Hashing out X-Men post utopa-pre regenesis (now expanded)

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Re: Hashing out X-Men post utopa-pre regenesis

Post by Frans » Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:31 pm

I've just read HERC v1 #7 and #8, which include Storm, Wolverine, Emma Frost and Gambit. The Herc-issues are part of Spider-Island. The X-Men make it very clear that they are in New York because they've just dealt with the Lizard, as depicted in X-MEN v3 #7-10.

Shouldn't the whole of X-MEN v3 #7-15 be placed after Fear Itself and before Spider-Island? A period which is quite cluttered...

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Re: Hashing out X-Men post utopa-pre regenesis

Post by Jason Doty » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:16 pm

If you want we can start moving things now, I can, but we might want to wait until the Wolverine index comes out. That should narrow many things down quite a bit. I'm running low on energy on the arguing placement side of things. I'll look at it, but your placement sounds correct.

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Re: Hashing out X-Men post utopa-pre regenesis

Post by Jason Doty » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:39 pm

Hey Frans,

I moved the "Wolverine Revenge" arc to after Alpha Flight v4 and between "The Fearless," based on the other thread, but this could go to the opposite side of the arc depending on what they decide in the Wolverine Index.

I also made the correction you suggested, which moved the other X-Men v3 arcs between "Spider Island" and "Schism", though this may have to be adjusted by whats going on in the FF stories. My brain hurts.

Let me know if that looks alright to you?

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Re: Hashing out X-Men post utopa-pre regenesis

Post by Jason Doty » Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:20 pm

I'm going to move the FF no. 3-11 to after their appearance in X-Men v3 to accommodate Doom. Does anyone have any suggestions to put breaks in FF or keep it as a whole?

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Re: Hashing out X-Men post utopa-pre regenesis

Post by Frans » Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:02 pm

Shouldn't CHAOS WAR been moved to before NEW AVENGERS v2? This because Brother Voodoo appears in Chaos War and if I'm not mistaken he died in #6 of New Avengers v2. Or am I missing something?

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Re: Hashing out X-Men post utopa-pre regenesis

Post by Paul Bourcier » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:50 pm

Frans wrote:
Shouldn't CHAOS WAR been moved to before NEW AVENGERS v2? This because Brother Voodoo appears in Chaos War and if I'm not mistaken he died in #6 of New Avengers v2. Or am I missing something?
Yes, that's right. Jericho's appearance in Age of Heroes #1/2 (which occurs after Siege tie-in New Avengers: Finale #1) also must occur before New Avengers v2 #1 for the same reason.
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Re: Hashing out X-Men post utopa-pre regenesis

Post by Jason Doty » Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:03 pm

Frans and Paul, could you give me where you want these specifically in comparison to the other issues on the list, instead of in general.

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Re: Hashing out X-Men post utopa-pre regenesis

Post by Jason Doty » Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:50 am

I moved the New Avengers v2 based on our discussion in the Doctor Strange thread.

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Re: Hashing out X-Men post utopa-pre regenesis

Post by Jason Doty » Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:30 am

I added in Annihilators: Earthfall based on the clues from the Red Hulk thread to see if they would match with Thing, Wolverine. I think its a sound placing.

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Re: Hashing out X-Men post utopa-pre regenesis

Post by Emerald_616 » Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:57 pm

So I had a thought. Would we want to just extend our list through Regenesis to Avengers vs X-Men? There aren't that many X-issues that came out between the two, and I think they'd be relatively easy to place.

For that matter, it wouldn't be too hard to place the rest of Avengers and New Avengers either as those don't have a lot of issues between the end of our list and AvX. When I get home from work, I'd be up for starting a skeleton of a list to be appended to the original post.

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Re: Hashing out X-Men post utopa-pre regenesis

Post by Jason Doty » Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:24 pm

That sounds fine with me Emerald_616. I've been modifying to keep up with Col Fury, Paul and Frans in other posts to try and keep us on the same page. Go ahead and put up your list, and I'll add it in to see how it looks.

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Re: Hashing out X-Men post utopa-pre regenesis

Post by Emerald_616 » Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:40 pm

Alright, here goes it. Feel free to critique and add, as I haven't read every issue, so some of this is based upon summaries, settings, and character appearances only.

