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Elektra: Root of Evil 1-4

Post by Col_Fury » Sun May 04, 2008 5:43 am

Elektra: Root of Evil #1
March, 1995

Appearances:
Elektra, Daredevil(Matt Murdock), Col. Nick Fury, Tekagi, Daito, Osaku, Genkotsu, Feruze, Doka, Stone

Synopsis:
Elektra kills a group of mercenaries and is interrupted by Daredevil. After a quick chat she takes off. Elsewhere, Tekagi and the Snakeroot find Daito dead(he killed himself) and their sword rusting. Later, Elektra chats with Stone. Elsewhere, Tekagi convinces the Sankeroot that they need to restore their sword by killing a few good people. Later, Elektra gets into a fight in a casino. Nick Fury appears and gives her a list of contacts so she can put together her own group of mercenaries.

References:
Published the same month as Daredevil 338, Daredevil’s in his armored look of the time.

Elektra: Root of Evil #2
April, 1995

Appearances:
Elektra, Tekagi, Osaku, Genkotsu, Feruze, Doka

Synopsis:
Elektra assembles her team and the snakeroot attacks their first victim.

Elektra: Root of Evil #3
May, 1995

Appearances:
Elektra, Tekagi, Osaku, Genkotsu, Feruze, Doka

Synopsis:
The snakeroot kills their first victim, as well as Elektra’s entire team. The snakeroot then kills their second victim.

Elektra: Root of Evil #4
June, 1995

Appearances:
Elektra, Tekagi, Osaku, Genkotsu, Feruze, Doka, Omikami

Synopsis:
Elektra prevents the snakeroot from killing their last victim by killing them instead.

References:
Elektra visits the old lady who made her first sai, just before killing everyone off. She doesn’t have a chronology, and I’m pretty sure she doesn’t appear anywhere else, I just thought I’d throw that in. Also, I won’t bother listing chronologies for Elektra’s team from issues 2 & 3, since they all die within an issue anyway.

Some placement suggestions for the current stuff:

DAREDEVIL/MATT MICHAEL MURDOCK

DD 337
*E: ROE 1
PPTSS 218


ELEKTRA/ELEKTRA NATCHIOS

DD 332
*E: ROE 1
*E: ROE 2
*E: ROE 3
*E: ROE 4

DCVM 1


FURY, COL. NICHOLAS "NICK" JOSEPH

ST3
*E: ROE 1
H2 426


TEKAGI

DD 325
*E: ROE 1
*E: ROE 2
*E: ROE 3
*E: ROE 4


DAITO

DD@ 10
*E: ROE 1

OSAKU/KARLA

DD@ 10/2
*E: ROE 1
*E: ROE 2
*E: ROE 3
*E: ROE 4


GENKOTSU

DD 325
*E: ROE 1
*E: ROE 2
*E: ROE 3
*E: ROE 4


STONE

DD 326
*E: ROE 1
DD:N 2
DD:N 3

And now, the FlashBacks!

E: ROE 1 (2-3)-FB
Elektra is almost 16. She’s attending a party of her father’s.
-app: Elektra, Hugo Natchios

E: ROE 1 (17-18)-FB
Elektra is 12. She’s climing a snowy mountain looking for the Chaste, and finds them.
-app: Elektra, Stick, Stone

E: ROE 2 (2-4)-FB
Elektra is 12. She completes a training task and finds Stick meditating. After reliving some memories she’s chastised by Stick for reaching out to him.
-app: Elektra, Stick

E: ROE 2 (3:4)-FB-FB
Stick leaves his wife and child when he commits himself to the Chaste.
-app: Stick

E: ROE 2 (4:2)-FB-FB
Drunk, Hugo Natchios complains to his son Orestez that his wife is a dirty slut.
-app: Hugo Natchios, Orestez Natchios

E: ROE 2 (12:4-12:5)-FB
Tekagi & Elektra, both members of the Hand, chat about the Snakeroot.
-app: Elektra, Tekagi

E: ROE 2 (13:1-13:2)-FB
The snakeroot’s sword is forged.
-app: a monk named Tomonori

