Re: ORIGINAL SIN to AXIS
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 9:55 pm
Deadpool vs. Carnage 1-4 ended up getting placed before Original Sin, because Deadpool mentioned he's still with the Thunderbolts (and that Venom's still on the team, so during TB3 20). As mentioned, Deadpool vs. X-Force 1-4 takes place entirely in the past. Hawkeye vs. Deadpool #0-4 line up nicely pre-AXIS. Deadpool references his book's current status (has a kid, married, etc), Hawkeye fits nicely between the seriously-delayed volume and the All-New volume, and Black Cat appears in her post ASM3 6 status quo. That's all fine.
Nova v5 #22 happens on Halloween, and ends with him being called into AXIS by Steve Rogers. Hawkeye vs. Deadpool also happens on Halloween. This can't happen during AXIS, because Deadpool isn't inverted in this mini. So, there has to be a gap of time in Nova #22, and this & Hawk vs Dpool happen shortly before that crossover.
Deadpool #35 references Wolverine's death, but also seems to lead directly into #36, which is an AXIS tie-in. A gap of time is going to have to be put into #35 to accommodate the rest of the universe, and the only spot I'm seeing is between pages 18 & 19. It looks like Hawkeye vs. Deadpool is going to have to go in this gap.
Deadpool's Art of War #1-4, I don't see how it can happen on Earth-616. Deadpool kills Sun Tzu (via time travel?), then decides to write a book. The publisher is only interested if Deadpool can start a war to promote the book. So, Deadpool starts a war in Asgard. He researches Loki, finds out he's a teenager, so gets a past version of Loki (circa Silver Surfer #4). However, Asgard is "classic" Asgard (not on Earth, not floating in space) and Odin's alive (so that means somewhere in comics from 2001 at the latest). Also, no Asgardian is surprised to see adult Loki (does that mean the entire series happens circa SS #4? No, because the current day publisher references the war in #4 as recent). And yet, all the heroes appear in their 2015 costumes (black & red Cyclops with wonky powers, time-displaced X-Men, etc.).
There is no point where there's a classic Asgard and black & red Cyclops with wonky powers is happening at the same time, so this mini can't be canon to 616. Also, it's not in Deadpool's imagination, because (as mentioned before) the publisher references the events of the mini.
Oh well. It was a fun mini.
All-New Ghost Rider 1-10 was also placed before Original Sin.
Legendary Star-Lord #1-4, Rocket Raccoon v2 #1-4 and Silver Surfer v? #4-6 were all published at the same time as GOTG3 17-20. GOTG3 17 ends a previous arc, and GOTG3 18-20 are Original Sin tie-ins.
Silver Surfer v? #4-5 guest stars the Guardians (in Earth orbit, again), and happens over two days. #6 happens some time later, and starts a new story.
Legendary Star-Lord #1-4 happen in pretty quick order, and have to happen after ANX 30.
Rocket Raccoon v2 #1-4 happen in pretty quick order, and some of the other Guardians appear.
Here’s where we’re at:
ORIGINAL SIN
Thor: God of Thunder 25-FB
DD6 6 (7:3 - 10)
FF5 6-8 (1-4)
DD6 6 (11-20), 7
All-New Invaders 7
Avengers v5 25-27
Avengers v5 28 / All-New Invaders 8
All-New Invaders 9-10 & 11-FB
Avengers v5 29-34 / New Avengers v3 16-23
MA2 11-14
UX3 19-24 / ANX 26-31 / UX3 24-31 / ANX 31-36 (view the near future in 36 where lady Thor appears)
GOTG3 18-20
Spider-Man 2099 v2 1
SECA3 5-15
Elektra v? 1-11 (after SECA3 5-15 for Lady Bullseye)
Magneto v? 5-8 (after Elektra v? #1-2 for Scalphunter)
All-New X-Factor 5-13
Bucky Barnes: the Winter Soldier #1-11
Deadly Hands of Kung Fu #1-4
Storm v? 1-3
Silver Surfer v? 4-5
DD6 8-10
Amazing X-Men v2 13
CA7 12-25 (Steve Rogers is aged, Sam Wilson becomes Cap)
Inhuman 7-8
S-H7 7-11, 12 (1-18)
Legendary Star-Lord 1-4
DD6 11-12
NW5 10-12 (Rogers is old, Wilson is Cap, Havok w/Avengers)
UA 23 (Wolverine’s alive) (Rogers is old)
UA 24-FB (Wolverine “leaves” Avengers)
Rocket Raccoon v2 1-4
All-New Invaders 11-13
DPOOL B@ 1
Death of Wolverine #1-4 (Wolverine dies, duh)
Death of Wolverine: Weapon X Program 1-2
Death of Wolverine: Deadpool & Captain America
DPOOL5 35 (1 - 18)
Storm v? 4-8
Nightcrawler v? 7
Death of Wolverine: Life After Logan
Death of Wolverine: Logan Legacy 2-6
Death of Wolverine: Weapon X Program 3-5
Death of Wolverine: Logan Legacy 1, 7
Punisher v? 1-9 / Black Widow v? 8-11 (Wolverine’s dead)
Spider-Man 2099 v2 2-4
XFOR4 5-7 (after Punisher for Domino)
X3 18-22
XFOR4 8-15
DD6 13
W&X2 10-11 (after XFOR4 for Fantomex)
FF5 8 (11-20) - 10, @ 1 & 11 (1-14)
MSM3 12
Silver Surfer v? 6-7
DD6 14-18 & 15.1
NO5 20-22 (1-19:2)
Hawkeye vs. Deadpool 0-4
All-New X-Factor 14 (the “other day” before AXIS)
Magneto v? 9
UA 24-25 / Magneto v? 10 (directly before AXIS)
AXIS
Nova v5 #22 happens on Halloween, and ends with him being called into AXIS by Steve Rogers. Hawkeye vs. Deadpool also happens on Halloween. This can't happen during AXIS, because Deadpool isn't inverted in this mini. So, there has to be a gap of time in Nova #22, and this & Hawk vs Dpool happen shortly before that crossover.
