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Conspiracy #1-2

Post by wolframbane » Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:33 pm

Here is my review for the CONSPIRACY mini-series. Thanks to Enda for getting me interested in this series and for posting some of his own notes. This series was fun as it held many revelations of the Silver Age. I also want to thank Col_Fury for his WWII notes and Paul Bourcier for his feedback .

The modern portions of the story are definitely canon. However, the flashbacks and revelations may be suspect, not because the story may or may not be non-canon, but because most of the revelations are told by General Harrison or the Cliff Garner LMD, and may be actual facts, or lies and misinformation, or delusions on the part of Harrison. For the purposes of the chronology, I will assume they these events actually happened (they do not actually conflict with any established events).

CONSPIRACY #1
"Book One: Show and Tell"
February 1998
30 pages

Synopsis:
DAY ONE
Page 1-3. A battle between Spidercide and Jackal causes damage to the offices of the Daily Bugle, while reporter Mark Ewing speaks to his girlfriend Monique on the phone.
NOTES: This occurs simultaneously with MC:O. Paul Bourcier tentatively places this circa May, YEAR 18.

Page 4. After the battle, Damage Control cleans up the mess and reporter Mark Ewing finds files left behind by former reporter Cliff Garner, as well as a bank deposit box key in Punios Verde.

Page 5:1-5:2. Ewing researches Garner's history in the microfiche library.

Page 5:3. Flashback. Photograph of Garner receiving journalism award.
NOTES: Probably before Garner's reputation became strained during his research into Control.

Page 5:4-6:2. Ben Urich tells Ewing more about Garner, who had went missing "ten years ago".
NOTES: Garner probably went missing circa YEAR 8. Page 5:4 shows random photographs of the Avengers (Ant-Man, Iron Man, Hulk, Wasp and Thor), the FF (Mr. fantastic, Invisible Girl, Thing and Human Torch), the Hulk, and General Harrison.

Page 6:3-7:5. Flashback to "forty-two". Garner is a soldier at a Washington AFB when the Invaders (Captain America, Human Torch, Toro) arrive to borrow a plane to rescue Churchill in the Bermuda Triangle. The commander Slinkard decides to press charges. Garner decides to become a reporter.
NOTES: This occurs simultaneously with INV 4. Col_Fury places this circa Jan 14, 1942. Garner had told this story to Ben Urich, Robbie Robertson and Phil Sheldon (of MARVELS 1-4).

Page 8:1. Flashback. The newly formed Avengers (Giant-Man, Wasp, Iron Man, Thor) appear outside before gathered reporters including Garner.
NOTES: Due to the Avengers' costumes and the absence of the Hulk, this probably is the between A 4 (8:3) and A 4 (8:4), shortly after they found Captain America in suspended animation, and Cap is BTS on their sub. The OMITTA 1 places this circa November, YEAR 3.

Page 8:2-9:3. Flashback. Garner grows paranoid as he researches a conspiracy involving government manipulation of superhumans. Ben Urich overhears an argument between JJ Jameson and Garner about the supposed conspiracy, and Garner mentions Elias Starr (Egghead), Bruce Banner (Hulk), Thaddeus Ross, and Henry Pym (Ant-Man). Garner later goes undercover for "weeks at a time" before finally disappearing.
NOTES: Placement uncertain, sometime after Page 8:1, but before he disappeared during YEAR 8. Jameson and Urich are shown to currently be with the Daily Bugle. Page 8:4 depicts numerous photographs, including those of Captain America, Daredevil, Charles Xavier (with two other men), Phineas Horton and the original Human Torch in a stasis tube, Elias Starr (Egghead), a bandaged man, a man with glasses and others.

Page 9:4-9:5. Urich finishes talking to Ewing.

Page 10:1-11:1. That night, Ewing meets a man in a trenchcoat ("Trickster God"), the former contact of Garner, who tells him about the group Control and its founders, who manipulate the super hero community.