E: ROE 2 (19-20)-FB
Elektra is 19. Elektra tries to return to the Chaste now that her father is dead and things are over between her & Matt, but Stick refuses to let her back in.
-app: Elektra, Stick, Stone, Star, Shaft, Flame, Claw, Wing

E: ROE 3 (1-5)-FB
Elektra is 9. A group of bad guys try to kidnap Elektra, but her brother Orestez kills them and returns her to her father. He suggests she take training in the martial arts to defend herself.
-app: Elektra, Orestez Natchios, Hugo Natchios

E: ROE 3 (18-21)-FB
Elektra is 22. With a group of Hand ninjas, Elektra has just committed her first murder. She tries to bathe in a nearby lake but Tekagi is watching. Elektra mentally commands the other ninjas to kill him, but he overpowers them all.
-app: Elektra, Tekagi

E: ROE 3 (25:4-25:5)-FB
Tekagi joins Elektra in the lake and they get their freak on.
-app: Elektra, Tekagi

E: ROE 3 (31:1-31:3)-FB
Elektra is 12. Stick gives Elektra a difficult task for looking into his head.
-app: Elektra, Stick

E: ROE 4 (1-5)-FB
Elektra is ten. Elektra finds her mother’s grave and asks her father about her.
-app: Elektra, Hugo Natchios

E: ROE 4 (3:2-3:5)-FB-FB
Christina Natchios parties while Hugo drinks. He tells Orestez about it, and orestez decides to kill his mother.
-app: Hugo Natchios, Christina Natchios, Orestez Natchios

E: ROE 4 (4:1-4:2)-FB
Repeated scene from E: A, but it’s revealed that Orestez hired the people who killed Christina.

E: ROE 4 (4:4-4:6)-FB-FB
Orestez feels awful for his dad getting caught in the crossfire. Meanwhile, the newborn Elektra is presented to her father.
-app: Elektra, Hugo Natchios, Orestez Natchios

E: ROE 4 (31:6-31:8)-FB
Elektra and Tekagi seal the deal in the lake.
-app: Elektra, Tekagi

Here’s the same stuff, but in chronological order:

E: ROE 2 (13:1-13:2)-FB
The snakeroot’s sword is forged.
-app: a monk named Tomonori

E: ROE 4 (3:2-3:5)-FB-FB
Christina Natchios parties while Hugo drinks. He tells Orestez about it, and orestez decides to kill his mother.
-app: Hugo Natchios, Christina Natchios, Orestez Natchios

E: ROE 2 (4:2)-FB-FB
Drunk, Hugo Natchios complains to his son Orestez that his wife is a dirty slut.
-app: Hugo Natchios, Orestez Natchios

E: ROE 4 (4:4-4:6)-FB-FB
Orestez feels awful for his dad getting caught in the crossfire. Meanwhile, the newborn Elektra is presented to her father.
-app: Elektra, Hugo Natchios, Orestez Natchios

E: ROE 2 (3:4)-FB-FB
Stick leaves his wife and child when he commits himself to the Chaste.
-app: Stick

E: ROE 3 (1-5)-FB
Elektra is 9. A group of bad guys try to kidnap Elektra, but her brother Orestez kills them and returns her to her father.
-app: Elektra, Orestez Natchios, Hugo Natchios

E: ROE 4 (1-5)-FB
Elektra is ten. Elektra finds her mother’s grave and asks her father about her.
-app: Elektra, Hugo Natchios

E: ROE 1 (17-18)-FB
Elektra is 12. She’s climing a snowy mountain looking for the Chaste, and finds them.
-app: Elektra, Stick, Stone

E: ROE 2 (2-4)-FB
Elektra is 12. She completes a training task and finds Stick meditating. After reliving some memories she’s chastised by Stick for reaching out to him.
-app: Elektra, Stick

E: ROE 3 (31:1-31:3)-FB
Elektra is 12. Stick gives Elektra a difficult task for looking into his head.
-app: Elektra, Stick

E: ROE 1 (2-3)-FB
Elektra is almost 16. She’s attending a party of her father’s.
-app: Elektra, Hugo Natchios

