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Post by Col_Fury » Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:51 am

Remember the 1602 miniseries from ten years ago? In it, a Captain America from the future (a future where Purple Man becomes the US president, called Earth-460 in the handbooks) is sent to the past. Uatu the Watcher (the Marvel Universe, Earth-616 one) says that Cap was sent to the past of Earth-616, but his arrival affected time so that the age of heroes started four hundred years too early. After some shenanigans, Cap is sent back to the future and the timeline resets itself. However, all of this business caused a divergence and the 1602 universe continues to exist separate from Earth-616 (called Earth-311 in the handbooks). There were three follow-up minis and a story in Hulk: Broken Worlds #2.

Not all of these characters have full names. They’re obviously new versions of existing characters, but because many names are similar to but slightly different from their Marvel Universe counterparts, there’s no way we can assume they have the same names as their Marvel Universe counterparts.

Speaking of names, the 1602 Spider-Man counterpart is named “Peter Parquagh” in 1602 #1, but Spider-Man 1602 #3 reveals this is an alias given to Peter by Sir Nicholas Fury; his real name is Peter Parker and he goes back to using the Parker name in Spider-Man 1602.

The 1602: New World mini ends with Banner turning into Hulk and threatening to kill King James. However, 1602: Fantastick Four, published after New World, has appearances by a still alive King James. BUT, Spider-Man 1602 #3, published after Fantastick Four, confirms that Hulk did indeed kill King James immediately after New World. So despite FF being published after NW, FF occurs before NW. The only affected character is King James.

Spider-Man 1602 #3 is full of revelations!

Despite the mini being called “Spider-Man 1602,” he’s only called “the Spider” through the various series.

For the key:

HULK: BROKEN WORLDS - H:BW (already in the key)
MARVEL 1602 - 1602
MARVEL 1602: FANTASTICK FOUR - 1602:FF
MARVEL 1602: NEW WORLD - 1602:NW
SPIDER-MAN 1602 - 1602:SM

And the chronologies:

ANCIENT ONE | 1602-VERSE
1602 4-FB

ANGEL/WERNER | 1602-VERSE
1602 1
1602 2
1602 3
1602 4
1602 5
1602 6
1602 7
1602 8

BULL’S EYE | 1602-VERSE
1602:SM 2
1602:SM 3
1602:SM 5

CAPTAIN AMERICA/STEVEN ROGERS/”ROJHAZ” | PRESIDENT PURPLE MAN
1602 8-FB
1602 4-FB
{1602 1}
1602 2
1602 3
1602 4
1602 5
1602 7
1602 8

CAPTAIN AMERICA/STEVE ROGERS | 1602-VERSE
1602:SM 5

CONNORS, CURTIS | 1602-VERSE
1602:SM 3
1602:SM 4
1602:SM 5

DARE, GOV. ANANIAS | 1602-VERSE
1602 4-FB
1602 8
1602:NW 1
1602:NW 2
1602:NW 3
1602:NW 4
1602:NW 5
1602:SM 1

DARE, VIRGINIA
1602 8

DARE, VIRGINIA | 1602-VERSE
1602 4-FB
{1602 1}
1602 2
1602 3
1602 4
1602 5
1602 7
1602 8
1602:NW 1
1602:NW 2
1602:NW 3
1602:NW 4
1602:NW 5
1602:SM 1

