Uncanny Origins #7

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Uncanny Origins #7

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If "Venom: Dark Origin" is deemed non-canon, here's a possible canonic replacement.

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UNCANNY ORIGINS #7 [March 1997]
"Original Sin"
Writer: Bob Budiansky
Penciler: Dave Hoover
Inker: Bill Anderson

Cast:
BROCK, EDWARD "EDDIE" ALLAN CHARLES
VENOM (also in FB)
WEYING, ANN
BUSHKIN, BARNEY
SPIDER-MAN/PETER BENJAMIN PARKER
WATSON-PARKER, MARY JANE

Other characters:
Various civilians


Summary: Uhh, read the breakdown below. It's Eddie Brock's origin as Venom.


Flashback: Spidey in his red & blues getting the symbiote for the first time. Then generically swinging above the city in it. Then getting rid of the symbiote with the church bells.

Continuity notes: This story's new stuff is negated by "Venom: Dark Origin", which has Eddie still married to Ann during the Sin-Eater incident, shows the MJ scare in more detail, and even redoes the "Venom swings by the condo" scene.


Goofs: The newspaper Brock shows Ann says "Daily Times", despite the paper he works for being clearly called the Daily Globe later.

The family with the baby Venom saves in ASM 333 were black, but have turned white in this appearance.



Page 1: Generic shot of Venom swinging above a city, with basic stuff about him being a Lethal Protector.
Page 2: "Years ago", Brock meets with Ann Weying, his recently divorced ex-wife at a fancy bistro. He shows her his headline about the Sin-Eater's identity in an effort to win her back, which fails.
Page 3 to page 4 panel 2: Upon returning to the Daily Globe, Brock is fired by Barney Bushkin after Spidey reveals the true Sin-Eater. Brock gets mad to himself about Spidey.
Page 4 panels 3-5: "Weeks pass", Brock moves into a dumpy apartment. He writes for supermarket wacky tabloids. Then he pumps iron.
Page 5 panel 1: Eddie bemoans Spidey's heroic exploits.
Page 5 panels 2-4 to page 6: Brock comes to church, asks God to forgive him for planning to take his life, then the symbiote merges with him. This is pretty much the same as ASM @26/2 Pages 1 & 2, dialogue's even close.
Page 7: As they merge, Brock gets visions of the symbiote's past. This is new.
Page 8 panels 1 & 2: Venom swings to the Parker residence, seeing Mary Jane entering. This is new.
Page 8 panels 3-5: MJ enters the dark room, thinking it Peter, only to have the fangy mouth of Venom appear. Same as ASM 299's last two pages, with some dialogue missing.
Page 9 panel 1: MJ seeing Venom, gasping "don't come near me please" and "don't touch me!" This is new.
Page 9 panel 2: Venom swings away from their place, laughing about shaking up MJ. This is new.
Page 9 panel 3-6: Venom returns home and prepares to fight Spidey. Essentially the same as page 4 of ASM 300.
Page 10: At the church, Venom kills a cop who stumbles onto him. Same as ASM 300 pages 16-17.
Page 11 panels 1 & 2: Venom heads to the new Parker condo as people move them in. This is new.
Page 11 panel 3: While talking with Robbie, Peter spots Venom and excuses himself. Basically the same as ASM Page 19 final two panels.
Page 11 panels 4-5: Spider-Man swings after Venom, follows him into a building. Same as page 20 panels 1-4 of ASM 300.
Pages 12-15: Venom and Spidey fight. The same as ASM 300 pages 20 panel 6 to page 30 (much of the dialogue is even indentical).
Pages 16-18: Venom, in priest garb, webs Spidey to the bells. Spidey breaks out, fights Venom, wears him out by depleting his webs. Same as ASM 300 pages 31-37 panel 1.
Page 19: At the Vault, Venom kills a guardsman to escape. Same as ASM 315.
Page 20: Montage of Spidey fighting Venom, and Black Cat is also among the pictures, meaning it's ASM 316-317 centric.
Page 21 panels 1-2: While fighting Spidey, Venom saves a drowning kid in Central Park. Same as ASM 332.
Page 21 panels 3-5: Venom webs up a gunman's head, saving a less than thankful woman. He bemoans the fear of the innocents he wants them to save. Despite being "several days" after that last event, this seems to be a re-do of a scene from V:LP 1 but is possibly a new scene taking place between ASM 332 and 333.
Page 22: Venom and Spidey save Ann Weying. They make a truce. Same as ASM 375, pages 33-36, though changing what falls on Ann to a building and skimming over a lot.
Page 23: Venom swings away from that scene, vows to become a lethal protector. This is new.


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Here's the MCP style stuff, V:DO removed and UO 7 added, plus other errata.

SIN-EATER/STAN CARTER
**PPTSS 134-FB
{PPTSS 107}
...