E: ROE 2 (19-20)-FB
Elektra is 19. Elektra tries to return to the Chaste now that her father is dead and things are over between her & Matt, but Stick refuses to let her back in.
-app: Elektra, Stick, Stone, Star, Shaft, Flame, Claw, Wing

E: ROE 3 (18-21)-FB
Elektra is 22. With a group of Hand ninjas, Elektra has just committed her first murder. She tries to bathe in a nearby lake but Tekagi is watching. Elektra mentally commands the other ninjas to kill him, but he overpowers them all.
-app: Elektra, Tekagi

E: ROE 3 (25:4-25:5)-FB
Tekagi joins Elektra in the lake and they get their freak on.
-app: Elektra, Tekagi

E: ROE 4 (31:6-31:8)-FB
Elektra and Tekagi seal the deal in the lake.
-app: Elektra, Tekagi

E: ROE 2 (12:4-12:5)-FB
Tekagi & Elektra, both members of the Hand, chat about the Snakeroot.
-app: Elektra, Tekagi

All right. This is what Elektra’s early chronology looks like at the moment:

ELEKTRA/ELEKTRA NATCHIOS
E:A 1-FB
ELEK2 35-FB
ELEK 2-FB
{DD 168 (1 - 4)-FB}
ELEK -1 (1 - 3:3)
DD 168 (5 - 9:1)-FB
DD2 37-FB
ELEK -1 pg. 5+
DD 168 (9:2)-FB
DD 190-FB
E:A 1-FB
DD 190-FB
E:A 1-FB
DD 190-FB
E:A 1-FB
E:ROE 3-FB
BIZADV 28
E:A 1-FB
E:A 1

First, {DD 168 (1 - 4)-FB} is not a Flashback, it’s a current day portion of the story and should be removed.

DD 168 (5 - 9:1)-FB should be DD 168 (6 - 9:1)-FB.

ELEK -1 pg. 5+ should be ELEK -1 (5-22).

DD 168 (9:2)-FB should be DD 168 (9:2-12:14)-FB.

Now, Root of Evil requires us to move some things around. As it’s currently listed, Elektra goes to college first, and then is trained by Stick & the Chaste, and then is kicked out and she joins the Hand. According to Root of Evil, she’s trained by Stick & the Chaste, THEN goes to college, returns to the Chaste but is refused, then she joins the Hand.

What happens in ELEK 2-FB? I don’t own this issue, so for now I’ll keep it right before her college days. If this is wrong, please let me know.

Some juggling:

ELEKTRA/ELEKTRA NATCHIOS
E: A 1 (1-4)-FB
*E: ROE 4 (4:4-4:6)-FB-FB
E: A 1 (5-6)-FB
ELEK2 35-FB
*E: ROE 3 (1-5)-FB
E: A 1 (8)-FB
*E: ROE 4 (1-5)-FB
DD 190 (1-3)-FB
*E: ROE 1 (17-18)-FB
DD 190 (4)-FB
E: A 1 (9-11)-FB
*E: ROE 2 (2-4)-FB
*E: ROE 3 (31:1-31:3)-FB

DD 190 (5-6)-FB
E: A 1 (13)-FB
*E: ROE 1 (2-3)-FB
???ELEK 2-FB???
ELEK -1 (1-3:3)
DD 168 (6-9:1)-FB
DD2 37-FB
ELEK -1 (5-22)
DD 168 (9:2-12:14)-FB
*E: ROE 2 (19-20)-FB
DD 190 (7-12)-FB
E: A 1 (18-20)-FB
E: ROE 3 (18-21)-FB
*E: ROE 3 (25:4-25:5)-FB
*E: ROE 4 (31:6-31:8)-FB
*E: ROE 2 (12:4-12:5)-FB

BIZADV 28
E: A 1 (22-27)-FB
E: A 1

And some placement suggestions:

NATCHIOS, HUGO
E: ROE 4 (3:2-3:5)-FB-FB
E: ROE 2 (4:2)-FB-FB
E: A 1 (1-4)-FB
E: ROE 4 (4:4-4:6)-FB-FB
E: A 1 (5-6)-FB
ELEK2 35-FB-BTS
E: ROE 3 (1-5)-FB
E: ROE 4 (1-5)-FB
E: ROE 1 (2-3)-FB
DD 168-FB

