Roughing out Major recent story lines

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Roughing out Major recent story lines

Post by Jason Doty » Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:30 pm

Instead of starting a giant list and going a title at a time. Which can lead to confusion, lets break this down in block sections to analyze.

If a particular title comes between or during any of these events, let me know what title and issue numbers. Then well look at all the titles in one area at a time. Here are the major events.

Avengers vs. X-Men

Avengers v4 #24, 24.1, 25-30
Avengers Academy v1 #29-33
Avengers vs. X-Men v1 # 0, 1-12
AvX v1 #1-6
New Avengers v2 #24-30
Secret Avengers v1 #26-28
Uncanny X-Men v2 #11-20
Wolverine and the X-Men #9-18
X-Men: Legacy v1 #266-274

After Avengers vs. X-Men, before Age of Ultron
.....
A+X v1 #1-11
Age of Apocalypse v1 #13-14 (X-Termination crossover)
All-New X-Men v1 #1-14 (Beast mutated, ties in with Uncanny X-Men v3, Uncanny Avengers #5)
Alpha: Big Time v1 #1-5 (After Doc Ock takes over Parkers body, Danvers as Captain Marvel)
Amazing Spider-Man v1 #688-699, 699.1, 700
Astonishing X-Men v3 #57-68 (*X-Termination cross-over, before Dazzler joins SHIELD)
Avengers v4 #31-34
Avengers v5 #1-13
Avengers Academy v1 #35-39
Avengers Assemble v2 #9-13 (*Danvers as Captain Marvel/before Hulk works for SHIELD and Superior Spider-Man)
Avengers Assemble Annual v1 #1 (*After Avengers v4/New Avengers v2 end, before Avengers A.I, Young Avengers v2)
Avenging Spider-Man v1 #9-15, 15.1,16-18
AvX: Consequences v1 #1-5
Captain Marvel v8 #1-12
Fantastic Four v4 #1-5
Fearless Defenders v1 #1-4
FF v2 #1-5
New Avengers v2 #31-34
Secret Avengers v1 #29-37
Spider-Men v1 #1-5
Superior Spider-Man v1 #1-6
Uncanny Avengers v1 #1-6
Uncanny X-Men v3 #1-7
Wolverine and the X-Men v1 #19-28
X-Men Legacy v1 #275
X-Termination v1 #1-2 (*X-Termination crossover, before Dazzler joins SHIELD)
X-Treme X-Men v2 #12-13 (*X-Termination crossover), before Dazzler joins SHIELD
.....

Age of Ultron

Age of Ultron v1 #1-10, 10.AI
Avengers Assemble v2 #14.AU-15.AU
Fantastic Four v4 #5.AU
Fearless Defenders v1 #4.AU
Superior Spider-Man v1 #6.AU
Ultron v1 #1.AU
Uncanny Avengers v1 #8.AU
Wolverine and the X-Men v1 #27.AU

After Age of Ultron, before Infinity
.....
All-New X-Men v1 #15 (Before All-New X-Men Special, After Wolverine and X-Men #24)
All-New X-Men Special v1 #1 (continued in Indestructible Hulk Special)
Avengers v5 #14-17
Avengers: The Enemy Within v1 #1
Avengers A.I. v.1 #1-6
Avengers Arena v1 #1-18
Avengers Assemble v2 #16-17
Avenging Spider-Man v1 #19-22
Captain Marvel v8 #13-14
Cataclysm: The Ultimates Last Stand v1 #1-5
Fantastic Four v4 #6-16
Fearless Defenders v1 #5-9
FF v2 #6-16
Indestructible Hulk Special v1 #1 (continues in Super Spider-Man Team-Up Special)
Scarlet Spider v2 #20
Superior Spider-Man v1 #7-19
Superior Spider-Man Team-Up v1 #1-2
Superior Spider-Man Team-Up Special v1 #1
Wolverine and the X-Men v1 #29-35
.....

Infinity

Avengers v5 #18-23
Avengers Assemble #18-20
Captain Marvel v8 #15-16
Fearless Defenders v1 #10
Guardians of the Galaxy v3 #8-9
Infinity v1 #1-6
Infinity: Against the Tide v1 #1-2 (Infinite Comic)
Infinity: Heist #1-4
Infinity: The Hunt v1 #1-4
Mighty Avengers v2 #1-3
New Avengers v3 #8-12
Nova v5 #8-9
Secret Avengers v2 #10-11
Superior Spider-Man Team-Up v1 #3-4
Thunderbolts v2 #14-18
Wolverine and the X-Men Annual v1 #1

After Infinity, before Battle of the Atom
.....
Avengers A.I. v1 #6-10
Avengers Assemble v1 #21-25
Cable and X-Force v1 #18-19
Captain America v7 #1-19
Captain Marvel v8 #17
Fearless Defenders v1 #11-12
Guardians of the Galaxy v3 #10
Indestructible Hulk v1 #16-20
Indestructible Hulk Annual v1 #1
Inhumanity v1 #1-2
Marvel Knights X-Men v1 #1-5
Mighty Avengers v2 #4-5
New Avengers v3 #13-14
Savage Wolverine v1 #12-13
Superior Spider-Man v1 #20-21
Superior Spider-Man Annual v1 #1
Superior Spider-Man Team-Up v1 #5-8
Thunderbolts v2 #19-22
Uncanny Avengers v1 #7-18
Uncanny X-Force v2 #1-17
Wolverine & X-Men Annual v1 #1 (29-30)
Uncanny Avengers v1 #7-18
Wolverine v5 #1-7 (*Wolverine loses healing factor)
.....

