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Event ordering question

Post by Chris McCarver »

Out of curiosity, I was wondering if anyone had an idea of the ordering of the following two events:

The Richards/Storm wedding (FF@ 3 ~ M/H&L '96)
Spider-Man and Dr. Strange's encounter with Xandu (ASM@ 2)

Reason I ask is that I've seen multiple orderings in certain characters' chronologies...

SPIDER-MAN
[...]
FF@ 3
M/H&L '96
FF@ 3
MARVELS 3 (9)
ALIAS 23
ASM 28 (1 - 16)
WTS 7
WTS 8
WTS 9
ASM 28 (17 - 20)
SM:PL
ASM@ 2
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ASM@ 2
FF@ 3
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Re: Event ordering question

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The Spider-Man Index #1 places ASM@ 2 between ASM 28 (Peter raduates high school) and ASM 29.
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Re: Event ordering question

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The Marvel Saga (The Official History of the Marvel Universe) has this ordering:

The Marvel Saga (The Official History of the Marvel Universe) #19
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Page 19 Spider-Man fights the Molten Man, Peter Parker graduates from Midtown High School earning a scholarship and Liz Allen breaks off her friendship with Peter. The Amazing Spider-Man (I) #28
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The Marvel Saga (The Official History of the Marvel Universe) #21
[...]
(Without art) Dr. Strange and Spider-Man team-up against Xandu. The Amazing Spider-Man Annual #2
Page 32 Dr. Doom swears revenge for his last defeat by the Fantastic Four. Fantastic Four Annual #3

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The Marvel Saga (The Official History of the Marvel Universe) #23
Page 1 Dr. Doom swears revenge. New art.
Pages 2 to 8 When Dr. Doom brings every available super-villain down on Reed and Sue's wedding, the present heroes fight them off long enough until Reed using a device given to him by the Watcher can defeat them. Reed and Sue are wed at last. Fantastic Four Annual #3, including new art.
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Re: Event ordering question

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Thanks, guys... :)

So does that mean that FF@ 3 should be placed after ASM 28 and ASM@ 2 on Spider-Man's chronology instead of before?
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Chris wrote:
So does that mean that FF@ 3 should be placed after ASM 28 and ASM@ 2 on Spider-Man's chronology instead of before?
Yes. According to the Official Marvel Index to the Fantastic Four #3, Spidey appears in FF@ 3 between ASM@ 2 as ASM 29.
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Re: Event ordering question

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I couldn't find any mention of FF@ 3 in the OMITASM that would shed any light on the question. Is it only Spidey's placement that is off for the wedding? There are an awful lot of characters that appear in FF@ 3, M/H&L '96, & MARVELS 3.
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Re: Event ordering question

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cweed4 wrote:I couldn't find any mention of FF@ 3 in the OMITASM that would shed any light on the question. Is it only Spidey's placement that is off for the wedding? There are an awful lot of characters that appear in FF@ 3, M/H&L '96, & MARVELS 3.
Yeah, Spidey's is the only one appearing off. There are only two characters, though, that appeared in both ASM@ 2 and FF@ 3, namely Dr. Strange and Spider-Man himself. The fact that Strange's chronology shows ASM@ 2 happening before the wedding and Pete's showing the opposite was what sort of inspired the question. :)
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Re: Event ordering question

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Spidey's appearance in ALIAS 23 would also have to shift with these changes. In that issue Peter tries talking to Jessica Jones after she has already been adopted and started back to school at Midtown High. This story covers part 2 of her origin and part 1 referenced Galactus' 1st appearance (which occurs after the FF wedding). So, this would have to move past all the wedding listings (FF@ 3, M/H&L '96) as well as the Galactus stuff in MARVELS 3 at the very least.

This would place it (at the very earliest)-
ASM 36
MARVELS 3 (32 - 33)
ALIAS 23
ASM 37
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