron Man has the armor with a nose
The Human Torch has his red costume
He says Reed and Sue just just patched things up after a bad separation
So this is circa 1974-1975

The Tony Stark from this time period also appears

(the artist drew a person in a Spider-Woman costume at a party, that's slightly anachronistic since she didn't exist yet)
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Re: Iron Age 2

Post by Michael » Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:45 pm

Leoparis wrote:Power Man Iron Fist:
Indications:
Iron Man had a rampage on Times Square before this story
He's replaced by Rhodes
Power Man Iron Fist Misty Knight Colleen Wing and jenny Royce appear as well as Tinkerer and Scorpion
The rampage in Times Square was in IM 169. Since Stane International appears on a display in Times Square, this would be sometime after IM 173.

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Re: Iron Age 2

Post by Enda80 » Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:10 am

Alright, to explain this, someone asked regarding the Iron Age 2 about a break-up between Sue and Reed.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119349/quotes

In issue 141 of the Fantastic Four, published in November, 1973, Reed Richards had to use his anti-matter weapon on his own son, who Annihilus has turn into the Human Atom Bomb. I think this refers to that.

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Re: Iron Age 2

Post by JephYork » Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:55 am

Your point would be clearer if, instead of posting links to quotes from a movie, you connected the dots by saying "Mr. Fantastic's actions caused a temporary breakup between him and his wife."

I know, I'm talking crazy, huh? :willynilly:

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Iron Age 3

Post by Leoparis » Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:51 am

First Story
Dazzler appears here just after Uncanny X-Men #130 (1979) per note
Iron Man (from the present)
Sebastian Shaw
Donald Pierce

Second story (follows directly from the first, same time period) The X-Men's presence inside the Hellfire Club is concurrent with the Dark Phoenix saga
Iron Man
Sebastian Shaw
Wolverine (appears here after fighting with Leland)
Colossus
Nightcrawler
Jean Grey (as Black Queen)
Cyclops
Storm

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Re: Iron Age 2

Post by Paul Bourcier » Fri Aug 26, 2011 6:57 am

In Iron Man: Omega, the past versions of Cage, Iron Fist, Dazzler, Cyclops, and Captain Britain all appear moments after their previous appearances in Iron Age. They are transported to the present to fight Birch and are transported back to the moment from which they were taken.

Iron Man: Omega also features a flashback scene that occurs at a point in the past long after the time-traveling Stark of the present started to work on a time-travel device. He goes to Henry Pym for help. Pym at this time has his Yellowjacket identity. This appearance by Pym will need to be placed.

Any thoughts now about chronology listings for all the characters of the past who are shown in these Iron Age comics?
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Re: Iron Age 2

Post by Paul Bourcier » Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:51 am

Here's my assessment of Iron Age #3 and the past Dazzler's appearance in Iron Age Omega #1:

IRON AGE #3 (1-22)
(one night; Iron Man appears here from the future; green trees in Manhattan; must be fourth week of September)
Dazzler II, Black King, White Bishop

IRON AGE OMEGA #1
(same night as IA 3 (1-22); the future Iron Man returns and transports Dazzler to the future before depositing her back to this point in time; must be fourth week of September)
Dazzler II

UNCANNY X-MEN #132 (end)
(same night as IA 3 (1-22); about a week after UX 132 beg; according to OMITTXM 3, this segment occurs after UX 133 FB; this segment must occur after Alias 26-FB (6-12) and IA:A 1 (19-22); fourth week of September)
Professor X, Cyclops II, Storm, Colossus III, Nightcrawler, Wolverine, Phoenix II, Hugh Hefner, Mastermind (as Jason Wyngarde), Black King, White Bishop, Black Bishop, Sage (as Tessa), [Archangel (as Angel III)]

UNCANNY X-MEN #133
(same night as UX 132 end and into next morning; according to OMITTXM 3, this story occurs after CXM 36 2nd; fourth week of September)
Professor X, Cyclops II, Storm, Colossus III, Nightcrawler, Wolverine, Phoenix II (as Black Queen), Archangel (as Angel III), Banshee (as Sean Cassidy), Moira MacTaggert, Robert Kelly, Rosen, Lou II, Mary, Wade Cole, Angelo Macon, Murray Reese, Mastermind (as Jason Wyngarde), Black King, White Bishop, Black Bishop

UNCANNY X-MEN #134 (1-12:2)
(same day as UX 133 end; after IM 125; reference to “mid-winter” is topical; fourth week of September)
Cyclops II, Storm, Colossus III, Nightcrawler, Wolverine, Phoenix II (as Black Queen), Beast, Robert Kelly, Mastermind, Black King, White Bishop, Black Bishop