Page 11:2. Flashback. Image of General Cecil B. Slinkard.
NOTES: First appeared in INV 4. He is "a celebrated cape hater".

Page 11:3. Flashback. Image of General Thaddeus E. "Thunderbolt" Ross.
NOTES: First appeared in H 1. Father of Betty Ross and later father-in-law to Bruce Banner.

Page 11:4. Flashback. Image of General Lewis Haywerth at a function.
NOTES: First appeared in DD 232. He is later a member of the Commission of Superhuman Activities.

Page 11:5. Flashback. Image of Howard Stark and Bolivar Trask at a function.
NOTES: Stark first appeared in IM 28 and is the father of Iron Man. Trask first appeared in UX 14 and created the Sentinels.

Page 11:6. Flashback. Image of Colonel (later General) Edward Harrison.
NOTES: First appeared in JIM 87. Associate of Dr. Donald Blake and many of his operations included Thor.

Page 11:7. Flashback. Image of the six men are together as Control, with an unidentified seventh man in the shadow in the background.
NOTES: These men were "rising to power in the cold dawn of the post-war decade" (the 1950s) and the "nuclear age". Three of them were known to be actually active during WWII. Ross was active during H2 291-FB, Slinkard during INV 4, and Stark helped created the first atomic bomb (Manhattan Project) from IM 257. Also note that Professor X's parents were also implied to have worked on the first atomic bomb in UX 1.

Page 12:1. Flashback. The rampage of the Brute That Walks (Howard Avery).
NOTES: During the events of JIM 65.

Page 13:1. Flashback. Fin Fang Foom chasing Chan Liuchow on horseback.
NOTES: During the events of ST 89, between ST 89 (8:2) and ST 89 (8:3).

Page 12:2. Flashback. The battle between Zzutak and a second monster created by Frank Johnson.
NOTES: During the events of ST 88.

Page 13:2. Flashback. The rampage of Gigantus.
NOTES: During the events of JIM 63.

Page 13:3. Flashback. Reed Richards defeats Gormuu with an energy weapon.
NOTES: During events of FF 271-FB.

Page 12:3, 13:4. Flashback. Image of Monster Island (with trademark volcano with a monster face in the background), with numerous monsters. "Trickster God" implies that the government covered up the various monster attacks and placed many of the monsters on Monster Island.
NOTES: Harrison notes the numerous alien contacts in "the last three decades". Monster Island probably appears between M/U 7 and FF 1. Among the monsters seen are Tricephalous (from FF 1) and Giganto (from FF 1), among others I cannot identify (Enda identified Neolithic as one, but I am unfamiliar with this creature).

Page 14:1. Flashback. Scientist Reed Richards in a lab shaking hands with Harrison, his military liaison. Reed received a lot of funding for his program, including military. "Trickster God" states that Control was responsible for funding numerous scientists that led to the creation of the Marvels.
NOTES: Sometime before FF 1-FB.

Page 14:2. Flashback. Slinkard funds the research of Henry Pym.
NOTES: Sometime before TTA 27-FB.

Page 14:3. Flashback. Slinkard also funds Elias Starr (Egghead).
NOTES: Sometime before TTA 38.

Page 14:4. Flashback. Haywerth funded Trask's Sentinel project.
NOTES: Sometime before UX -1. As both Haywerth and Agent Gyrich both later work for the Commission on Superhuman Activities, and Gyrich was the one who approached Trask for government funding of the Sentinels in UX -1, there may be a connection to the Sentinel funding and the Commission.

Page 14:5. Flashback. Ross working with Bruce Banner and other scientists during test of gamma bomb.
NOTES: Sometime before H 1.

Page 14:6. Flashback. Slinkard brought Otto Octavius into the staff at the New York State Atomic Research Center.
NOTES: Sometime before ASM 3.