NATCIOS, ORESTEZ
E: ROE 4 (3:2-3:5)-FB-FB
E: ROE 2 (4:2)-FB-FB
E: A 1-FB-BTS
E: ROE 4 (4:4-4:6)-FB-FB
E: ROE 3 (1-5)-FB

NATCHIOS, CHRISTINA
E: ROE 4 (3:2-3:5)-FB-FB
E: A 1-FB

TEKAGI
*E: ROE 3 (18-21)-FB
*E: ROE 3 (25:4-25:5)-FB
*E: ROE 4 (31:6-31:8)-FB
*E: ROE 2 (12:4-12:5)-FB

DD 323-FB
{DD 319}
...

STAR
*E: A 1-FB
*E: ROE 2-FB

DD 296
DD:FFG
DD 326

SHAFT
*E: A 1-FB
*E: ROE 2-FB

DD 187
DD 188
DD 189

FLAME
*E: A 1-FB
*E: ROE 2-FB

DD 296
DD 320
DD:FFG
DD 326

CLAW
*E: A 1-FB
*E: ROE 2-FB

DD 187
DD 188
DD 189
DD:FFG
DD 326

WING
*E: A 1-FB
*E: ROE 2-FB

DD 296
DD:FFG

STONE
*E: ROE 1 (17-18)-FB
DD 190 (4)-FB
*E: A 1-FB
DD 190 (5-6)-FB
*E: ROE 2 (19-20)-FB
{DD 187}


STICK
W2 113-FB
*E: ROE 2 (3:4)-FB-FB
DD 226-FB
*E: ROE 1 (17-18)-FB
DD 190 (4)-FB
E: A 1 (9-11)-FB
*E: ROE 2 (2-4)-FB
*E: ROE 3 (31:1-31:3)-FB

DD 190 (5-6)-FB
E: A 1 (13)-FB
ELEK -1
*E: ROE 2 (19-20)-FB
{DD 176}

(juggled a bit, thanks to E: ROE. Also, W2 103-FB has no new information, it’s duplicated from E: ROE 2-FB and should be deleted)

Best line of the series:
“…name’s Fury. Nick Fury. But you can call me “Colonel”.”

Can anyone check Elektra vol. 1 #2(Dec. 1996) to see what’s in that FlashBack? Thanks!
-Daron Jensen

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Re: Elektra: Root of Evil 1-4

Post by lchaberstich » Sun May 04, 2008 5:57 pm

> Can anyone check Elektra vol. 1 #2(Dec. 1996) to see what’s in that FlashBack?

Elektra's flashback in the issue is a panel on the last story page showing Elektra as a young girl in Greece "giving her father the necklace that Stavros showed her how to make". I'd place her age in the panel at early/mid-teens.

It looks like ELEK 2-FB happened during ELEK2 35-FB.
Page 12 of ELEK2 35: Elektra is a child staying with her Uncle Demetrios and Aunt Alexia in the Greek countryside.
Page 13 (panel one) of ELEK2 35: An older Elektra has begun traveling the world with her father. She appears to be about the same age as the ELEK 2-FB with the necklace. (panel two) Elektra begins studying martial arts with a sensei at her father's insistence.
Page 14 (panel one) of ELEK2 35: Cut to Elektra's first meeting with Matt Murdock from DD 168. [Dialogue: Matt: "...Matthew Murdock. I'm in pre-law." Elektra: "E-Elektra Natchios, Political science..."] (panel two) Matt and Elektra kiss. (panel three) Elektra tied to chair as her father is gunned down.

So it's a small change, but I'd suggest this for Elektra's entry:
ELEKTRA/ELEKTRA NATCHIOS
[...]
ELEK2 35-FB
ELEK 2-FB
***ELEK2 35-FB***
{DD 168 (1 - 4)-FB}
ELEK -1 (1 - 3:3)
DD 168 (5 - 9:1)-FB
DD2 37-FB
[...]