IRON AGE #3 (23-35)
(same day as UX 134 (1-12); Iron Man appears here from the future; must be fourth week of September)
Wolverine, Colossus III, Nightcrawler, Black King

UNCANNY X-MEN #134 (12:3-14:5)
(same day as IA 3 (23-35); fourth week of September)
Phoenix II (as Black Queen), Mastermind

IRON AGE #3 (36-37)
(same day as UX 134 (12-14); Iron Man appears here from the future; must be fourth week of September)
Cyclops II, Phoenix II (as Black Queen)

UNCANNY X-MEN #134 (15:1-15:2)
(same day as IA 3 (36-37); Iron Man appears bts here from the future; fourth week of September)
Cyclops II, Phoenix II (as Black Queen)

IRON AGE #3 (38:4-44:4)
(same day as UX 134 (15:1-15:2); Iron Man appears from the future; must be fourth week of September)
Cyclops II, Storm, Colossus III, Nightcrawler, Wolverine, Phoenix II (as Black Queen), Black King

UNCANNY X-MEN #134 (15:3-16:5)
(same day as IA 3 (38-44); fourth week of September)
Cyclops II, Storm, Colossus III, Nightcrawler, Wolverine, Phoenix II (as Black Queen)

CODE OF HONOR #2 (25:1-27:1)
(same day as UX 134 (15-16); fourth week of September)
Jeff Piper, Archie Bivens, Robert Kelly, Mastermind (as Jason Wyngarde), Black King (as Sebastian Shaw)

UNCANNY X-MEN #134 (16:6-17:2)
(same day as COH 2 (25-27); fourth week of September)
Cyclops II, Storm, Colossus III, Nightcrawler, Wolverine, Phoenix II (as Dark Phoenix)

CODE OF HONOR #2 (27:2-27:4)
(same day as UX 134 (16-17); fourth week of September)
Jeff Piper, Archie Bivens, [Cyclops II], [Storm], [Colossus III], [Nightcrawler], [Wolverine], [Phoenix II (as Dark Phoenix)]


Can someone come up with detailed placements of scenes from Iron Age #2 and the placement of Hank Pym of the past in Iron Age Omega #1?
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Re: Iron Age 2

Post by Paul Bourcier » Sun Aug 28, 2011 2:53 pm

Okay, I went out and purchased Iron Age #2. Here's my placement for the first story, featuring Power Man and Iron Fist.

We see the liquor signs in Times Square are still wrecked after a drunken Iron Man destroyed them in IM 169, and Cage is still pissed about that. Iron Fist says that it's no secret that Obadiah Stane has had Stark's personal assets frozen, so this story must occur after Stane took over Stark's company in IM 172-173, a month after IM 169. (Why won't they fix those signs?)

Vision and Scarlet Witch appear in PM&IF 102 before A 233, and Captain America appears in A 234 before IM 172. So IA 2 must occur sometime after PM&IF 102. (Back in PM&IF 94, Danny Rand offers to speak to Stark to get someone a job, so this chronology makes sense.)

Cage and Rand should appear in IA 3 before their appearance in IM 177, in which they are on friendlier terms with the Iron Man (who happens to be Jim Rhodes).

So...
Power Man & Iron Fist appear in IA 2 between PM&IF 102 and IM 177
Misty Knight & Colleen Wing appear in IA 2 between PM&IF 101 and PM&IF 103
Jennie Royce appears in IA 2 between PM&IF 100 and PM&IF 105-BTS
Scorpion appears in IA 2 between A 222 and COH 3

Also:
TINKERER
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PPTSS 53
*FF 233-BTS [add]
*IA 2 [add]
CA 319-BTS
...
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Re: Iron Age 2

Post by Paul Bourcier » Sun Aug 28, 2011 3:20 pm

Here's my placement for the second story in IA 2.

Reed and Sue have been away for a few days, celebrating the patch up in their relationship, so it's shortly after FF 149. That right there places this story firmly in time, at a time when Iron Man did have that nose mask. Thing and Alicia Masters are out bowling BTS. The Tony Stark of this time period appears too.

So...
Iron Man (Stark) is in IA 2/2 between A 280-FB and CA 176.
Human Torch is in IA 2/2 between FF 149 and GSS-M 1.
Thing is BTS in IA 2/2 between FF 149 and GSFF 2.
Alicia Masters is BTS in IA 2/2 between FF 144 and FF 150.

Also:
DR. DOOM
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FF 144
GSSVTU 1-FB (I think this is a FB)
*IA 2/2 [add]
*FF 157-FB [add]
FF 155
...
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