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Guardians of the Galaxy

Post by michel » Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:41 am

I already had spotted M/PRS 11-12 was missing in the MCP, now I've checked all the books, some FB are also missing, some mistakes like MSM 23 listed twice for Major Victory. Here is what I have :

STARHAWK/STAKAR
* M/PRS 9-FB (9-12) added : Commander Ogord finds a baby, adopts him, presents him to his wike and daughter
* M/PRS 9-FB (13-14) added : 1000 years ago, Stakar and Aleta find the Hawk-God
* M/PRS 10-FB (7-16:4) added : Stakar, Aleta and the Hawk-God become Starhawk
* M/PRS 11-FB (6:8-6:9) added : 500 years ago, Starkhawk attacks an arcturian ship
DEF 27
DEF 28
DEF 29
M/PRS 3
M/PRS 4
M/PRS 5
M/PRS 6
M/PRS 7
M/PRS 8
M/PRS 9
* M/PRS 10 added
* M/PRS 11 added
* M/PRS 12 added
T@ 6
A 167
A 168
A 170
A 173
A 175
A 176
A 177
KS
A 181
* MSM 23-BTS added
M/TU 86
M/TIO 61
M/TIO 62 (1 - 16)
H2 266 (10:1)-FB
M/TIO 62 (17)
M/TIO 63
M/TIO 69
...

STARHAWK II/ALETA OGORD
* M/PRS 9-FB (12:4-12:6) added
* M/PRS 9-FB (13-14) added
* M/PRS 10-FB (7-16:4) added
DEF 29
M/PRS 4
M/PRS 6
M/PRS 7
M/PRS 8
M/PRS 9
M/PRS 10
* M/PRS 11 added
A 168
M/TIO 62
M/TIO 63
...

OGORD, COMMANDER (added)
M/PRS 9-FB (10:6-12)
M/PRS 10-FB (15:3-16:4)
M/PRS 11-FB-BTS (7:1-7:2) Ogord orders Starhawk's children are taken prisoner
M/PRS 9
M/PRS 10
M/PRS 11
M/PRS 12

OGORD, JOHN ; OGORD, SITA ; OGORD, TARA
DEF 29
M/PRS 4
* M/PRS 11-FB (7:1-7:2) added
M/PRS 9
M/PRS 10
* M/PRS 11 added (die)

CHARLIE-27, CAPTAIN
M/SH 18
M/TIO 5
GSDEF 5
DEF 26
DEF 27
DEF 28
DEF 29
M/PRS 3
M/PRS 4
M/PRS 5
M/PRS 6
M/PRS 7
M/PRS 8
M/PRS 9
M/PRS 10
* M/PRS 11 added
* M/PRS 12 added
T@ 6
A 167
A 170
A 173
A 175
A 177
KS
A 181
MSM 23-BTS
* M/TU 86 to be deleted
M/TIO 61-BTS
M/TIO 69-FB
* M/TIO 69 FB removed
...

MAJOR VICTORY/MAJ. VANCE ASTRO
M/SH 18-FB
DEF 26-FB-BTS
M/SH 18
M/TIO 69-FB
M/TIO 5
GSDEF 5
DEF 26
DEF 27
DEF 28
DEF 29
M/PRS 3
M/PRS 4
M/PRS 5
M/PRS 6
M/PRS 7
M/PRS 8
M/PRS 9
M/PRS 10
* M/PRS 11 added
* M/PRS 12 added
T@ 6
* MSM 23 to be deleted
* M/TU 86 to be deleted
A 167
A 173
A 177-BTS
MSM 23
M/TIO 61-BTS
M/TIO 69
...

MARTINEX/DR. MARTINEX T'NAGA
DEF 26-FB
M/SH 18
M/TIO 5
DEF 26
DEF 27
DEF 28
DEF 29
M/PRS 3
M/PRS 4
M/PRS 5
M/PRS 6
M/PRS 7
M/PRS 8
M/PRS 9
M/PRS 10
* M/PRS 11 added
* M/PRS 12 added
T@ 6
A 167
* A 170 added
A 175
A 177
KS
A 181
* MSM 23-BTS added
M/TU 86
M/TIO 61-BTS
M/TIO 69-FB
M/TIO 69
...

NIKKI/NICHOLETTE GOLD
M/PRS 4-FB
M/PRS 4
M/PRS 5
M/PRS 6
M/PRS 7
M/PRS 8
M/PRS 9
M/PRS 10
* M/PRS 11 added
* M/PRS 12 added
T@ 6
A 167
A 170
A 173
A 175-BTS
A 177
KS
A 181
MSM 23-BTS
M/TU 86
M/TIO 61-BTS
M/TIO 69-FB
M/TIO 69
...

YONDU/YONDU UDONTA
DEF 26-FB
{M/SH 18}
M/TIO 5
GSDEF 5
DEF 26
DEF 27
DEF 28
DEF 29
M/PRS 3
M/PRS 4
M/PRS 5
M/PRS 6
M/PRS 7
M/PRS 8
M/PRS 9
M/PRS 10
* M/PRS 11 added
* M/PRS 12 added
T@ 6
A 167
* A 170 added
A 177
KS
A 181
* MSM 23-BTS added
M/TIO 69-FB
M/TIO 69

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Re: Guardians of the Galaxy

Post by michel » Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:49 pm

I've spotted a problem : Thor meets the Guardians of the Galaxy in T@ 6, then recognizes them in A 167. For the Guardians, T@ 6 is correctly before A 167. But for Thor, it's after :

THOR
A 166
A 175-FB
SVTU 14
A@ 7
M/TIO@ 2
CM 57
A 167
A 168
T 260
T 261
T 262
T 263
T 264
T 265
T 266
A 170
A 171
A 172
M/TU 69
M/TU 70
A 172-BTS
T@ 6
T 267
T 268
A 173

I know the Collector moved Thor in the time to help the Avengers, but I don't see it mentioned in the recent index, and I won't be able to check the book until next week-end. What do you think ?

