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Geraldo Rivera

Post by Paul Bourcier » Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:25 pm

Geraldo Rivera appears on TV in BLAZE 3. I know he's mentioned in GR3 70, but does he make any actual appearances anywhere else?
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Re: Geraldo Rivera

Post by Michael » Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:35 pm

He appears in UX 99.

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Re: Geraldo Rivera

Post by Paul Bourcier » Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:22 am

So he does! Thanks, Michael. And the X-Men Index places him in ASM 117 before that. So far we have...

RIVERA, GERALDO
ASM 117
UX 99
BLAZE 3

I wouldn't be surprised if he made other appearances. Does anyone else know a comic in which he appeared?
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Re: Geraldo Rivera

Post by wolframbane » Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:15 pm

X-Men Annual #2
http://www.comicvine.com/the-x-men-annu ... /37-90585/

Classic X-Men #7 (reprint of UX 99)

Count Duckula #8 (probably not canon)
http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.co ... vealed-83/

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Re: Geraldo Rivera

Post by Paul Bourcier » Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:08 pm

The reference to Rivera in X@ 2 is Cyclops stating that Jonathan Chambers once got hit by a chair on the Geraldo Show. No actual or BTS appearance here. Thanks for checking, though, wolframbane!

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Re: Geraldo Rivera

Post by Paul Bourcier » Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:57 pm

Is looking for another another Geraldo appearance like looking into Al Capone's vaults?
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Re: Geraldo Rivera

Post by wolframbane » Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:24 pm

Well, Geraldo was looking for Al Capone's tomb in Count Duckula #8. Just mentioning it in case the reason you were looking for it was because you knew there was an Al Capone's tomb issue and you couldn't place it but overlooked the Count Duckula #8 issue because you thought it was non-canon. Or not.

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Re: Geraldo Rivera

Post by Peter Fabricius » Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:01 am

He is in Peter Parker the Spectacular Spider-Man #60 and Mary Jane talks to him in Amazing Spider-Man #304, but he can't be identified in the crowd
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Re: Geraldo Rivera

Post by Paul Bourcier » Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:57 pm

I confirm Geraldo's appearance in PPTSS 60. I don't own ASM 304, and the ASM Index notes that Rivera is "mentioned only," not even a BTS appearance. Peter, can you describe this scene to determine if we're seeing an actual or BTS appearance? Thanks.
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Re: Geraldo Rivera

Post by Peter Fabricius » Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:52 am

Sure.

Mary Jane is saying "Geraldo! Hi! Saw your special last Week! Super!"
She is adressing someone in a group of people at a party, and everybody is barely more than a stick-figure in the panel. There is no way to identify anyone directly.
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Re: Geraldo Rivera

Post by Paul Bourcier » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:18 am

So the question is whether we attribute the identity of one of those figures to Geraldo. If M.J. is directly addressing the crowd so it's unlikely that Geraldo is off-panel, then I suppose this counts as an actual appearance. Thoughts?
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Re: Geraldo Rivera

Post by Paul Bourcier » Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:41 am

Unless M.J. is pretending to talk to Geraldo and he's not really there at all, he has to make some kind of appearance here, whether its an actual or a BTS appearance. The question remains: which type of appearance is it?

If M.J. is facing the group of on-panel people while addressing Geraldo, I think we can presume he's one of the stick figures and thus makes an actual (if indistinguishable) appearance. If M.J. is facing off-panel, then Geraldo is BTS. Yes?
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Re: Geraldo Rivera

Post by Russ Chappell » Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:04 am

Paul Bourcier wrote:If M.J. is facing the group of on-panel people while addressing Geraldo, I think we can presume he's one of the stick figures and thus makes an actual (if indistinguishable) appearance. If M.J. is facing off-panel, then Geraldo is BTS. Yes?
Actually, for our purposes, the distinction would be between an actual appearance, and off-panel, or OP. OP is when the character is there, on scene, but literally off-panel. The example I've used before is Thing, eating dinner, saying, "Hey, Torch, would you pass the salt?" Johnny would be OP.

Incidentally, here's the appearance hierarchy:
1. Actual
2. VO (voice-over)
3. OP (off-panel)
4. BTS (behind-the-scenes)

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Re: Geraldo Rivera

Post by Paul Bourcier » Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:42 am

Thanks for the clarification, Russ. So, are we talking ASM 304 or ASM 304-OP for Geraldo?
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Re: Geraldo Rivera

Post by Russ Chappell » Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:09 am

When Peter says this:
Peter Fabricius wrote:everybody is barely more than a stick-figure in the panel. There is no way to identify anyone directly.
He's including Mary Jane in "everybody."

Imagine a photo taken from the top of a skyscraper that includes a mass of people on the sidewalk below. Mary Jane is no more distinguishable than anyone else; there's no one to tell which way she's facing.

Having said that, I believe the illustration is meant to encompass everyone present. If Geraldo were off-panel, he would be too far away for Mary Jane to address. I would go with an actual on-screen appearance. That may differ from the Index, but that's simply because our definition of the terms is different. It may also upset someone who wants to collect every Geraldo appearance, and is disappointed when they buy the book and discover the nature of the app, but such is life. Simply put, Geraldo is there, and our edict is clear.

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