Amazing Spider-Man 1.1

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Amazing Spider-Man 1.1

Post by Leoparis » Thu May 08, 2014 11:29 am

A new continuity insert between Amazing Fantasy #15 and Amazing Spider-Man #1

Per the official index, issues and flashbacks taking place in this period include
ASM #94 fb, PPTSSM 60 fb (for the funeral)
ASM 400/3
Web:TS 12 fb
Amazing Fantasy #16
SpSM 1/2
SMU 10 fb
Amazing Fantasy 17-18,
WoSM 81 fb
TWoS 2 fb
PPSM Ann 1

in addition the chronology page includes
PPTSS 225/2 (4:4)-FB
ASM Fam 3

And Avenging Spider-Man #11 had new material http://chronologyproject.com/phpbb2/vie ... f=2&t=6496
and pointed to other flashbacks to incorporate.

I noticed a mistake, the chronology page includes MJ finding out Peter is Spider-Man (when he crawls out of his room) between pages 7 & 8 of AF 15. However he's at a show on these pages. It should be between pages 9 & 10 of AF 15.

AAF 15 (7)
SM:PL (12)-FB
**UTSM 16-FB delete from here
PPTSS 60/2 (10:4 - 10:5)
WOSM 90 (3:6 - 3:7)-FB
AAF 15 (8:1)
...
AAF 15 (9:7)
**UTSM 16-FB move to here
SM:PL (18:1 - 19:1)-FB
AAF 15 (10:1 - 10:2)

pages 1-3 seem to pick up directly from the last panel of AF 15
so just before p 6 fb1 of Avenging #11
p 8 fb2 of Avenging #1 probably take place here too

pages 4-11 happen before the funeral
Page 4 at breakfast, Peter tells his aunt to take it easy, picks up the phone to find out about the family debts
pages 5-6 he goes to see his agent Maxie Schiffman to line up some gigs (so after page 2 of AAF 16)
pages 7-8 he goes to high school where he meets Principal Davis, Liz Allan, Flash Thompson
page 9 only shows a new character
page 10-11 Spidey at a show, Flash & Liz & other students watching it on TV, JJ Jameson complaining about the show, the Chameleon gets curious about it

p 12 Peter dressing for the funeral, Principal Davis calls May about Peter missing classes

p 13 at the funeral in the cemetery
(crossover with ASM 94, PPTSM 60, AvSM 11 pp 10-11)
p 14 after the funeral at home, neighbors bring food
(crossover with AvSM 11, pp 10-11)
p 15 Maxie Schiffman prepares the next show with Quentin Beck (future Mysterio)
p 16-17 May walks Peter to school to make sure he meets Principal Davis and the school counselor (likely after pp 13-16 of AvSM 11)
p 18-21:1 Spider-Man narrowly avoids a catastrophe at the show, Maxie Schiffman loses the network's support
p 21:2-3 JJJ writes an anti-Spidey article

So...
AAF 15 (11:8) walks in the night
*ASM 1.1 (1-3) walks back home
*AvSM 11 (6, 8)-FB back home, then wakes up
*ASM 1.1 (4) has breakfast
ASM 400/3 morning after
*AAF 16 (1 - 6) move to here (evening)
*ASM 1.1 (5-6) sees Maxie Schiffman
*ASM 1.1 (7-12)
WTS 12 (28)-FB open casket ceremony.
PPTSS 225/2 (4:4)-FB funeral?
*AvSM 11 (10) Memorial service at parlor, casket closed.
*AAF 16 (1 - 6) delete from here
ASMU 10 (19:6)-FB funeral (Colm Mulligan is in the background at Ben Parker's funeral) Is the casket open of closed? Is it in a parlor or at the cemetery?
ASM 1.1 (13) Lots of people at funeral in cemetery, casket closed.
AAF 16 (7:1 - 7:3) ceremony after the casket is buried, only Peter, May and a minister
ASM 94 (6:4 - 6:5)-FB funeral (same pictures as above)
SPECSM 1/2 (1 - 2:2) funeral?
AAF 16 (7:4 - 7:5) Peter and May leave the cemetery
PPTSS 60/2 (17:2 - 17:4) funeral?
SPECSM 1/2 (10:3) funeral?
PPTSS 60/2 (17:6) funeral?
SPECSM 1/2 (10:4) funeral?
*AvSM 11 (10-11) after funeral
*ASM 1.1 (14) after funeral, people offer casseroles
*AvSM 11 (11) after funeral at home, May hasn't been seen for a while
AAF 16 (8 - 30) (next day after funeral)
Oups! Dan Slott's story contradicts Busiek's. In Slott's Spider-Man contacts Maxie and does a show before the funeral. In Busiek's the funeral takes place before Maxie can reach Spidey.

