Thor: Son of Asgard

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Thor: Son of Asgard

Post by Somebody » Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:09 pm

This series has been analysed (#1-6 is in the archive, #7-12 is still in the forum but locked), but neither made placement suggestions. Here's a full MCP listing for the series. Overall, I don't see why it shouldn't be in the MCP - certainly not any less than, say, Earth's Mightiest Heroes.

Notes:
1) Sif's hair. The FB in T:SOA 8 shows how she lost her blonde hair for this series - similar to the previous story in that Loki cuts off her hair and gets Dwarfs to fix it, but she ends up with black hair. The differences are that they're much younger, Loki appears to go to the dwarfs out of guilt with her hair, and the dwarfs appear to be tricking Loki - when it's reattached, it's still blonde, and turns black after a few moments to Loki's shock as well as Sif's. Given that Loki pulls exactly the same stunt with someone else in T 402/2, I'd just suggest that the magical dye job faded eventually, and that he just cuts her hair off again when it does; whereupon it's replaced with "strands of naught" if you want the existing story to stay...
1b) While I'm mentioning Sif... her T@ 5 appearance = whahuh?! Sif meeting Thor for the first time when he's a Mjolnir-wielding adult flying over the Rainbow Bridge to Earth and she's a young child... does that fit with anything else? Ever? Given that the prologue that leads directly into it doesn't seem to be in the MCP, how come that is?
2) T:SOA 10-12 vs JIM 102/2. They work together, honest - there's the odd glitch to rationalise (mostly to do with artistic licence in the clothing), but it's the sort that comes from expanding a five-page montage to a three-issue story, and it's no farther away in terms of dialogue revision than the panels from T 252 which have been inserted into JIM 102/2 already. I've included notes in Thor's chronology to show how it fits together.
3) It's a major part of the current story arc in Thor v3 that Balder was born, as an infant, in the standard way with a mother and a father (who promptly gave him up for adoption, but that's a digression); and Thor flashes back to being a kid with Balder & Loki in T2 83. T:SOA fits together with that current continuity absolutely fine.
4) Agnar - not strictly SOA-related, but there's been three Agnars; the King of the Eagles from JIM 100/2 and RAVEN BANNER; an old man ("Agnar the Fierce") who was one of Heimdall's rivals for the guardianship of the Rainbow Bridge in JIM 104/2 (app. in T:SOA 6, which is why I noticed this) and a young man ("Agnar of Vanaheim") who wanted to kill Balder to prove himself and ended up hero-worshipping him in Walt Simonson's run. Currently, the first two are conflated together and the third isn't in the MCP at all as far as I can see. I've included listings for them in here.