SIN-EATER II/EMIL GREGG
**PPTSS 107
**PPTSS 108
**ASM 300-FB (Page 22 Panel 2)
**PPTSS 109
remove[PPTSS 128]
V:STA 2

BROCK, CARL
**V:LP 3-FB Page 13 panels 3-4
**V:LP 3-FB Page 13 panels 5-7
**{ASM 375-FB} Page 6 panels 4-5
**V:LP 3-FB Page 14 panels 3-4
**ASM 375-FB Page 6 panel 6
V:LP 2
V:LP 3

**BROCK, MARY
{NO3 3}
NO3 6-BTS

BROCK, EDWARD "EDDIE" ALLAN CHARLES
[added full name]
See also Venom
remove[V:LP 1-FB]
remove[VSS 1-FB]
remove[UTSM 4]
**V:LP 3-FB Page 13 panel 4
**V:LP 3-FB Page 13 panel 5
**V:LP 3-FB Page 13 panel 6-7
**V:LP 3-FB Page 13 panel 8
**V:LP 3-FB Page 14 panel 1
**ASM 375-FB Page 6 panel 3
**PPTSS2 38-FB page 1 panels 1-4
UTSM 15
**V:LP 3-FB Page 14 panel 2
**PPTSS2 38-FB page 2 panels 1-2
V:SOD -1
PPTSS2 5-FB Page 1 panel 3
**ASM 300-FB Page 22 Panel 2
**UO 7 Pages 2 to page 4 panel 2
**ASM 375-FB Page 6 panels 4-5
**V:LP 3-FB Page 14 panels 3-4
**ASM 375-FB Page 6 panels 6-7
**UO 7 Page 4 panels 3-5 to page 5 panel 1
**ASM 300-FB-BTS Page 23 Panels 3-4
**ASM 300-FB Page 24 Panels 2, 4, 6
**ASM@ 26/2 Pages 1-2
**UO 7 Page 7
**ASM@ 26/2 Page 3-8
PPTSS@ 12/2
WOSM@ 8/2
**ASM 388/2 Pages 1-5 panel 1
**ASM 388/2 (Pages 5 panels 2-4 to page 5 panel 2)~WOSM 18-BTS (Page 22 panels 2-8)
**ASM 388/2 Pages 6 panel 3-page 8
**ASM 388/2 (Pages 9 panels 1-5)~WOSM 24-BTS (Page 8 panel 3-5 to page 9 panel 3)
**ASM 388/2 Pages 9 panel 6 to page 12
**PPTSS2 38-FB page 3 panel 2
{ASM 298}
**UO 7 Page 8 panels 1-2
ASM 299
**UO 7 Page 9 panels 1-2
**ASM 300 Pages 4-18
**UO 7 Page 11 panels 1-2
**ASM 300 Page 19-37
DEF2 10
...
ASM 333-FB
**UO 7 Page 21 panels 3-5
ASM 333
...
ASM 375
**UO 7 Page 23
V:LP 1
...


VENOM [SYMBIOTE]
[added alien race]
**SMF2 1-FB
PPTSS2 4-FB
**VSS 1-FB
remove[M/SHSW 7-BTS]
M/SHSW 8-BTS
...
WOSM 1
**ASM@ 26/2 Pages 1-2
**UO 7 Page 7
**ASM@ 26/2 Page 3-8
PPTSS@ 12/2
WOSM@ 8/2
**ASM 388/2 Pages 1-5 panel 1
**ASM 388/2 (Pages 5 panels 2-4 to page 5 panel 2)~WOSM 18-BTS (Page 22 panels 2-8)
**ASM 388/2 Pages 6 panel 3-page 8
**ASM 388/2 (Pages 9 panels 1-5)~WOSM 24-BTS (Page 8 panel 3-5 to page 9 panel 3)
**ASM 388/2 Pages 9 panel 6 to page 12
**PPTSS2 38-FB page 3 panel 2
{ASM 298}
**UO 7 Page 8 panels 1-2
ASM 299
**UO 7 Page 9 panels 1-2
**ASM 300 Pages 4-18
**UO 7 page 11 panels 1-2
**ASM 300 Page 19-37
DEF2 10
...
ASM 333-FB
**UO 7 Page 21 panels 3-5
ASM 333
...
ASM 375
**UO 7 Page 23
V:LP 1
...


WEYING, ANN
ASM 375-FB
**UO 7
{ASM 375}
...


SPIDER-MAN/PETER BENJAMIN PARKER
...
WOSM 17
**WOSM 18 Pages 1-21
**WOSM 18 (Page 22 panels 2-8) ~ ASM 388/2 (Pages 5 panels 2-4 to page 5 panel 2)
WOSM 19
...
WOSM 23
**WOSM 24 Pages 1-8 panel 2
**WOSM 24 (Page 8 panel 3-5 to page 9 panel 3) ~ ASM 388/2 (Pages 9 panels 1-5)
**WOSM 24 Pages 9 panel 4 to page 22
PPTSS 125
...


WATSON-PARKER, MARY JANE
...
**ASM 299
**UO 7 Page 8 panel 5
ASM 299
**UO 7 Page 9 panel 1
ASM 300
...


BUSHKIN, BARNEY
...
ASM 210
**UO 7
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