Some Adam Warlock Chronology corrections proposal

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Some Adam Warlock Chronology corrections proposal

Post by Ethain » Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:46 am

Adam Warlock collector is back. I've been comparing the chronology with my collection, I've taken some notes and here is the results. There's still some work to do, but this is my proposal by now:

FF 66-FB-BTS
FF 66-BTS
{FF 67}~H2 @6 FB~Q 57 FB
M/TIO 61 FB
T 165-FB
T 163-BTS
T 164
T 165
T 166
M/PRM 1~PPTSS @8/4
[...]
WLOCK 8
H2 176
H2 177~PPTSS @8/4
H2 178
[...]
WLOCK 15
M/TU 55~H2 248 FB
M/TIO 62-FB~PPTSS @8/4
A@ 7~SS3 36 FB~S-H3 13 FB
M/TIO@ 2~H2 248 FB~M/TIO 61 FB~A FINALE~Death of Cap. Marvel GN
M/TIO 63
SS3 7 BTS
SS3 46
SS3 47
SS3 48
SS3 50
IG 1
[...]
WIW 7
WIW 7 ~ IW 1
DLOCK2 16
IW 2
IW 3
SSWP 5
M/CP 108/4
[...]
MK3 44
SS3 75 [cover]
FF 370
IW 6
WIW 11 [lots of FB’s, I have to work this yet]
WIW 12
Cyber Space 3000 6 [Marvel UK]
Cyber Space 3000 7 [Marvel UK]
Cyber Space 3000 8 [Marvel UK]

WIW 14
[...]
WCHRON 6
STARBLAST 1
Q 54
WIW 23
T 469
SS3 87
WCHRON 7
WIW 24
T 470
SS3 88
WCHRON 8
WIW 25
T 471
STARBLAST 1 [Why here, according the published chronology?]
WIW 26
[...]
SS3 94
H2 418 [cameo]
WIW 34
[...]
WIW 41
AR Collector’s Preview [cover cameo]
WIW 42
RUNE/SS 1
RUNE/SS 2
ULTRAU 2-FB [can't find Warlock here, but it's in published chronology...]
CURSE 4
RUNEI
RUNE2 1
RUNE2 2
RUNE2 3
RUNE2 6
RUNE2 7
ULTRAU 2 [can't find Warlock here, but it's in published chronology...]
ULTRAU 1
[...]
WLOCK3 4
JLA/A 2 [tiny cameo]
IA 1-FB
[...]
IA 6
The End 1
The End 5
The End 6
Thanos 1
Thanos 2
Thanos 3
Thanos 4
Thanos 6
WLOCK5 1 BTS
WLOCK5 2 BTS
WLOCK5 3 BTS
WLOCK5 4
S-H3 7
S-H3 8
ANNI Conquest Prologue BST
ANNI Conquest: Q2 1 BTS
ANNI Conquest: Q2 2 BTS
ANNI Conquest: Q2 3 BTS
ANNI Conquest: Q2 4
ANNI:CONQUEST 1
ANNI:CONQUEST 2
ANNI:CONQUEST 3
ANNI:CONQUEST 4
ANNI:CONQUEST 5
ANNI:CONQUEST 6
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Re: Some Adam Warlock Chronology corrections proposal

Post by Arthur » Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:37 pm

I think the qualifications for your personal collection are a just a little bit different than the Project's...


I didn’t detail your entire post but some quick observations:

The depictions of Warlock in H@ 6 (pg. 8) and Q 57 (pg. 8) are retellings, not true flashbacks (no new information added). In the project only the original appearance is listed.

Similiarly H2 248 (5:4) is identical to M/TU 55 (16:2). H2 248 (5:5) shows Warlock and Spidey watching the Gardener depart, which could be placed between panels 17:3 (Gardener still close to Spidey) and 17:4 (Gardener disappearing into space). Although no new information is really added, the scene is at a different point in time, so

*M/TU 55 (1-17:3)
**H2 248 (5:5)-FB
*M/TU 55 (17:4-17:8)

A@ 7~SS3 36 FB~S-H3 13 FB
The scene in SS3 36 (7:2) shows the Avengers with Warlock invading Thanos’ ship. If this is a new scene, could you provide page panel references as to where it should fit within A@ 7? S-H3 13 ... She-Hulk vol 3(2004) only had 12 issues.
M/TIO@ 2~H2 248 FB~M/TIO 61 FB~A FINALE~Death of Cap. Marvel GN
If these are flashbacks with new information, they should be fitted in somewhere between panels of M/TIO@ 2. If they do not have new information, they do not belong in the project.
SS3 7-BTS
what exactly gives the BTS?
SS3 50
Warlock’s face appears on Pg 9, but this is just a montage of faces in the Surfer’s memory. Warlock does not really make an appearance in SS3 50. (as per FAQ... If the character is saying something like, "I have a lot of friends I can depend on," or "I've fought a lot of evil guys," and floating heads appear around that character, those don't qualify for a listing in the MCP. ) The project listings are restricted to “quantifiable” appearances (ones that can be placed in a character's chronology).
SS3 75 cover
... only in-story appearances are included in the project

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Re: Some Adam Warlock Chronology corrections proposal

Post by Ethain » Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:57 pm

Sorry, I didn't know the difference between Flashback and Retelling, thanks. So FB is only used if new information is provided, note taken. I saw that the sign ~ was like "also seen in", so I included other places where some scene were identical or almost identical, so I put ~ [...] FB where that happens. I see now that if I apply the no-new information rule -that I didn't know-, ~ and FB can't be in same line, ok.

S-H3 13 is S-H4 13, but anyway I'll remove it because all happens within Thanos mind.

H2 248 FB~M/TIO 61 FB~A FINALE~Death of Cap. Marvel GN are retellings. SS3 7 BTS too.

Note taken for non-chronological appearances like floating heads o covers.

Thanks for you help. I hope that anyway there will be some usable information in my list ;)

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