THOR/THOR ODINSON/"DR. DONALD BLAKE"/"SIGURD JARLSON II"/"JAKE OLSON"/"LOREN OLSON" [ASGARDIAN]
[...]
**T:SOA 8-FB
T2 1-FB
**T:SOA 1
**T:SOA 2
**T:SOA 3
**T:SOA 4 (1-7)
**T:SOA 10 (18:9)-FB
**T:SOA 4 (8-23)
**T:SOA 5
**T:SOA 10 (18:3)-FB
**T:SOA 6
**T:SOA 7
**T:SOA 8
**T:SOA 9
**T:SOA 10 (18:8)-FB
JIM 100/2
T 252/2-FB (2:3) [looks like a slightly-altered repeat of JIM 100/2 (2:3-2:4) to me...]
JIM 100/2
T@ 11-FB-FB
JIM 100/2
JIM 101/2 (1:1-3:1)
T@ 11-FB-FB (16:1) [looks like a slightly-altered repeat of JIM 101/2 (3:1) to me...]
T 252/2-FB (2:4)
JIM 101/2 (3:2-5:3)
T 252/2-FB (3:1) [actually... he's backslid here. He can't lift it anywhere near as high as he could in JIM 101/2 (5:3). This helps with T:SOA 10 (1-9), where...]
**T:SOA 10 (1-9) [...Balder & Sif learn he can lift the hammer a little bit. He decides to hunt down the Fates/Norns to find out if he'll ever lift it properly]
JIM 102/2 (1) [Thor finds Norns]
**T:SOA 10 (10:2-10:3) [asks the Norns]
JIM 102/2 (2:1) [say he can win it, but will face Death first. Synchonous with T:SOA 10 (10:4), which is slightly altered]
**T:SOA 10 (11) [They vanish. He ponders the exact meaning...]
JIM 102/2 (2:2) [...but won't stop trying]
**T:SOA 10 (12-14) [Rides back to Asgard, sees Storm Giants attack]
JIM 102/2 (2:3) [Tries Mjolnir. Fails]
**T:SOA 10 (15:1-15:3) [Sees wounded Balder...]
JIM 102/2 (2:4-3:1) [...who falls and tells him Sif's been captured]
**T:SOA 10 (15:6:4-21:5) [Odin comes in and orders him to stay behind while they go searching. He sits on the throne, and flashes back to earlier T:SOA events involving Sif. Goes to the room where Mjolnir's kept, and picks it up effortlessly]
JIM 102/2 (3:2) ["LET THE STORM GIANTS BEWARE!". Also T:SOA 10 (22)]
**T:SOA 11 (1&2:1-5:5) [Walks to his horse, carrying Mjolnir, mounts it and rides off.]
T 252/2-FB (3:2) [Storm Giants beware again - this time he's on horseback, unlike JIM 102/2 (3:2) and T:SOA 10 (22)]
**T:SOA 11 (6-7) [Rides through grassland, stops to pick up a piece of Sif's clothing, which he wraps around his wrist. Enters Jotunheim.]
T 252/2-FB (3:3) [Threatens a pair of half-naked Storm Giants in the open,]
JIM 102/2 (3:3-4:2) [Disposes of them by hitting the ground in front of them and rides past. Rides through a gateway toward the castle]
**T:SOA 11 (8:1-19:2) [Confronts another pair of Storm Giants who are guarding the actual entrance. Disposes of them similarly, but smashes the path in the process this time. Flies for the first time to get round that, and forces his way in. Battles past a lot more Storm Giants to reach the King]
JIM 102/2 (4:3-4:4) [Confronts the King himself, a trail of defeated Storm Giants in his wake. Learns Hela has Sif.]
**T:SOA 11 (20-22) [Flies to "the highest peak in Jotumheim", and summons Hela, who holds a manacled Sif in her hands and reminds him of his "death" in T:SOA 6, which Sif saved him from]
**T:SOA 12 (1&2-13) [Thor fights and is soundly defeated by Hela. Hela lets Sif go to him as she gloats. As Hela's about to kill Sif, Thor...]
JIM 102/2 (5:1:1-5:2:1) [...offers to sacrifice himself in her place]
**T:SOA 12 (14:4-14:6) [Sif tells him not to. He tells Sif her life means more to him than his own]
JIM 102/2 (5:2:2) [Hela is shocked by his offer]
**T:SOA 12 (15:3-17) [He tells Hela she's never known love. Hela reaches out...]
JIM 102/2 (5:3) [...but can't go through with it because of the nobility of his gesture, and tells him to go and take Sif with him....]
**T:SOA 12 (18:5:2-22) [...although she warns him their paths will cross again. He & Sif kiss, and he flies off with her in his arms] [Off panel, they go to retrieve his horse]
JIM 102/2 (5:4) [They ride away on horseback, as Hela watches them from afar.]
[...]

SIF [ASGARDIAN]
[...]
**T:SOA 8-FB
T2 1-FB
**T:SOA 1 (1:1-15:1)
**T:SOA 10 (18:6)-FB
**T:SOA 1 (15:2-24:2)
**T:SOA 2 (1:1-14:9)
**T:SOA 10 (18:4)-FB
**T:SOA 2 (14:10-22:2)
**T:SOA 3
**T:SOA 4 (1:1-5:4)
**T:SOA 10 (18:7)-FB
**T:SOA 4 (5:5-7:7)
**T:SOA 10 (18:9)-FB
**T:SOA 4 (8-23)-FB
**T:SOA 5
**T:SOA 10 (18:3)-FB
**T:SOA 6
**T:SOA 7
**T:SOA 8
**T:SOA 9
**T:SOA 10 (18:8)-FB
**T:SOA 10
**T:SOA 11
**T:SOA 12 (1&2-13)
{JIM 102/2 (5:1:1-5:2:1)}
**T:SOA 12 (14:4-14:6)
JIM 102/2 (5:2:2)
**T:SOA 12 (15:3-17)
JIM 102/2 (5:3)
**T:SOA 12 (18:5:2-22)
JIM 102/2 (5:4)
[...]

BALDER [ASGARDIAN]
[T3 10-FB (newborn baby)]
**T:SOA 1
**T:SOA 2
**T:SOA 3
**T:SOA 4
**T:SOA 5
**T:SOA 6
**T:SOA 7
**T:SOA 8
**T:SOA 9
**T:SOA 10 (1-9)
**T:SOA 10 (15:1-15:3)
{JIM 102/2 (2:4-3:1)}
**T:SOA 10 (15:6:4-21:5)
JIM 106/2
[...]