DAREDEVIL/MATT MURDOCK | PRESIDENT PURPLE MAN
1602 8-FB

DEVIL/MATTHEW MURDOCH | 1602-VERSE
1602-FB
{1602 1}
1602 2
1602 3
1602 4
1602 5
1602 6
1602 8

DILONG | 1602-VERSE
H:BW 2/3

DONAL | 1602-VERSE
1602 1-FB
1602 4
1602 5
1602 6
1602 8

DOUGAN, CAPT. | 1602-VERSE
1602 5
1602 6
1602:NW 2
1602:NW 3
1602:NW 4
1602:NW 5

EVANS, DORIS | 1602-VERSE
1602:FF 2
1602:FF 3
1602:FF 4
1602:FF 5

FURY, SIR NICHOLAS | 1602-VERSE
1602 1
1602 2
1602 3
1602 4
1602 5
1602 6
1602 7
1602 8

GAIMAN, NEIL
1602 5

GRAND INQUISITOR/ENRIQUE | 1602-VERSE
1602 1
1602 2
1602 3
1602 4
1602 5
1602 6
1602 7
1602 8

GREY, JEAN/”JOHN GREY” | 1602-VERSE
1602 1
1602 2
1602 3
1602 4
1602 5
1602 6
1602 7

GRIMM, CAPT. BENJAMIN | 1602-VERSE
1602 5-FB
1602 4-OP
1602 6
1602 7
1602 8
1602:FF 1
1602:FF 2
1602:FF 3
1602:FF 4
1602:FF 5

HULK/DAVID BANNER | 1602-VERSE
1602:NW 4-FB
{1602 2}
1602 4
1602 5
1602 7
1602 8
1602:NW 1
1602:NW 2
1602:NW 3
1602:NW 4
1602:NW 5
H:BW 2/3

JAMESON, JONAH | 1602-VERSE
1602:NW 1
1602:NW 2
1602:NW 3
1602:NW 4
1602:NW 5
1602:SM 1

JANETTE | 1602-VERSE
1602:SM 1
1602:SM 4
1602:SM 5

JAVIER, CARLOS | 1602-VERSE
1602 2
1602 3
1602 4
1602 5
1602 6
1602 7
1602 8

KING JAMES | 1602-VERSE
1602 2
1602 4
1602 5
1602 6-BTS
1602 7
1602 8
1602:FF 1
1602:FF 2-BTS
1602:NW 2
1602:NW 5

KING’S PIN/WILSON FISKE | 1602-VERSE
1602:SM 2

KRANG | 1602-VERSE
1602:FF 4

KUBERT, ANDY
CA3 21
1602 5

LE PYM, DR. HENRI | 1602-VERSE
1602:SM 1
1602:SM 3
1602:SM 4
1602:SM 5

LORD IRON | 1602-VERSE
1602:NW 4-FB
{1602:NW 2}
1602:NW 3
1602:NW 4
1602:NW 5

LORD MARINER/NUMENOR | 1602-VERSE
1602:FF 4
1602:FF 5

MCCOY, HENRY “HAL” | 1602-VERSE
1602 2
1602 3
1602 4
1602 5
1602 6
1602 7
1602 8
1602:SM 1
1602:SM 3

MEDUSA | 1602-VERSE
1602:FF 1-FB
1602:FF 1
1602:FF 2
1602:FF 3
1602:FF 4
1602:FF 5

NELSON, CAPT. | 1602-VERSE
1602 1

OCTOPUS/BARON VICTOR OCTAVIUS | 1602-VERSE
1602:SM 1
1602:SM 3
1602:SM 4
1602:SM 5

OSBORNE, NORMAN | 1602-VERSE
1602:NW 2
1602:NW 3
1602:NW 4
1602:NW 5
1602:SM 1
1602:SM 2
1602:SM 3
1602:SM 4
1602:SM 5

PETROS | 1602-VERSE
1602 1
1602 2
1602 4
1602 5
1602 6
1602 7
1602 8

PURPLE MAN | PRESIDENT PURPLE MAN
1602 8-FB

QUEEN ELIZABETH | 1602-VERSE
1602 1
1602 2
1602 3

REED, SIR RICHARD | 1602-VERSE
1602 5-FB
1602 4-VO
1602 5
1602 6
1602 7
1602 8
1602:FF 1
1602:FF 2
1602:FF 3
1602:FF 4
1602:FF 5