Wolverine's side:
Wolverine v4 #17
Wolverine v4 #18
Wolverine v4 #19
Wolverine v4 #20

X-Factor #229
X-Factor #230

X-23 v3 #17
X-23 v3 #18
X-23 v3 #19

Astonishing X-Men v3 #52-FB
Astonishing X-Men v3 #48 (5-20)
Astonishing X-Men v3 #49 (4-20)
Astonishing X-Men v3 #50
Astonishing X-Men v3 #51-FB (3-10) [1 week before wedding]

X-23 v3 #20 (Jubilee comes to town, stays for wedding)

Astonishing X-Men v3 #51 (1-2, 11-26)
Astonishing X-Men v3 #52
Astonishing X-Men v3 #53
Astonishing X-Men v3 #54
Astonishing X-Men v3 #55
Astonishing X-Men v3 #56

X-23 v3 21

Wolverine & the X-Men #1
Wolverine & the X-Men #2
Wolverine & the X-Men #3

Wolverine v2 #300
Wolverine v2 #301
Wolverine v2 #302
Wolverine v2 #303
Wolverine v2 #304

Wolverine v2 #305
Wolverine v2 #306
Wolverine v2 #307
Wolverine v2 #308

Uncanny X-Force #10
Uncanny X-Force #11
Uncanny X-Force #12
Uncanny X-Force #13
Uncanny X-Force #14
Uncanny X-Force #15
Uncanny X-Force #16
Uncanny X-Force #17
Uncanny X-Force #18
Uncanny X-Force #19
Uncanny X-Force #20
Uncanny X-Force #21
Uncanny X-Force #22
Uncanny X-Force #23
Uncanny X-Force #24

Wolverine & the X-Men #4

X-Men Legacy #260.1
X-Men Legacy #261
X-Men Legacy #262
X-Men Legacy #263

Wolverine & the X-Men: Alpha & Omega #1
Wolverine & the X-Men: Alpha & Omega #2
Wolverine & the X-Men: Alpha & Omega #3
Wolverine & the X-Men: Alpha & Omega #4
Wolverine & the X-Men: Alpha & Omega #5

X-Men Legacy #264
X-Men Legacy #265

Wolverine & the X-Men #5
Wolverine & the X-Men #6
Wolverine & the X-Men #7
Wolverine & the X-Men #8

Unplaced:
Wolverine v2 #310-317 + Annual (Clandestine story)
X-Factor #231-236
Astonishing X-Men Annual

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Re: Hashing out X-Men post utopa-pre regenesis

Post by Emerald_616 » Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:49 pm

Cyclops' side:

Astonishing X-Men #44
Astonishing X-Men #45
Astonishing X-Men #46
Astonishing X-Men #47

New Mutants #33-FB
Uncanny X-Men #1 (1-11)

New Mutants #33
New Mutants #34
New Mutants #35
New Mutants #36

Uncanny X-Men #1 (12-20)
Uncanny X-Men #2
Uncanny X-Men #3
Uncanny X-Men #4
Uncanny X-Men #5
Uncanny X-Men #6
Uncanny X-Men #7
Uncanny X-Men #8

X-Men v3 #20
X-Men v3 #21
X-Men v3 #22
X-Men v3 #23
X-Men v3 #24
X-Men v3 #25
X-Men v3 #26
X-Men v3 #27

Generation Hope #13
Generation Hope #14
Generation Hope #15
Generation Hope #16
Generation Hope #17

X-Men v3 #28
X-Men v3 #29

X-Men v3 #30
X-Men v3 #31
X-Men v3 #32
X-Men v3 #33
X-Men v3 #34
X-Men v3 #35
X-Men v3 #36
X-Men v3 #37

X-Men v3 #38
X-Men v3 #39

Uncanny X-Men #9
Uncanny X-Men #10

Unplaced:
Magneto: Not a Hero #1-4
X-Club #1-5
New Mutants #37-50 (+ associated Exiled issues)
Avengers: X-Sanction #1-4

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Re: Hashing out X-Men post utopa-pre regenesis

Post by Jason Doty » Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:00 pm

Alright Emerald, I'm gonna add in your spine starting with Cyclops's side, and then well start hitting them arc by arc. Once we rough out one side we'll tackle the other. As always any help is always appreciated.

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Re: Hashing out X-Men post utopa-pre regenesis (now expanded

Post by Jason Doty » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:30 am

Emerald_616,

I've been doing some individual listings for X-Men characters and starting off Wolverine and the X-Men #1-3 need to come before the Astonishing issues, because Warbird arrives on Earth in Wolverine and the X-Men no.1 with Kid Gladiator.

My preliminary thinking on this is that there is a gap between no.3 and 4 where a lot of Wolverine must fit. Kitty is infected by the Brood at the end of no.4, which leads into no.5, and no.5-8 lead into Avengers vs. X-Men, with Wolverine being crippled in-between.

Your thoughts?

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