AGNAR THE FIERCE [ASGARDIAN]
{JIM 104/2}
**T:SOA 6

AGNAR, KING OF THE EAGLES [EAGLE]
{JIM 100/2}
RAVEN BANNER

AGNAR OF VANAHEIM [ASGARDIAN]
**T 338
**T 339
**T 340
**T 345
**T 346
**T 347
**T 348
**T 349
**T 360 (1-14)
**BLDR 1
**T 360 (15-22)
**T 361
**T 362
**BLDR 2
**BLDR 3
**BLDR 4
**T 367
**T 368


ENCHANTRESS/AMORA/"HELEN EVE"/"CHRISTINE COLLINS" [ASGARDIAN]
**T:SOA 5
**T:SOA 7
**T:SOA 8
**T:SOA 9
M/SH3 15/2-FB
DEF 108-FB
{JIM 103}
[...]

FANDRAL [ASGARDIAN]
**T:SOA 5
**T:SOA 6
T@ 5
T 401
{JIM 119/2}
[...]

FRIGGA [ASGARDIAN]
T@ 11-FB
**T:SOA 7
**T:SOA 9
T@ 14/4
[...]

**GNORI [SNOW EAGLE]
**T:SOA 3

GOTRON [ASGARDIAN]
JIM 104/2-FB
{JIM 104/2}
**T:SOA 6


**HAKUREI [DRAGON]
**T:SOA 2 (1:1-14:9)
**T:SOA 10 (18:4)-FB
**T:SOA 2 (14:10-22:2)

HELA [ASGARDIAN]
**T:SOA 11
**T:SOA 12 (1&2-13)
{JIM 102/2 (5:1:1-5:2:1)}
**T:SOA 12 (14:4-14:6)
JIM 102/2 (5:2:2)
**T:SOA 12 (15:3-17)
JIM 102/2 (5:3)
**T:SOA 12 (18:5:2-22)
JIM 102/2 (5:4)
DF 3.6
[...]


HEIMDALL [ASGARDIAN]
*{JIM 104/2} (appearances where he's the guardian of the Rainbow Bridge must go *after* this, moving this backward as a result...)
**T:SOA 1
**T:SOA 5
T@ 5
[...]


HOGUN [ASGARDIAN]
**T:SOA 5
**T:SOA 6
T@ 5
T 401
{JIM 119/2}
[...]

HUGINN [RAVEN] (spelling correction - should end with a double-n)
**T:SOA 1
**T:SOA 8
RAVEN BANNER
{T 337}
[...]

KARNILLA [ASGARDIAN]
[...]
**T:SOA 1
**T:SOA 2
**T:SOA 3
**T:SOA 4
**T:SOA 5-FB
**T:SOA 5
**T:SOA 6
T@ 5
[...]

LOKI/LOKI LAUFEYSON [ASGARDIAN]
[...]
**T:SOA 8-FB
T2 1-FB
**T:SOA 1
**T:SOA 2
**T:SOA 3
**T:SOA 4
**T:SOA 5-FB
**T:SOA 5
**T:SOA 6
**T:SOA 7
**T:SOA 8
**T:SOA 9
JIM 100/2
[...]

MUNINN [RAVEN] (spelling correction - should end with a double-n)
**T:SOA 1
**T:SOA 8
RAVEN BANNER
{T 337}
[...]

ODIN/ODIN BORSON [ASGARDIAN]
[...]
T 402/2
**T:SOA 1
**T:SOA 5
**T:SOA 6
**T:SOA 7
JIM 100/2
JIM 101/2
T 252/2-FB
T@ 11-FB
**T:SOA 10
T@ 11-FB
[...]

SINDRI [ASGARDIAN DWARF]
**T:SOA 6-BTS
{JIM 108/2}

**TREIBOLD [HORSE]
**T:SOA 11 (1&2:1-5:5)
**T 252/2-FB (3:2)
**T:SOA 11 (6-7)
**T 252/2-FB (3:3)
**{JIM 102/2 (3:3-4:2)}
**T:SOA 11 (8:1-19:2)
**JIM 102/2 (5:4)

VALKYRIE II/BRUNNHILDE/BRUNNHILDA/SISTER BARBARA DENTON NORRISS/GENEVIEVE CROSS [ASGARDIAN]
DEF 109-FB
**T:SOA 7
**T:SOA 8
**T:SOA 9
DEF 109-FB
DEF 108-FB
DEF 109-FB]
M/:LG 5
[...]

VOLSTAGG [ASGARDIAN]
**T:SOA 5
**T:SOA 6
**T:SOA 7
T@ 5
T 401
{JIM 119/2}
[...]

**WYRD [FATE/NORN] (The other two also appear in JIM 102/2, T:SOA 10 and T 348; but don't appear to be named. This listing almost certainly isn't complete)
**{JIM 102/2 (1)}
**T:SOA 10 (10:2-10:3)
**JIM 102/2 (2:1)
**T:SOA 10 (11)
**T 346
**T 347
**T 348
**NMSE 1
**T 374
**T2 85

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