X-Men: Battle of the Atom

All-New X-Men v1 #16-17
Uncanny X-Men v3 #12-13
X-Men v4 #5-6
X-Men: Battle of the Atom #1-2 (pg.1-28)
Wolverine and the X-Men v1 #36-37

After Battle of the Atom, before Goblin Nation
.....
All New X-Men v1 #18-24 (*Kitty Pryde and Original X-Men join Cyclops, X-23 joins, part of trial of Jean Grey)
Avengers v5 #24 (6-17)
Guardians of the Galaxy v3 #11-13 (*part of Trial of Jean Grey)
Superior Spider-Man v1 #22-26
Uncanny X-Men v3 #14-18 (*After Infinity, Magneto leaves, Original X-Men part of trial of Jean Grey)
Wolverine v5 #8-13 (*Before Kitty Pryde joins Cyclops, Wolverine scarred by Sabretooth)
Wolverine and the X-Men v1 #38-42
X-Men: Battle of the Atom #2 (29-31) (*Kitty Pryde and original X-Men join Cyclops)
.....

Spider-Man:Goblin Nation

Superior Spider-Man v1 #27-29
Superior Spider-Man Team-Up v1 #9-10

After Goblin Nation, before Original Sin
.....
Daredevil v3 #31-36
Wolverine v6 #1-2
.....

Original Sin

Let me know what titles and issue numbers happen between what event and I'll add them in.
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Re: Roughing out Major recent story lines

Post by Paul Bourcier » Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:17 am

Here are comics I have between Infinity and Battle of the Atom, thanks in part to assistance from Jason:
Avengers A.I. #6-10
Mighty Avengers v2 #4-5
Inhumanity #2
New Avengers v3 #13-14
Wolverine & X-Men Annual #1 (29-30)
Indestructible Hulk #16
Indestructible Hulk Annual #1
Avengers Assemble #21-25
Indestructible Hulk #17-20
Uncanny X-Force v2 #1-15
Captain America v7 #1-19
Uncanny Avengers #7-18
Cable & X-Force #18/Uncanny X-Force v2 #16/Cable & X-Force #19/Uncanny X-Force #17
Savage Wolverine #12-13
Wolverine v5 #1-7

Battle of the Atom consists of:
X-Men: Battle of the Atom #1
All-New X-Men #16
X-Men v4 #5
Uncanny X-Men v3 #12
Wolverine & the X-Men #36
All-New X-Men #17
X-Men v4 #6
Uncanny X-Men v3 #13
Wolverine & the X-Men #37
X-Men: Battle of the Atom #2 (1-28)

Then, to the end of Battle of the Atom:
Wolverine v5 #8-13
Uncanny X-Men v3 #14
Wolverine v6 #1-FB
X-Men: Battle of the Atom #2 (29-31)
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Re: Roughing out Major recent story lines

Post by Jason Doty » Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:24 pm

I added yours in Paul and a couple other series. Anybody else want to jump in?

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Re: Roughing out Major recent story lines

Post by Paul Bourcier » Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:52 pm

After Battle of the Atom & before Goblin Nation:
All New X-Men #18 -- immediately after BOTA
Uncanny X-Men v3 #15
Wolverine & the X-Men #38-40
Avengers v5 #24 (6-17) -- Cap considers booting de-powered Logan and Spidey too
Superior Spider-Man #22-26 -- Spidey quits Avengers
Superior Spider-Man Team-Up #9-10 -- Daredevil appears; Spidey learns Goblin is his enemy
Wolverine v6 #2-FB -- Logan booted from Avengers; Spidey has quit; fight against Goblin's lackeys

Daredevil v3 #31-36 (DD's ID revealed) follow SuSMTU 9-10 but unsure if before or after Goblin Nation

Goblin Nation:
Superior Spider-Man #27-29
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Re: Roughing out Major recent story lines

Post by Jason Doty » Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:03 pm

Added Paul. I placed Daredevil After Goblin Nation because the FF have their new Red uniforms. I think most of the 2nd wave Marvel Now are going to broadly occur after Goblin Nation.

