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Cage! #1-4

Post by Col_Fury » Sat May 06, 2017 1:48 pm

CAGE! #1 (December 2016)
By Genndy Tartakovsky

APPEARANCES:
Power Man (Luke Cage), Bank Rollers (bank robbers on roller skates), Mr. Chow (restaurant owner), Cyclops, Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Chemistro, Gideon Mace, X the Marvel, Black Mariah, Mr. Fish, Mr. Lion, Mr. Tiger (both in shadows), bystanders

SYNOPSIS:
Cage beats up some bank robbers, then goes to meet Misty Knight but she never shows. He looks for her at the police station but the place is empty; he learns from someone in a holding cell that all the heroes and police have vanished. Cage looks for Misty at her apartment, but is ambushed by the X-Men, who are looking for Jean Grey (Wolverine reminds Cyclops that she’s dead; Cyclops replies with basically an “Oh, that’s right”). Cage is attacked by a group of his villains, but he escapes. Cage is then ambushed by two shadowy figures.

CAGE! #2 (January 2017)
By Genndy Tartakovsky

APPEARANCES:
Power Man (Luke Cage), Mr. Lion, Mr. Tiger, Professor Soos (vo)

SYNOPSIS:
Cage wakes up on an island and runs from Mr. Lion and Mr. Tiger. He breathes some pollen from some flowers and starts to hallucinate.

CAGE! #3 (February 2017)
By Genndy Tartakovsky

APPEARANCES:
Power Man (Luke Cage), Mr. Lion, Mr. Tiger, Mr. Monkey, Professor Soos, Brother Voodoo (& Daniel Drumm’s ghost), Iron Fist, Ghost Rider, Dazzler, Misty Knight, Black Panther

SYNOPSIS:
Cage wakes up and learns that Professor Soos has captured him and other heroes to fight his creations (Mr. Lion, Mr. Tiger, Mr. Monkey). When the tournament begins, Misty Knight and Iron Fist both lose, but Cage wins.

CAGE! #4 (March 2017)
By Genndy Tartakovsky

APPEARANCES:
Power Man (Luke Cage), Mr. Hippopotamus, Mr. Alligator, Mr. Monkey, Mr. Tiger, Mr. Walrus, Brother Voodoo (& Daniel Drumm’s ghost), Iron Fist, Ghost Rider, Dazzler, Misty Knight, Black Panther, Colossus, Hawkeye, Wonder Man, Scarlet Witch, Spider-Man, Thor, Captain America, Doctor Strange, Moondragon, Giant-Man (Bill Foster), Mr. Fantastic, Iron Man, Thing, Human Torch, Invisible Girl, Beast, Cyclops

SYNOPSIS:
The other heroes lose their fights but Cage wins his. The prize for winning the tournament is fighting Professor Soos, so Cage eventually beats him up as well. When Cage gets back home to New York City, he finds a surprise party thrown for him by his super hero friends.

NOTE:
A tale from the past! But from when in the past? The comic says “1977,” but given the X-Men that can’t be right. Power Man & Iron Fist is one of the spotty parts of my collection, so…
loki wrote:Cage knows Misty Knight. Cage met Misty in Power Man #48 (Dec 77), just around when he met Iron Fist. The X-Men show up and claim Jean Grey is dead, with a note citing X-Men #137, Sept 80. But Cyclops is with them, and he left the X-Men after Jean's funeral, and didn't return until Uncanny X-Men #150 (Oct 81), which places it after Power Man and Iron Fist #74 (same month), or, more accurately PM&IF #75 (#74 led directly into #75). Ghost Rider is in #3 - he was depowered in Ghost Rider #81 (June 83). We have a window the story can fit into, between the comics released in Oct 81 and June 83.
There are some other odd bits here that loki points out, mostly in #1 (I’m paraphrasing this bit):
loki (kind of) wrote:Cage and Misty seem to be dating here, but it’s not stated outright (Misty was with Iron Fist at the time). Cage tries to find Misty at a police station, but she hadn’t been an officer for quite a while by the time Cage met her; but, she could have kept in contact with old acquaintances (and it’s already established that she did stay in touch with her old partner, so there’s that). The X-Men seem to expect to find Jean at Misty’s apartment, but Jean was roommates with Colleen Wing, not Misty; but they were friends, so I guess it’s not out of the question to look for her at Misty’s place.
Iron Fist and Colleen Wing aren’t given much mention in this series, but that’s not a big deal; they just aren’t important to this story. Odd, sure, but whatever.