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Re: Amazing Spider-Man 1.1

Post by Russ Chappell » Thu May 08, 2014 12:46 pm

Leoparis wrote:PPTSS 225/2 (4:4)-FB funeral?
*AvSM 11 (10) Memorial service at parlor, casket closed.
*AAF 16 (1 - 6) delete from here
ASMU 10 (19:6)-FB funeral (Colm Mulligan is in the background at Ben Parker's funeral) Is the casket open of closed? Is it in a parlor or at the cemetery?
ASM 1.1 (13) Lots of people at funeral in cemetery, casket closed.
AAF 16 (7:1 - 7:3) ceremony after the casket is buried, only Peter, May and a minister
ASM 94 (6:4 - 6:5)-FB funeral (same pictures as above)
SPECSM 1/2 (1 - 2:2) funeral?
AAF 16 (7:4 - 7:5) Peter and May leave the cemetery
PPTSS 60/2 (17:2 - 17:4) funeral?
SPECSM 1/2 (10:3) funeral?
PPTSS 60/2 (17:6) funeral?
SPECSM 1/2 (10:4) funeral?
*AvSM 11 (10-11) after funeral
*ASM 1.1 (14) after funeral, people offer casseroles
*AvSM 11 (11) after funeral at home, May hasn't been seen for a while
AAF 16 (8 - 30) (next day after funeral)
Please see this post.

Which books do you have?

You've listed pages 10 & 11 of AvSM 11 twice.

You have page 10 between PPTSS 225/2 (4:4)-FB & ASMU 10 (19:6)-FB, and again between SPECSM 1/2 (10:4) & ASM 1.1 (14).
You have page 11 between SPECSM 1/2 (10:4) & ASM 1.1 (14), and again between ASM 1.1 (14) & AAF 16 (8-30).

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Re: Amazing Spider-Man 1.1

Post by Paul Bourcier » Thu May 08, 2014 8:23 pm

While we're at it, we should also include the first chronological appearance of Clash in a story from last week's Amazing Spider-Man #1 (which includes Spidey's bout with Crusher Hogan), and also the first two pages of the main story in that comic (the spider bites a second person, who'll become Silk). Lots of continuity implants here, and right at the time Spider-Man 2 is out. What a coincidence!
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Re: Amazing Spider-Man 1.1

Post by Leoparis » Sun May 11, 2014 11:24 am

I don't have

PPTSSM 60 fb
ASM 400/3
Web:TS 12 fb
SpSM 1/2
SMU 10 fb
WoSM 81 fb
TWoS 2 fb
PPSM Ann 1
PPTSS 225/2 (4:4)-FB
ASM Fam 3

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Re: Amazing Spider-Man 1.1

Post by Arthur » Tue May 13, 2014 4:47 pm

Leoparis wrote:
I noticed a mistake, the chronology page includes MJ finding out Peter is Spider-Man (when he crawls out of his room) between pages 7 & 8 of AF 15. However he's at a show on these pages. It should be between pages 9 & 10 of AF 15.

AAF 15 (7)
SM:PL (12)-FB
**UTSM 16-FB delete from here
PPTSS 60/2 (10:4 - 10:5)
WOSM 90 (3:6 - 3:7)-FB
AAF 15 (8:1)
...
AAF 15 (9:7)
**UTSM 16-FB move to here
SM:PL (18:1 - 19:1)-FB
AAF 15 (10:1 - 10:2)
As the FB in UTSM 16 (1) shows Spidey wallcrawling up at the top of his window, and AF 15 (9:7) shows him well above, almost at the roof, the FB should be split with UTSM 16 (1) before AAF 15 (9:7) and UTSM 16 (2:1) after. And the as yet unindexed ASM 641 (10:3)-FB showing him actually climbing out the window, will come before both

PPTSS 60/2 (13:6)
AAF 15 (9:6)
PPTSS 60/2 (13:8)
**[ASM 641 (10:3)-FB] on lower window sill
**UTSM 16 (1)-FB at top of window
AAF 15 (9:7) above window
**UTSM 16 (2:1)-FB swinging away
SM:PL (18:1 - 19:1)-FB

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