Avengers Origins:Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver

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Avengers Origins:Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver

Post by Michael » Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:27 am

OK, this is weird- it supposedly takes place during the X-Men's encounter with the Brotherhood in San Marco in UX 4 but there doesn't seem to be any way to make the stories mesh. We have the X-Men only finding the Brotherhood because Magneto removed his helmet at Pietro's request, for example. Moreover, we have Toad using his elongated tongue, which he didn't have at this point. We also have Bobby making an ice slide- has he ever been shown to create ice slides this early?
In addition, we have Magneto telling Wanda that the "use of your unique hex spheres, as you call them, is in the name of a greater good". (A greater good- I had no idea Magneto was secretly Dumbledore!) Wanda's hex power didn't manifest as hex spheres until Incredible Hulk 128.
We also have a flashback of Magda abandoning Pietro when he was at least three or four- every previous account has Pietro and Wanda as infants when Magda left.
A really major problem is that this story makes it very difficult to believe that Wanda and Pietro didn't realize that Magneto was their father immediately after A 186-187. Wanda learns that Magneto's wife was named Magda, that she last lived "near some sort of lab in the Balkans", that Magneto was traveling to where Magda last lived when he met them and Pietro points out that he looks like Magneto when he was younger. Wanda and Pietro would have to be complete morons not to realize who their father was after hearing Bova's tale.
Can anyone think of a way to shoehorn this into continuity?

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Re: Avengers Origins:Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver

Post by zilch » Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:26 pm

Not really too much problems with it.

Mags is explaining the theory of hex spheres to Wanda, she probably isn't skilled enough to use them as a regular weapon until later.

The 'what will we do now, where will we go" is after X-Men #11, they think Mags is going to be back soon instead of in space forever.

They aren't in New York, but probably watching a broadcast in Transia of Spidey's battle with the Scorpion.

Pietro's memory is from infancy.

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Re: Avengers Origins:Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver

Post by Paul Bourcier » Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:11 pm

I don't agree with zilch. There are way too many problems with this story to reconcile it with established canon. Look no further than the scene in which Pietro and Wanda leave Magneto -- totally different than what was shown in UX 11. Then there's Wanda knowing Magneto's name is Eric, Pietro suspecting that Magneto's their father, etc.

I think this Avengers: Origins series takes place outside of Earth-616 in a reality in which events are similar but not identical to those of 616.
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