Page 15-16. The "Trickster God" talks to Ewing, then departs.
NOTES: The man in the trenchcoat refers to himself as possibly being a "Trickster God" (possibly Loki). the "Lord of Lies" (possibly Mephisto), a government whistle blower or a disgruntled employee. Ewing also refers to him later as "Trickster God".

Page 17-19. After walking "for hours", Ewing returns home. He meets with his girlfriend Monique, and sees a mysterious man in the shadows. His apartment is blown up, killing his girlfriend Monique, and he flees into the night.

DAY TWO
Page 20. Ewing goes to Penn Station and leaves for Santa Fe, unknowingly followed by a Garner LMD.

Page 21-22. Ewing arrives "nine hours later" in Punios Verde, New Mexico, investigating the bank deposit box, but he is tasered by the Garner LMD.
NOTES: The Hulk had been through Punios Verde during his "endless journey", Which issue of H2 is uncertain.

Page 23. Ewing meets the Garner LMD (thinking it to be the real Garner) and they drive off in a van.

Page 24:1-24:3. Flashback. Young Matt Murdock is exposed to radioactive waste after pushing an old man from the path of a truck.
NOTES: These events recount DD 1-FB.

Page 24:4-24:5. Flashback. Garner investigates Matt Murdock's accident, but is turned away from his hospital room by the nursing staff, specially brought in that afternoon. Garner suspects Control interference.
NOTES: Jack Murdock is at his son's bedside. These events occur between the panels in DD 1-FB.

Page 25:1-26:2. The Garner LMD brings Ewing to his base, a cavern once used by the Hulk, and later used as Control's operations center. The Garner LMD introduces Ewing to General (formerly Colonel) Edward Harrison.
NOTES: The Hulk probably hid out in this cave in New Mexico in ASM 14. Also seen in the cave are a bathtub shaped Fantasticar, an Avengers' Quinjet, and one of Captain America's early diamond-shaped shields.

Page 26:3. Flashback. Harrison pulls government funding for the launch of Reed Richards' Pocket Rocket.
NOTES: Shortly before FF 1-FB.

Page 26:4-27:1. Flashback. Reed Richards, Sue Storm, Johnny Storm and Ben Grimm sneak onto the base and launch into space. Control has sabotaged their cosmic ray shielding and placed a device onboard to focus and amplify cosmic rays. The crew crashes and mutates, becoming the Fantastic Four.
NOTES: During FF 1-FB. Control was acting behind the scenes.

Page 27:2-30:1. Harrison identifies Garner as an Life Model Decoy (standard SHIELD issue) and shoots him. Harrison and Ewing flee in a flying car named "Smart Stan" when SHIELD arrives in the Helicarrier.


CONSPIRACY #2
"Book Two: Print the Legend"
February 1998
31 pages

Synopsis:
DAY TWO
Page 1:1-6:3. During the day, Ewing and Harrison flee from the Helicarrier in "Smart Stan", an intelligent car that can fly and is stealth capable.
NOTES: Stan's stealthware was "from a Skrull vessel that went down near White Sands in '47". This is probably a reference to the Roswell UFO landing in 1947, probably either the Skrull vessel of the 21st Observation Corps from M/:LG 4-FB (which brought Effigy and Chimera to Earth), or the two Skrull vessels that brought the Prime Skrull and his pursuer to Earth in BWULF 2-FB, all three vessels crashing on Earth in 1947.

Page 6:4-7:5. At night and after "another half hour", they arrive at Sanctuary, another secret base that was once used by Thanos. Ewing finds a ballistic slug in Stan.
NOTES: Thanos' Sanctuary base is from A 252.

Page 8:1-10:3. In Sanctuary, Harrison gives Ewing a cigar and tells him he wants him to expose Control.
NOTES: Harrison smokes cigars, he mentions that "Ross got me onto 'em" and "Castro used to send him some every Christmas". A possible connection to H3 19, where General Ryker (Ross' commanding officer) claimed he covered up the Kennedy assassination after Castro hired two Corsican mercenaries to kill JFK. Harrison also states they that they were once "holed up for the weekend at the Aspen retreat, deciding whether to give the SHIELD job to Fury or Glenn Talbot". This implies that Control may actually be the Executive Council, the mysterious founders of SHIELD.