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Re: Roughing out Major recent story lines

Post by Paul Bourcier » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:09 am

OK, sounds good. We're assuming that the red uniforms make their chronologically earliest appearance in FF5 1, but there's no reason (yet) to assume otherwise.
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Re: Roughing out Major recent story lines

Post by Paul Bourcier » Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:16 am

Thunderbolts v2 #20-22 should occur just after Infinity (certainly before Battle of the Atom, time-wise).

Uncanny X-Men v3 #17-18 happen at the same time as ANX 22-24/GOTG3 11-13, so let's add that to the time after Battle of the Atom and before Goblin Nation.

There are other comics I can place before or after comics on the list, but I can't slot them definitively into the outlined time periods. For example, Marvel Knights X-Men #1-5 occur before W5 1, but I'm not sure if it should go before Infinity. Amazing X-Men v2 #1-4 occur after Battle of the Atom, but I don't know where they sit relative to Goblin Nation.

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Re: Roughing out Major recent story lines

Post by Jason Doty » Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:16 pm

I've gone in and added the titles Alphabetically that fall during an event. I'm gonna go through and make sure the titles are the same between events and then we can add a title at a time alphabetically and make sure we didn't miss any. Hopefully it will be easier on the eyes and get more people involved. Once we have them all up we can begin evaluating them by section.

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Re: Roughing out Major recent story lines

Post by Paul Bourcier » Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:15 am

One thing we did have before the alphabetical reorganization was a pretty good chronological sequence. We already know some stories happen before or after other stories within each section*, and if our goal is to establish a chronological spine, we need to maintain that knowledge somehow. I think we should also include substantial flashbacks set at points in time other than the main story, such as those in W6 2-3. This approach would save some time in the long run and may actually assist the placement of titles as they're added.

*One example:
A5 24 (6-17) > SuSM 22-26 > SuSMTU 9-10 > W6 2-FB/W6 3-FB

I'm open to ideas about how we might do this.
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Re: Roughing out Major recent story lines

Post by Jason Doty » Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:11 am

How about i put up major plot points along side the run of issues. Just for a quick glance to help with placement.

like.

All-New X-Men v1 #1-13 (Beast gets mutated, Havok gives speech on mutants, Angel (past) joins New Xavier School)
Wolverine and the X-Men v1 #19-28 (Storm gets Mohawk, ect..)

I didn't want to get into to many chronological points until we break it down into smaller groups. but I can see your point about having major beats. It just becomes very cumbersome to add in everybody's points of view as we go on a giant list.

I also don't want to miss any titles. This is just a "rough" list.

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Re: Roughing out Major recent story lines

Post by Jason Doty » Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:17 pm

I added in Superior Spider-Man titles.

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Re: Roughing out Major recent story lines

Post by Paul Bourcier » Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:54 pm

Jason wrote:
How about i put up major plot points along side the run of issues. Just for a quick glance to help with placement.
Let's give that a shot and see how it looks. Maybe bold the titles to make them stand out.
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Re: Roughing out Major recent story lines

Post by Jason Doty » Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:58 pm

Alright here is a list of the "A" titles for our list of rough placement that came out in 2013.

AAFES no.14-15 (will be added to giveaway check list)
Age of Apocalypse no.9-14 (13-14 placed) no.9-12 take place in an alternate universe
Age of Ultron no.1-10.AI (already up)
All-New X-Men no.1-17 (already up)
All-New X-Men Special no.1 (already up)
Alpha: Big Time no.1-5 (already up)
Amazing Spider-Man no.697-700 (already up)
Astonishing X-Men v3 no.57-68 (already up)
Astonishing X-Men Annual no.1 (takes place before X-Men vs. Avengers)
Avengers v4 no.33-34 (already up)
Avengers v5 #1-22 (already up)
Avengers Academy no.39 (already up)
Avengers A.I. no. 1-5 (already up)
Avengers Arena no.1-16 (already up)
Avengers Assemble v2 #9-20 (already up)
Avengers Assemble Annual #1 (already up)
Avengers: Endless Wartime Graphic Novel no.1
Avengers: The Enemy Within no.1 (already up)
Avengers: Heroes Welcome Digital Comic (will be added to Giveaway check list)
Avenging Spider-Man no.14-22 (already up)
AvX: Consequences no.1-5 (already up)
A+X no.1-13 (placed no.1-11) need no. 12-13 placed

That should cover all the "A" comics from 2013. Any help that you could provide with brief placement clues would be appreciated, then well move on to the next letter, which will be "C" since there are no "B" comics in 2013.

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Re: Roughing out Major recent story lines

Post by Jason Doty » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:16 pm

Here are the "C" comics.

Cable and X-Force v1 #1-15
Captain America and... v1 #639-640
Captain America v7 #1-12
Captain America: Living Legend v1 #1-2
Captain America: Transformation and Triumph Custom Comic v1 #1 (will be added to giveaway checklist)
Captain Marvel v8 #7-16

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Re: Roughing out Major recent story lines

Post by Emerald_616 » Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:06 pm

Is there a list of all titles released in 2013 elsewhere on the Internet? That way we can help list by each letter and get this list going.

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