Hand Ninja chronologies, part 2

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Hand Ninja chronologies, part 2

Post by JephYork » Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:23 am

Hand ninjas show up in Wolverine #82 and #87 (June and November 1994). I'm trying to give them Index-style next and lasts as a group, like I did last time. Can anyone help me out with a list of the Hand's other appearances in 1994 (and maybe early 1995)?

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Re: Hand Ninja chronologies, part 2

Post by Chris McCarver » Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:55 am

Did a buzz through ComicBookDB... unless they've missed an appearance, W2 82's the only Hand appearance I'm finding in that timeframe.
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Re: Hand Ninja chronologies, part 2

Post by Paul Bourcier » Mon Aug 15, 2011 6:12 am

My notes, which are incomplete, have the Hand in DD 319 (1993) and OTE 8 (1996), and also in the flashback story, W@ '99/2, which occurs before X 25. That story also features She-Hulk, Captain America, Thing, and Nick Fury. Is either story in that annual in the MCP?
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Re: Hand Ninja chronologies, part 2

Post by JephYork » Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:44 pm

Both stories are in the MCP, yes. And why does the second story need to be pre-X #25? Is it because of Wolverine's metal claws? We currently have it placed after he gets them back -- both stories occur after X #98.

I'm finding it hard to believe that the Hand kind of vanished from comics during 1994. They were all over the X-books in 1992!

What about the "Elektra: the Hand" miniseries? It came out in 2004-2005, but we've got it placed just before 1993's DD #322. (Does that mean that the Hand are in DD #322 as well? You say they were in #319, and it seems like wherever Elektra goes, they're not too far off...)

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Re: Hand Ninja chronologies, part 2

Post by Paul Bourcier » Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:55 am

Ah, post-X 98 it is.

I checked, and Hand ninjas do appear in DD 322.
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Re: Hand Ninja chronologies, part 2

Post by JephYork » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:02 am

Thanks. Could you (or someone else) check the rest of Elektra's appearances in this range? I don't own any of them.

DD #323-327, 330, 332 & Annual #10
Elektra: Root of Evil #14

Actually, we should probably check DD #328-329 and 331 as well...

Can anyone please help? Thanks in advance!

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Re: Hand Ninja chronologies, part 2

Post by JephYork » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:58 am

The Unofficial Marvel Appendix's Master List notes that the Hand appear in all of DD #320-325. Can someone confirm? (Actually, it's enough to just confirm if they appear in #325. If that's the case, it doesn't matter if they're in #320-324.)

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Re: Hand Ninja chronologies, part 2

Post by michel » Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:33 pm

The Hand appears indeed in DD 325, precisely the Snakeroot clan

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Re: Hand Ninja chronologies, part 2

Post by JephYork » Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:36 pm

Awesome, thank you. Any Hand sightings in DD #326-334, Annual #10 or the Root of Evil series?

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Re: Hand Ninja chronologies, part 2

Post by michel » Wed Aug 17, 2011 9:34 am

No Hand in DD #326-334

The Snakeroot Clan resurrects Ghostmaker in DD@ 10, and Osaku, of the Snakeroot Clan, appears in DD@ 10/2, a Black Widow story

For the Root of Evil series, I'm sorry, I have it but I don't know where I put it !

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Re: Hand Ninja chronologies, part 2

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Re: Hand Ninja chronologies, part 2

Post by JephYork » Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:48 pm

Hmm. Okay -- it looks like the Hand subdivides into several different clans around this time. The ninjas appearing in W #87 use modern weaponry, and are therefore part of the Death Touch Cult (first seen in W2 #55, and named in W2 #108). I've got that group's chronology sorted now.

However, the ones in W2 #82 are just generic ninjas. I need some before-and-afters for generic Hand ninjas.

I can't use the ones that appear in DD #319-325, Annual #10 and Elek:RE #1-4, because those are all Snakeroot Clan -- something the ninjas in W2 #82 definitely are NOT. (Also, all those characters are named -- they have separate chronos, and can't get counted as "generic Hand ninjas".)

Paul mentioned that Hand ninjas appear in Over the Edge #8. Are those generic ninjas, or do they belong to one of the clans? If they're generic, that could be a "next in" for them -- though it was published two full years after W2 #82, so I worry that other "generics" may have shown up in the interim.

What about prior to W2 #82? Last thread, Paul was able to give me a list that went up through May 1993. Paul do you (or does anyone) have one that stretches up through June 1994? If you can give me the full list, we can pick out all the named Snakeroot appearances, and hopefully be left with just the generic ones.

This is also kind of a priority ... I'd appreciate any help ASAP. Thanks!

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Re: Hand Ninja chronologies, part 2

Post by Paul Bourcier » Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:26 pm

Over the Edge #8 (June 1996) has generic Hand ninjas. Then I have the Hand showing up in Wolverine #107 (Nov 1996).
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Re: Hand Ninja chronologies, part 2

Post by JephYork » Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:12 pm

Thanks, Paul. The ninjas in W2 #107-109 are Death Touch Cult.

What about any appearances between May '93 and June '94?

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Re: Hand Ninja chronologies, part 2

Post by Paul Bourcier » Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:55 pm

My notes don't list Hand ninjas for that period, but then again, my notes aren't exhaustive.
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