Page 10:4. Flashback. Footage of Gormuu battling aircraft and rampaging through a city.
NOTES: This occurs during FF 271-FB.

Page 11:1-3. Harrison tells Ewing that it was Control that kept the Gormuu affair from the public.

Page 11:4. Flashback. Footage of the posing Invaders (Captain America, Bucky, Namor, Human Torch, Toro).

Page 11:5. Flashback. Footage of Namor battling a tank and soldiers (they appear to be Nazis).
NOTES: Place uncertain.

Page 12:1-2. Harrison tells Ewing Control was formed to manipulate and control the superhuman populace.

Page 12:3. Flashback. Footage of Fantastic Four running down street.
NOTES: Placement uncertain, Reed and Sue are in blue jumpsuits without the '4' on the chest, Ben is in his familiar rocky form.

Page 12:4. Flashback. Footage of Reed Richards working on a machine after the Gormuu incident. He worked under General Ferguson as liaison to the Rocket Group.
NOTES: Ferguson was seen in FF 271-FB.

Page 13:1-4. Harrison shows Ewing a copy of a document written by Reed Richards a week after the Gormuu incident for the government, called "Appropriate Responses to the Fantastic". He proposes a "think tank of top scientists, and ad hoc advisory council that could be called in to supervise crisis situations".
NOTES: This seems very similar to the Illuminati that Reed helped form from A5 7.

Page 13:5. Flashback. Footage of the founders of Control (Harrison, Haywerth, Ross, Slinkard, Stark, Trask) with their faces markered out.

Page 13:6-14:2. Harrison claims Control funded the research that led to the creation of numerous heroes.

Page 14:3. Flashback. Footage of the gamma bomb. Harrison reveals that Control influenced the superhuman community, financing dozens of scientific minds and funding technologies. He mentions Pym (Ant-Man), Banner (Hulk), Richards (Mr. Fantastic), Stark (Iron Man), Octavius (Dr. Octopus), Trask (inventor of the Sentinels), Myron MacLain (creator of Adamantium), Calvin Zabo (Mister Hyde), Theodore Sallis (Man-Thing), and Santini (Mad Thinker, who used the alias Dr. José Santini). Harrison notes their research gave them "the inside track on Pym particles, Stark microprocessors, adamantium, unstable molecules... and the gamma bomb".
NOTES: The gamma bomb footage occurs sometime before its detonation in H 1.

Page 14:4-15:5. Ewing argues that Harrison manipulated Reed Richards and sabotaged his ship to create the Fantastic Four. Harrison then claims Control was responsible for Banner becoming the Hulk by locking him out of the bunker during the gamma bomb test, and the funding of Henry Pym and Stark Industries led to the origins of Ant-Man and Iron Man, all three who helped form the Avengers. He also states they dealt for a time with "a guy called Xavier" (Professor X), whose theories on mutants helped Trask develop the Sentinels, which in turn led to Project Wideawake. They also allowed "unsupervised radiology experiments... near the campus at Empire State University", where a third of the students were abnormally irradiated, which may have been responsible for "the proliferation of capes in the Big Apple" (probably including Spider-Man).

Page 15:6. Flashback. An image of a spider.
NOTES: Probably the spider that bit Peter Parker in AAF 15, and that Carl King later ate to become Thousand (TWSM 1)

Page 16: Flashback. Footage of Hulk battling US Army. Harrison claims they allowed the Hulk to roam free so the military would always have an excuse for expenditures in weapons development.
NOTES: Placement uncertain. Hulk is green with purple pants. Harrison notes that "in five years, he became the single greatest expenditure subject in military history"; as H 1 occurs in April, YEAR 2, this means the Hulk achieved that distinction in YEAR 7.