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Re: Guardians of the Galaxy

Post by Paul Bourcier » Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:12 am

You're right. Looking back at my notes, before and after appearances of Thor listed in OMITTA 3 suggest that T@ 6 occurs between M/TIO 23 and T 255. I've placed this annual between T 253 and 255. That puts it before A 167, which makes sense.
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Re: Guardians of the Galaxy

Post by michel » Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:45 pm

Fine for me. Thanks Paul

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Re: Guardians of the Galaxy

Post by Paul Bourcier » Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:34 pm

I think we're going to place T@ 6 just before A@ 7 in Thor's chronology. Ward's Index remembered T@ 6 when it came to the Guardians' chronologies, but seems to have omitted it from Thor's chronology.
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Re: Guardians of the Galaxy

Post by michel » Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:13 pm

sigh, I'm not finished with the Guardians. For Martinex, Nikki and Starhawk, M/TU 86 is after A 181. But for Black Panther, M/TU 87 is before A 181

BLACK PANTHER V/T'CHALLA
A 177
KS
A@ 8
M/TU 87
A 179
A 180
A 181

In this period, some M/TU issues are out of order, but not here :

SPIDER-MAN/PETER BENJAMIN PARKER
M/TU 90
M/TU@ 2
M/TU 86
M/TU 87

M/TU 88
M/TU 89

I checked M/TU 86 last week-end, if I remember well it's about the localization of a satellite, I think it's safe to put it in between KS and A 181. Thoughts ?

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Re: Guardians of the Galaxy

Post by Michael » Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:22 pm

Both Olshevsky's Marvel Team-Up Index 5 and Ward's Avengers Index 4 place M/TU 86 in between A 177 and A 181.
And M/TU 86 is currently placed in Peter's chronology before ASM 190, which takes place concurrently with A 181, so it would have to take place before A 181.

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Re: Guardians of the Galaxy

Post by michel » Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:05 pm

Michael wrote:Both Olshevsky's Marvel Team-Up Index 5 and Ward's Avengers Index 4 place M/TU 86 in between A 177 and A 181.
And M/TU 86 is currently placed in Peter's chronology before ASM 190, which takes place concurrently with A 181, so it would have to take place before A 181.
Thanks, Michael. Then, proposed chronologies :

STARHAWK/STAKAR
* M/PRS 9-FB (9-12) added : Commander Ogord finds a baby, adopts him, presents him to his wike and daughter
* M/PRS 9-FB (13-14) added : 1000 years ago, Stakar and Aleta find the Hawk-God
* M/PRS 10-FB (7-16:4) added : Stakar, Aleta and the Hawk-God become Starhawk
* M/PRS 11-FB (6:8-6:9) added : 500 years ago, Starkhawk attacks an arcturian ship
DEF 27
DEF 28
DEF 29
M/PRS 3
M/PRS 4
M/PRS 5
M/PRS 6
M/PRS 7
M/PRS 8
M/PRS 9
* M/PRS 10 added
* M/PRS 11 added
* M/PRS 12 added
T@ 6
A 167
A 168
A 170
A 173
A 175
A 176
A 177
KS
** M/TU 86 moved here
A 181
* MSM 23-BTS added
** M/TU 86 moved from here
M/TIO 61
M/TIO 62 (1 - 16)
H2 266 (10:1)-FB
M/TIO 62 (17)
M/TIO 63
M/TIO 69
...

MARTINEX/DR. MARTINEX T'NAGA
DEF 26-FB
M/SH 18
M/TIO 5
DEF 26
DEF 27
DEF 28
DEF 29
M/PRS 3
M/PRS 4
M/PRS 5
M/PRS 6
M/PRS 7
M/PRS 8
M/PRS 9
M/PRS 10
* M/PRS 11 added
* M/PRS 12 added
T@ 6
A 167
* A 170 added
A 175
A 177
KS
** M/TU 86 moved here
A 181
* MSM 23-BTS added
** M/TU 86 moved from here
M/TIO 61-BTS
M/TIO 69-FB
M/TIO 69
...

NIKKI/NICHOLETTE GOLD
M/PRS 4-FB
M/PRS 4
M/PRS 5
M/PRS 6
M/PRS 7
M/PRS 8
M/PRS 9
M/PRS 10
* M/PRS 11 added
* M/PRS 12 added
T@ 6
A 167
A 170
A 173
A 175-BTS
A 177
KS
** M/TU 86 moved here
A 181
MSM 23-BTS
** M/TU 86 moved from here
M/TIO 61-BTS
M/TIO 69-FB
M/TIO 69
...

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Re: Guardians of the Galaxy

Post by Paul Bourcier » Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:20 pm

Yes, Ward's Index does place M/TU 86 before A 181. Is there a reason M/TU 86 was moved to after A 181?
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