RHODES | 1602-VERSE
1602:NW 4
1602:NW 5

RITA | 1602-VERSE
1602:FF 4
1602:FF 5

ROMANOVA, NATASHA | 1602-VERSE
1602 2
1602 3
1602 4
1602 5
1602 6
1602:FF 1
1602:FF 2

ROSS, CAPT. | 1602-VERSE
1602:NW 3
1602:NW 4
1602:NW 5

SANDMAN/MARKO | 1602-VERSE
1602:FF 1-FB
1602:FF 1-BTS
1602:FF 2
1602:FF 3
1602:FF 4
1602:FF 5

SHAKESPEARE, WILLIAM | 1602-VERSE
1602:FF 1
1602:FF 2
1602:FF 3
1602:FF 4
1602:FF 5

SPIDER/PETER PARKER/”PETER PARQUAGH” | 1602-VERSE
1602 1
1602 2
1602 3
1602 4
1602 5
1602 7
1602 8
1602:NW 1
1602:NW 2
1602:NW 3
1602:NW 4
1602:NW 5
1602:SM 1
1602:SM 2
1602:SM 3
1602:SM 4
1602:SM 5

SPIDER-MAN/PETER PARKER | PRESIDENT PURPLE MAN
1602 8-FB

STACEY, CAPT. | 1602-VERSE
1602:SM 2

STORM, JOHNNIE | 1602-VERSE
1602 5-FB
{1602 4}
1602 6
1602 7
1602 8
1602:FF 1
1602:FF 2
1602:FF 3
1602:FF 4
1602:FF 5

STORM, SUSAN | 1602-VERSE
1602 5-FB
1602 4-BTS
1602 5-OP
1602 6
1602 7
1602 8
1602:FF 1
1602:FF 2
1602:FF 3
1602:FF 4
1602:FF 5

STRANGE, CLEA | 1602-VERSE
1602 1
1602 2
1602 3
1602 4
1602 5
1602 7
1602 8

STRANGE, DR. STEPHEN | 1602-VERSE
1602 4-FB
{1602 1}
1602 2
1602 3
1602 4
1602 5
1602 6
1602 7
1602 8

SUMMERISLE, SCOTIUS | 1602-VERSE
1602 1
1602 2
1602 3
1602 4
1602 5
1602 6
1602 7
1602 8

THOMPSON | 1602-VERSE
1602:SM 3

THOR | 1602-VERSE
1602 6
1602 7
1602 8

TOAD | 1602-VERSE
1602 5
1602 6
1602 7
1602 8

TRAPSTER | 1602-VERSE
1602:FF 1-FB
1602:FF 1-BTS
1602:FF 2
1602:FF 3
1602:FF 4
1602:FF 5

TREFASIS, ROBERT | 1602-VERSE
1602 1
1602 2
1602 3
1602 4
1602 5
1602 6
1602 7
1602 8

UATU [WATCHER]
TOS 53/3-FB
TOS 54/3
*1602 3
*1602 5
*1602 6
*1602 8
*1602:FF 5
CV 2-FB


VON DOOM, COUNT OTTO | 1602-VERSE
1602 2
1602 3-BTS
1602 4
1602 5
1602 6
1602:FF 1-BTS
1602:FF 2
1602:FF 3
1602:FF 4
1602:FF 5

WANDA | 1602-VERSE
1602 1
1602 2
1602 4
1602 5
1602 6-BTS
1602 7
1602 8

WATSONNE, GRAEME | 1602-VERSE
1602:SM 3
1602:SM 4
1602:SM 5

WATSONNE, MARIONE JANE | 1602-VERSE
1602:SM 3
1602:SM 4
1602:SM 5

WINGFOOT | 1602-VERSE
1602:FF 2-BTS
1602:FF 5

WIZARD | 1602-VERSE
1602:FF 1-FB
1602:FF 1
1602:FF 2
1602:FF 3
1602:FF 4
1602:FF 5
-Daron Jensen

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