Page 17:1-2. Harrison states Control had a black budget and gathered massive amount of information, primarily from the files of groups such as the FF, Avengers and Alpha Flight, and had set up administrative staff at various bases to process all the information. However the founders of Control soon became compromised, and they eventually lost control of the organization, with much of their funding financing super criminals.

Page 17:3. Flashback. Footage of the Wizard.

Page 17:4. Flashback. Footage of the Mad Thinker.

Page 17:5. Flashback. Footage of Ultron.

Page 17:6. Flashback. Footage of the Dr. Octopus.

Page 18:1-4. Harrison no longer knows who is in charge of Control, with the original six founders either dead or out of the loop. Haywerth went to work for the Commission of Superhuman Activities. Slinkard secretly funded more elicit organizations like Roxxon Oil, Brand Corp, Stane International (owned by Obadiah Stane/Iron Monger), Osborn Chemicals (owned by Norman Osborn/Green Goblin), Drexel Cord, and subversive groups like the Maggia, Hydra and AIM.
NOTES: Haywerth was a member of the CSA in CA 331. Drexel Cord was a minor adversary of Iron Man in IM 2.

Page 18:5. Flashback. Footage of General Slinkard set ablaze and falling to his death from the World Trade Center. Harrison says it was ruled a suicide, but he suspects murder.
NOTES: The other founders of Control include Trask (died in UX 16), Stark (died in IM 287-FB), and Ross (still active in H3).

Page 19:1-21:2. As Ewing tries to compose himself in the washroom, Harrison threatens him with a gun, as SHIELD has arrived and he believes Ewing led them there. Ewing flees as harrison opens fire and the lights go out.

DAY THREE
Page 21:3-22:4. "Thirty minutes later", Ewing finds an escape hatch and leaves Sanctuary, and encounters a SHIELD Mandroid.
NOTES: New day as sun is rising.

Page 23:1-25:4. Ewing meets with Dum Dum Dugan and Agent Gyrich as SHIELD searches for Harrison. Dugan explains that Harrison is simply delusional and that Control does not exist, and that SHIELD has been after him since he escaped their Bakersfield facility. Ewing is reluctant to believe him, so Dugan shows him a photograph of Garner's body, one of sixteen known victims.
NOTES: Harrison went mad in "the last decade" (circa YEAR 8).

Page 25:5. Flashback. Photograph of Cliff Garner's dead body, stabbed to death by Harrison 98 times with the handle of a steel comb. Dum Dum said he was apparently murdered after meeting Harrison and scoffing at his story.
NOTES: He was murdered "eight years ago" (circa YEAR 10).

Page 26:1-2. Dugan and Gyrich arrange for Ewing to return to New York.
NOTES: Gyrich has in the past worked for the Commission of Superhuman Activities under Haywerth (CA 333) and met with Bolivar Trask regarding government funding for the Sentinels (UX -1-BTS).

Page 26:3-5. After being debriefed for "a further hour", Ewing is riding a limo to the airport to be returned to New York. He pulls out Harrison's cigar and remembers his reference to the "Aspen retreat".

DAY TEN
Page 27:1-28:4. Back in New York, Ewing spends "a week" researching, finding out the Trask family owns a private ranch in Aspen called Nirvana. He encounters the "Trickster God" again.
NOTES: "A week" after Day Three.

Page 28:5. Flashback. Photograph of Bolivar Trask.
NOTES: Close up of same photograph seen in CONSPIRACY 1 (11:5).

Page 29:1-2. "Trickster God" asks Ewing to continue his investigation.

Page 29:3. Flashback. Photograph of Nirvana near the Whitelance River in Aspen.
NOTES: The wealthy Trask family also owned property in New York (UX 14), South America (X 115) and South Dakota (UX -1).