For villains, the Chemistro appearing here would be Archie Morton and Mr. Fish would be the brother, not the original.

Those are all the questionable bits I see, but I don’t think they’re problematic. Wolverine’s in his brown costume, which he didn’t start wearing until after Jean’s funeral and after Cyclops left the X-Men. That means right after Jean’s death is out, and closer to the window loki suggests. So, we’re looking at a year-and-a-half long window to place this thing (end of ’81 to mid ’83). That roughly translates to sometime between ROM 23 and M/GN 1, which is early ’82.

Placement suggestions:

BEAST/HENRY "HANK" P. MCCOY
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A 211
*CAGE! 4
M/GN 1
……

BLACK MARIAH
LCHFH 5
*CAGE! 1
PM&IF 88

BLACK PANTHER V/T'CHALLA/"OKONKWO"
……
A 211
*CAGE! 3
*CAGE! 4
M/GN 1
……

BROTHER VOODOO II/JERICHO DRUMM
……
M/TIO 41
*CAGE! 3
*CAGE! 4
DS2 48
……

CAPTAIN AMERICA/STEVE ROGERS
……
ROM 23
*CAGE! 4
M/GN 1 (1 - 37)
……

CHEMISTRO II/ARCH MORTON
……
PM 39
*CAGE! 1

COLOSSUS III/PIOTR NIKOLAIEVITCH "PETER" RASPUTIN
……
MICRO 37
*CAGE! 4
UX 153
……

CYCLOPS II/SCOTT SUMMERS
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UX 152
*CAGE! 1
*CAGE! 4
UX 153
……

DAZZLER II/ALISON BLAIRE
……
DAZZ 12
*CAGE! 3
*CAGE! 4
DAZZ 13
……

DOCTOR STRANGE/DR. STEPHEN VINCENT STRANGE/"STEPHEN SANDERS"
……
MICRO 35
*CAGE! 4
M/GN 1
……

DRUMM, DANIEL
……
M/TIO 41
*CAGE! 3
*CAGE! 4
DS2 48
……

GHOST RIDER XXXIV/JOHNNY BLAZE
……
GR2 62
*CAGE! 3
*CAGE! 4
SS3 14-FB
……

GIANT-MAN II/DR. WILLIAM BARRETT FOSTER
……
M/TIO 76
*CAGE! 4
M/TIO 81
……

HAWKEYE/CLINTON FRANCIS BARTON
……
A 211
*CAGE! 4
DEF 107
……

HUMAN TORCH II/JOHNNY STORM
……
ROM 23
*CAGE! 4
M/GN 1
……

INVISIBLE GIRL/SUE STORM RICHARDS
……
ROM 23
*CAGE! 4
SS3 14-FB
……

IRON FIST VIII/DANIEL RAND
……
PM&IF 76
*CAGE! 3
*CAGE! 4
DD 178
……

IRON MAN/ANTHONY EDWARD "TONY" STARK
……
IM 153
*CAGE! 4
M/GN 1 (1 - 37)
……

KNIGHT, MERCEDES "MISTY"
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PM&IF 76
*CAGE! 3
*CAGE! 4
PM&IF 78
……

MACE/COL. GIDEON MACE
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PPSSM 52
*CAGE! 1

MOONDRAGON/HEATHER DOUGLAS/"H.D. STECKLEY"
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T 314
*CAGE! 4
M/GN 1
……

MR. ALLIGATOR
CAGE! 4

MR. FANTASTIC/REED RICHARDS
……
ROM 23
*CAGE! 4
M/GN 1
……

MR. FISH/MORTIMER GEORGE NORRIS
PM 29
**SHDWL:PM 2 (delete)