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Re: Elektra: Root of Evil 1-4

Post by Col_Fury » Mon May 05, 2008 12:00 am

Thanks, lchaberstich!

You're right, there are a lot of FlashBacks in Elektra vol2 35! I really didn't want to mess round with those until I knew what was in Elektra vol1 2-FB, so here we go!

ELEK2 35 (3:1)-FB
Death of Elektra. We’ve seen this before, no new information.

ELEK2 35 (4)-FB
Resurrection of Elektra. Again, no new information.

ELEK2 35 (5:1-5:2)-FB
Some ‘rememberance’ FlashBacks, nothing new.

ELEK2 35 (10:2-10:3)-FB
Elektra kills someone, it looks like early in her career.

ELEK2 35 (11)-FB
Christina Natchios is killed and Hugo is shot. (11:1) is new, (11:2) is not. (11:1) immediately precedes E: A 1 (1-4)-FB.

ELEK2 35 (12)-FB
Covered above.

ELEK2 35 (13:1)-FB
Covered above.

ELEK2 35 (13:2)-FB
Covered above.

ELEK2 35 (14:1)-FB
Covered above, no new information. (DD 168-FB)

ELEK2 35 (14:2)-FB
Covered above.

ELEK2 35 (14:3)-FB
Covered above, no new information.

ELEK2 35 (15:1)-FB
Elektra climbs a snowy mountain again, to return to the Chaste.

ELEK2 35 (15:2)-FB
Elektra has just killed her sensei.

ELEK2 35 (16)-FB
Elektra & Daredevil, no new information.

So:

ELEKTRA/ELEKTRA NATCHIOS
E: A 1 (1-4)-FB
E: ROE 4 (4:4-4:6)-FB-FB
E: A 1 (5-6)-FB
ELEK2 35 (12)-FB
E: ROE 3 (1-5)-FB
E: A 1 (8)-FB
E: ROE 4 (1-5)-FB
*ELEK2 35 (13:1)-FB
ELEK 2-FB
*ELEK2 35 (13:2)-FB
DD 190 (1-3)-FB
E: ROE 1 (17-18)-FB
DD 190 (4)-FB
E: A 1 (9-11)-FB
E: ROE 2 (2-4)-FB
E: ROE 3 (31:1-31:3)-FB
DD 190 (5-6)-FB
E: A 1 (13)-FB
E: ROE 1 (2-3)-FB
ELEK -1 (1-3:3)
DD 168 (6-9:1)-FB
DD2 37-FB
*ELEK2 35 (14:2)-FB
ELEK -1 (5-22)
DD 168 (9:2-12:14)-FB
*ELEK2 35 (15:1)-FB
E: ROE 2 (19-20)-FB
DD 190 (7-12)-FB
*ELEK2 35 (15:2)-FB
E: A 1 (18-20)-FB
E: ROE 3 (18-21)-FB
E: ROE 3 (25:4-25:5)-FB
E: ROE 4 (31:6-31:8)-FB
E: ROE 2 (12:4-12:5)-FB
BIZADV 28
*ELEK2 35 (10:2-10:3)-FB
E: A 1 (22-27)-FB
E: A 1


NATCHIOS, HUGO
E: ROE 4 (3:2-3:5)-FB-FB
E: ROE 2 (4:2)-FB-FB
*ELEK2 35-FB
E: A 1 (1-4)-FB
E: ROE 4 (4:4-4:6)-FB-FB
E: A 1 (5-6)-FB
ELEK2 35-FB-BTS
E: ROE 3 (1-5)-FB
E: ROE 4 (1-5)-FB
E: ROE 1 (2-3)-FB
DD 168-FB

NATCHIOS, CHRISTINA
E: ROE 4 (3:2-3:5)-FB-FB
*ELEK2 35-FB
E: A 1-FB

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Re: Elektra: Root of Evil 1-4

Post by Enda80 » Mon May 05, 2008 3:16 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elektra_Na ... y_accounts
This came up before. A later story featured a contradictory account of Elektra's death. The DD Handbook went with this mini-series version.

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