Page 29:4-31:6. Ewing decides to fly to Aspen to investigate Nirvana, and puts all his evidence in an envelope to be be opened upon his death. He decides to smoke Harrison's cigar, when a mysterious figure arrives at his home...
NOTES: The final fate of Ewing and the identity of the mysterious figure are unknown...

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Re: Conspiracy #1-2

Post by wolframbane » Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:42 pm

Col_Fury was nice enough to send me his analysis of how this series overlaps with INV 4.
Col_Fury wrote:I've had a chance to look through both books side-by-side, and here's how it breaks down:

Invaders #4 (1-2)
Captain America, the Human Torch, & Toro enter a military air base.

Conspiracy #1 (6:3)-FB
Cliff Garner is startled.

Conspiracy #1 (6:4)-FB
Captain America, the Human Torch & Toro jump the fence, the Human Torch melts Cliff’s rifle.

Invaders #4 (3)
Cliff reacts to his rifle being melted, and the three heroes are chased by Gen. Slinkard.

Conspiracy #1 (7:1)-FB
Gen. Slinkard yells at Captain America.

Conspiracy #1 (7:2)-FB
Cliff thinks to himself.

Invaders #4 (4-5)
Gen. Slinkard yells some more, the heroes evade the American troops, and Captain America approaches a plane.

Conspiracy #1 (7:3)-FB
Captain America jumps into the cockpit, the Human Torch & Toro are right behind him.

Invaders #4 (6:1-6:3)
Captain America starts the plane and begins take-off.

Conspiracy #1 (7:4)-FB
Captain America flies off in the plane, the Human Torch & Toro follow.

Conspiracy #1 (7:5)-FB
Cliff watches Gen. Slinkard yell at the escaping Captain America, Human Torch, & Toro.

Invaders #4 (6:4-18:6)
Captain America, the Human Torch & Toro begin their trip to Bermuda. They rendezvous with Namor and save Churchill.

Cliff Garner DOES appear in Invaders #4, he just hasn’t been named until Conspiracy #1.

Some placement suggestions:

CAPTAIN AMERICA/STEVEN ROGERS

INV 4 (1-2)
*Conspiracy 1 (6:4)-FB
INV 4 (3)
*Conspiracy 1 (7:1-7:2)-FB
INV 4 (4-5)
*Conspiracy 1 (7:3)-FB
INV 4 (6:1-6:3)
*Conspiracy 1 (7:4-7:5)-FB
INV 4 (6:4-18:6)


HUMAN TORCH/JIM HAMMOND

INV 4 (1-2)
*Conspiracy 1 (6:4)-FB
INV 4 (3)
*Conspiracy 1 (7:1-7:2)-FB-OP
INV 4 (4-5)
*Conspiracy 1 (7:3)-FB
INV 4 (6:1-6:3)
*Conspiracy 1 (7:4-7:5)-FB
INV 4 (6:4-18:6)


TORO/TOM RAYMOND

INV 4 (1-2)
*Conspiracy 6:4)-FB
INV 4 (3)
*Conspiracy 1 (7:1-7:2)-FB-OP
INV 4 (4-5)
*Conspiracy 1 (7:3)-FB
INV 4 (6:1-6:3)
*Conspiracy 1 (7:4-7:5)-FB
INV 4 (6:4-18:6)


SLINKARD, GEN. C. B.
INV 4 (1-3)
Conspiracy 1 (7:1-7:2)-FB
INV 4 (4-5)
Conspiracy 1 (7:3)-FB
INV 4 (6:1-6:3)
Conspiracy 1 (7:4-7:5)-FB

GARNER, CLIFF
INV 4 (1-2)
Conspiracy 1 (6:3-6:4)-FB
INV 4 (3)
Conspiracy 1 (7:1-7:2)-FB
INV 4 (4-5)
Conspiracy 1 (7:3)-FB
INV 4 (6:1-6:3)
Conspiracy 1 (7:4-7:5)-FB


Hope that helps!