MR. FISH II/WILLIAM NORRIS
*CAGE! 1
{DOD 4}
*SHDWL:PM 2

MR. HIPPOPOTAMUS
CAGE! 4

MR. LION
CAGE! 1
CAGE! 2
CAGE! 3

MR. MONKEY
CAGE! 3
CAGE! 4

MR. TIGER
CAGE! 1
CAGE! 2
CAGE! 3
CAGE! 4

MR. WALRUS
CAGE! 4

NIGHTCRAWLER/KURT WAGNER
……
MICRO 37
*CAGE! 1
UX 153
……

POWER MAN II/CARL LUCAS/"LUKE CAGE"
……
PM&IF 76/2
*CAGE! 1
*CAGE! 2
*CAGE! 3
*CAGE! 4
DD 178
……

PROFESSOR SOOS
CAGE! 2-VO
CAGE! 3
CAGE! 4

SCARLET WITCH/WANDA MAXIMOFF
……
A 211
*CAGE! 4
M/GN 1
……

SPIDER-MAN/PETER BENJAMIN PARKER
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PPSSM 62
*CAGE! 4
ASM 224
……

THING II/BENJAMIN J. GRIMM
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ROM 23
*CAGE! 4
SS3 14-FB
……

THOR/THOR ODINSON/"DR. DONALD BLAKE"/"SIGURD JARLSON"/"JAKE OLSON"/"LOREN OLSON"
……
T 314
*CAGE! 4
M/TU 115
……

WOLVERINE/"LOGAN"/JAMES HOWLETT
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MICRO 37
*CAGE! 1
UX 153
……

WONDER MAN/SIMON WILLIAMS
……
A 211
*CAGE! 4
M/GN 1
……

X THE MARVEL/WILLIE DANCE
PM 27-FB
PM 27
CAGE! 1

ZARATHOS
……
GR2 62
*CAGE! 3
*CAGE! 4
SS3 14-FB
……
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Re: Cage! #1-4

Post by Jason Doty » Sat May 06, 2017 10:28 pm

Jean Grey was roomates with Misty Knight and not Colleen Wing. I think you got that reversed. Also, while Cyclops left the team in UX 138, he is not seen until Christmas in Florida in UX 143. Why not between UX 140 and 141. Cyclops does not have to be with the team in order for his friends check up on him, and it would make more since to be closer to Jean's death.

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Re: Cage! #1-4

Post by Col_Fury » Sun May 07, 2017 3:50 am

Jason Doty wrote:Jean Grey was roomates with Misty Knight and not Colleen Wing. I think you got that reversed.
Huh. Yeah, Jean was Misty's roommate. And after Jean died, Harmony Young was Misty's roommate. Thanks!
Jason Doty wrote:Also, while Cyclops left the team in UX 138, he is not seen until Christmas in Florida in UX 143. Why not between UX 140 and 141. Cyclops does not have to be with the team in order for his friends check up on him, and it would make more since to be closer to Jean's death.
It would make more sense, but people are weird sometimes. Cyclops knows Jean's dead in CAGE! #1, but I'm assuming that he's reacting emotionally here (emotions are often the opposite of sense, right?). Besides, UX 143 makes it clear Cyclops hasn't been in touch with pretty much anyone since Jean's funeral, let alone the X-Men. Putting any adventures where Cyclops is in costume after X 138 and before UX 143 kind of defeats that point.

If Wolverine were in his tiger stripe uniform, we could put this before the funeral. But then, it takes a while to get over someone's death. Cyclops is still just dealing with his issues here, is all. Depending on how one reads it. :)
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Re: Cage! #1-4

Post by loki » Sun May 07, 2017 7:08 am

Jason Doty wrote:Jean Grey was roomates with Misty Knight and not Colleen Wing. I think you got that reversed.
Darn. That was my error, rather than Col. Fury's. Yes, I totally misremembered that one, getting the roommate thing mixed up because Colleen dated Scott. Doesn't impact on the chronological placement comments, and actually clears one of the things I thought was problematic. Thanks!

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