UX #350 - who wrote it?

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UX #350 - who wrote it?

Post by JephYork » Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:15 am

Apparently, at some point in the past, Steve Seagle stated that Scott Lobdell already wrote part of UX #350 before he began.

Does anybody know WHERE he said this? I'd like to notate this in the Index if I can.

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Re: UX #350 - who wrote it?

Post by JD » Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:21 am

I've looked around on Usenet archives, and found this second-hand statement :
Steve Seagle wrote:I actually helped UCX350 out of being even later from what I understand. I wrote the plot quickly (three months after the plot was due) and turned around dialogue fairly quickly.
Interestingly, it seems to lead into the opposite direction...

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Re: UX #350 - who wrote it?

Post by Somebody » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:47 pm

Well, under "second-hand statements", Paul O'Brien lists Lobdell as an uncredited co-plotter here, because:
http://www.thexaxis.com/indexes/uncannyxmen/350.htm wrote:First of all, for anyone who's wondering, I've listed Scott Lobdell as an uncredited co-writer on this story because Steve Seagle's comments on Usenet after the issue came out included the explanation that part of the issue had already been written, and indeed drawn, before he got near it. Certainly several of Lobdell's ideas did make it into the final storyline.
Right, gone through the google racmx archive for the right period. The issue was apparently four weeks late (after #349 was two weeks late), which didn't help. [Neither has the fact that the standard of internet discourse was no better then than it is now - people speculating Magneto was Stryfe, that Rachel Summers was in Heroes Return #3, etc. :)], and can't find anything more offhand.

Howevah, for some more second-hand web stuff:
http://notblogx.blogspot.com/2009/04/uncanny-x-men-350-december-1997.html wrote:This is obviously a mess, and it’s something Marvel had to do a fair amount of backtracking on in subsequent years. It’s interesting that no one is credited for actually plotting this story (Seagle is only listed as “scripter”). Seagle was originally hired to replace Larry Hama on Wolverine, but was asked to take over UXM when Lobdell abruptly disappeared. His first issue was supposed to be #351, I believe, but he was brought in at the last minute to finish this one. He apparently claimed on Usenet that he was finishing the issue Lobdell started, which leads me to believe what we’re reading is a Lobdell plot heavily rewritten by editorial, then given to Seagle to script.
http://www.geocities.com/lwhomer.geo/LorendiacSuperheroWritings/XMenFatality4th.html wrote:1997. Uncanny X-Men #350. Written by Steve Seagle, according to the official credits – but Seagle reportedly has said that his predecessor, Scott Lobdell, did a fair piece of the writing and plotting on this issue before Seagle ever got involved as he started his own run on the title.
Personally, I *know* I've read Lobdell saying that some of the issue was his, but that "Erik the Red" definitely wasn't...

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Re: UX #350 - who wrote it?

Post by JephYork » Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:36 pm

While we're tracking down internet statements from creators, can anyone help me out with some more detail on the following?

In 2000, Claremont reportedly intended to re-introduce Stryfe into the X-books, have him mentally take over all the Summers and Greys (Cyclops, Havok, Cable, Phoenix, Rachel), and force the other X-Men out of the mansion. However, the plotline was never brought to fruition. Can anyone help me find the interview or posting where he reportedly revealed this?

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Re: UX #350 - who wrote it?

Post by Somebody » Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:54 pm

Got it:
Chris Claremont, [url]http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/forums/showpost.php?p=522964&postcount=251[/url] (excerpt) wrote:
Ryking wrote: CC-

Back in Uncanny X-Men #384, Jean Grey and Cable are attacked on the astral plane by an as yet unrevealed foe. Who did you intend for this to be? I always thought it was the Shadow King.
Dear Ryking:

It was mant to be Stryfe, as a precursor to the arc that would close-out 2000, wherein the X-Men and Xavier would be "evicted" by the Summers Clan (Stryfe, Scott, Cable, Alex, Jean and Rachel) who would present the School to the public as th Summers School for mutants. They would control "X-Men" and the fugitive team (think about it, how would you *could* you fight adversaries who comprise four of the most powerful psis in Creation, plus two (Cyke & Cable) of the pre-eminent tsctical and strategic strategists?) would be on the run in "Uncanny." And that would be the status quo until #400, when things would get really squirrelly.
Chris Claremont, [url]http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/forums/showpost.php?p=526956&postcount=300[/url] wrote:
perceval wrote:I don't know... I usually love Chris's ideas, but this one sounded a bit... forced with the characters. I really can't picture Cable being able to forgive Stryfe, let alone work with him, and I can't picture Scott and especially Jean booting everyone out like that, unless Nate or Rachel knew something from their bouncing around the timestream that made these actions neccessary.
Dear Perceval:

What makes you think that Stryfe would have given any of them a choice in the matter? He's a *villain* for God's sake! We're talking conflict here, a Civil War / War of the Roses between the Lancasters and the Yorks of the House of Mutants!

So much for that idea.

Cordially,
Chris Claremont
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