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Re: Conspiracy #1-2

Post by Col_Fury » Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:37 pm

Thanks for the analysis, wolframbane!

It's lucky that I recently overhauled Dr. Octopus' early chronology, so I can suggest this straight away:

DOCTOR OCTOPUS/OTTO GUNTHER OCTAVIUS
...
PPTSS2 9 (7)-FB
ASMU 3 (6:3-6:6)-FB
*Conspiracy 1-FB
ASMU 18 (7:3-7:5)-FB
SM/DO: OR 1 (2:2)-FB
...
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Re: Conspiracy #1-2

Post by Col_Fury » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:05 pm

wolframbane wrote:Harrison also states they that they were once "holed up for the weekend at the Aspen retreat, deciding whether to give the SHIELD job to Fury or Glenn Talbot". This implies that Control may actually be the Executive Council, the mysterious founders of SHIELD.
I really liked that bit. We know from various places(Strange Tales 135, Fury 1, Iron Man: Enter the Mandarin 6) that Tony Stark recommended Fury for the position, but Conspiracy reveals that not everyone agreed with him right away.(which makes sense, Stoner was appointed director before Fury was. Not that he worked out very well) It would seem that Control conceded to the then 'public' face of Project SHIELD, or they just realized that Fury would make a better director than Talbot would. Either way, fun!
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Re: Conspiracy #1-2

Post by wolframbane » Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:51 am

Col_Fury wrote:I really liked that bit. We know from various places(Strange Tales 135, Fury 1, Iron Man: Enter the Mandarin 6) that Tony Stark recommended Fury for the position, but Conspiracy reveals that not everyone agreed with him right away.(which makes sense, Stoner was appointed director before Fury was. Not that he worked out very well) It would seem that Control conceded to the then 'public' face of Project SHIELD, or they just realized that Fury would make a better director than Talbot would. Either way, fun!
Have there been any other appearances of the Executive Council? I know they also appeared in M/:LG 10, considering Fury for project SHIELD.

If Tony Stark recommended Fury, I think that his word may have carried a lot of weight, if his father was one of the Executive Council (Howard Stark WAS a member of Control. He was also, totally unrelated of course, a member of the Hellfire Club (the social club, not the evil Inner Circle), and worked on the Manhattan Project. Guy was busy.

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Re: Conspiracy #1-2

Post by wolframbane » Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:54 am

Here are some of my placement suggestions based of some of your analyses Col_Fury.

*EWING, MARK
CONSPIRACY 1
CONSPIRACY 2


GARNER, CLIFF
INV 4 (1-2)
CONSPIRACY 1 (6:3-6:4)-FB
INV 4 (3)
CONSPIRACY 1 (7:1-7:2)-FB
INV 4 (4-5)
CONSPIRACY 1 (7:3)-FB
INV 4 (6:1-6:3)
CONSPIRACY 1 (7:4-7:5)-FB
*CONSPIRACY 1 (5:3)-FB
*CONSPIRACY 1 (24:4-24:5)-FB ~ DD 1-FB-BTS
*CONSPIRACY 1 (8:1)-FB ~ A 4 (8:3-9:4)-BTS
*CONSPIRACY 1 (8:2-9:3)-FB
*CONSPIRACY 2 (25:5)-FB

*GARNER, CLIFF [LMD]
CONSPIRACY 1

*HARRISON, GENERAL EDWARD
CONSPIRACY 1 (11:6-7)-FB
CONSPIRACY 2 (13:5)-FB
CONSPIRACY 1 (14:1)-FB
FF 271-FB-BTS ~ CONSPIRACY 1 (13:3)-FB-BTS
CONSPIRACY 1 (26:3)-FB
JIM 87
IM:IA 2
CONSPIRACY 1
CONSPIRACY 2

SLINKARD, GENERAL CECIL B.
INV 4 (1-3)
CONSPIRACY 1 (7:1-7:2)-FB
INV 4 (4-5)
CONSPIRACY 1 (7:3)-FB
INV 4 (6:1-6:3)
*CONSPIRACY 1 (7:4-7:5)-FB
*CONSPIRACY 1 (11:2)-FB
*CONSPIRACY 1 (11:7)-FB
*CONSPIRACY 2 (13:5)-FB
*CONSPIRACY 1 (14:2-14:3)-FB
*CONSPIRACY 1 (14:6)-FB
*CONSPIRACY 2 (18:5)-FB

"TRICKSTER GOD"
CONSPIRACY 1
CONSPIRACY 2

TRASK, DR. BOLIVAR
*UX 58 (18:4)-FB
*UX -1
*CONSPIRACY 1 (11:5)-FB
*CONSPIRACY 1 (11:7)-FB
*CONSPIRACY 2 (13:5)-FB
*UX 57 (14:3-14:4)-FB
*CONSPIRACY 1 (14:4)-FB
*{UX 14} ~ MARVELS 2 (34:5-35:5)
UX 15
UX 16
UX 57 (15:2)-FB

TRASK, LAWRENCE "LARRY" *UX 58 (18:4)-FB
UX 58 (18:4)-FB
*UX -1
*UX 57 (14:3-14:4)-FB
UX 57 (15:2)-FB
...

NOTE: I have reordered some of the events of Bolivar Trask's life. He joined Control (CONSPIRACY 1 (11:5)-FB, 1 (11:7)-FB, 2 (13:5)-FB) after the Gormuu incident, just a few years before FF 1 (YEAR 1). When Larry discovered his powers (UX 58 (18:4)-FB) he was a young boy, but was college age before he left by YEAR 4, so UX 58 (18:4)-FB likely occurs a few years before CONSPIRACY 1 (11:5)-FB, 1 (11:7)-FB and 2 (13:5)-FB. Also, they got Master Mold working and then Larry left for college in UX 57 (14:3-14:4)-FB, but UX -1 still has Larry living with Bolivar and Master Mold was not yet completed, so I am moving UX -1 before UX 57 (14:3-14:4)-FB. As Trask was approached by Gyrich for government funding after UX -1, I placed Haywerth giving govt funding in CONSPIRACY 1 (14:4)-FB after this, and UX -1 also likely occurs before Trask joined Control. I also elaborated on the crossover of UX 14 and MARVELS 2. I have also adjusted Larry Trask's chronology to match the changes I made to Bolivar's.

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Re: Conspiracy #1-2

Post by Enda80 » Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:35 pm

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/sh ... dAuto=4298
Not sure how this affects chronology, but in the FF/X-Men series, there was an at least alleged diary of Reed Richards claiming that he engineered the creation of the FF on purpose after examining his crew's genetic structure to see that they might achieve benevolent mutation. That may support the canonicity of some events of Conspiracy.

Other than that, didn't New Warriors reference Conspiracy recently?

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Re: Conspiracy #1-2

Post by JephYork » Sat Apr 12, 2008 5:12 pm

The fact that you wrote the word "alleged" means that you know the miniseries revealed the diary to have been fabricated by Dr. Doom...

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Re: Conspiracy #1-2

Post by Enda80 » Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:43 pm

I did not see the end of the limited series, so I did not know.

Other texts supporting the overarching conspiracy include MK Spider-Man#9 (Osborn part of a conspiracy to initiate diversions for the metahumans), Osborn's recent A-Z Update entry (which references the MK#9 conspiracy), Namor's recent entry (which notes that the Viking was part of the MK#9 conspiracy), and Fury#1 (Roxxon involved with Hydra).

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Re: Conspiracy #1-2

Post by Enda80 » Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:59 pm

Justin Hammer was also shown instigating or funding many criminals, so the corporate conspiracy angle has some roots.

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Re: Conspiracy #1-2

Post by wolframbane » Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:12 pm

And in the most recent New Warriors #7, there is reference to the "Gardner Files" and evens of CONSPIRACY 1-2.

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