Deadpool #35 references Wolverine's death, but also seems to lead directly into #36, which is an AXIS tie-in. A gap of time is going to have to be put into #35 to accommodate the rest of the universe, and the only spot I'm seeing is between pages 18 & 19. It looks like Hawkeye vs. Deadpool is going to have to go in this gap.
Deadpool's Art of War #1-4, I don't see how it can happen on Earth-616. Deadpool kills Sun Tzu (via time travel?), then decides to write a book. The publisher is only interested if Deadpool can start a war to promote the book. So, Deadpool starts a war in Asgard. He researches Loki, finds out he's a teenager, so gets a past version of Loki (circa Silver Surfer #4). However, Asgard is "classic" Asgard (not on Earth, not floating in space) and Odin's alive (so that means somewhere in comics from 2001 at the latest). Also, no Asgardian is surprised to see adult Loki (does that mean the entire series happens circa SS #4? No, because the current day publisher references the war in #4 as recent). And yet, all the heroes appear in their 2015 costumes (black & red Cyclops with wonky powers, time-displaced X-Men, etc.).
There is no point where there's a classic Asgard and black & red Cyclops with wonky powers is happening at the same time, so this mini can't be canon to 616. Also, it's not in Deadpool's imagination, because (as mentioned before) the publisher references the events of the mini.
Oh well. It was a fun mini.
All-New Ghost Rider 1-10 was also placed before Original Sin.
Legendary Star-Lord #1-4, Rocket Raccoon v2 #1-4 and Silver Surfer v? #4-6 were all published at the same time as GOTG3 17-20. GOTG3 17 ends a previous arc, and GOTG3 18-20 are Original Sin tie-ins.
Silver Surfer v? #4-5 guest stars the Guardians (in Earth orbit, again), and happens over two days. #6 happens some time later, and starts a new story.
Legendary Star-Lord #1-4 happen in pretty quick order, and have to happen after ANX 30.
Rocket Raccoon v2 #1-4 happen in pretty quick order, and some of the other Guardians appear.
Here’s where we’re at:
ORIGINAL SIN
Thor: God of Thunder 25-FB
DD6 6 (7:3 - 10)
FF5 6-8 (1-4)
DD6 6 (11-20), 7
All-New Invaders 7
Avengers v5 25-27
Avengers v5 28 / All-New Invaders 8
All-New Invaders 9-10 & 11-FB
Avengers v5 29-34 / New Avengers v3 16-23
MA2 11-14
UX3 19-24 / ANX 26-31 / UX3 24-31 / ANX 31-36 (view the near future in 36 where lady Thor appears)
GOTG3 18-20
Spider-Man 2099 v2 1
SECA3 5-15
Elektra v? 1-11 (after SECA3 5-15 for Lady Bullseye)
Magneto v? 5-8 (after Elektra v? #1-2 for Scalphunter)
All-New X-Factor 5-13
Bucky Barnes: the Winter Soldier #1-11
Deadly Hands of Kung Fu #1-4
Storm v? 1-3
Silver Surfer v? 4-5
DD6 8-10
Amazing X-Men v2 13
CA7 12-25 (Steve Rogers is aged, Sam Wilson becomes Cap)
Inhuman 7-8
S-H7 7-11, 12 (1-18)
Legendary Star-Lord 1-4
DD6 11-12
NW5 10-12 (Rogers is old, Wilson is Cap, Havok w/Avengers)
UA 23 (Wolverine’s alive) (Rogers is old)
UA 24-FB (Wolverine “leaves” Avengers)
Rocket Raccoon v2 1-4
All-New Invaders 11-13
DPOOL B@ 1
Death of Wolverine #1-4 (Wolverine dies, duh)
Death of Wolverine: Weapon X Program 1-2
Death of Wolverine: Deadpool & Captain America
DPOOL5 35 (1 - 18)
Storm v? 4-8
Nightcrawler v? 7
Death of Wolverine: Life After Logan
Death of Wolverine: Logan Legacy 2-6
Death of Wolverine: Weapon X Program 3-5
Death of Wolverine: Logan Legacy 1, 7
Punisher v? 1-9 / Black Widow v? 8-11 (Wolverine’s dead)
Spider-Man 2099 v2 2-4
XFOR4 5-7 (after Punisher for Domino)
X3 18-22
XFOR4 8-15
DD6 13
W&X2 10-11 (after XFOR4 for Fantomex)
FF5 8 (11-20) - 10, @ 1 & 11 (1-14)
MSM3 12
Silver Surfer v? 6-7
DD6 14-18 & 15.1
NO5 20-22 (1-19:2)
Hawkeye vs. Deadpool 0-4
All-New X-Factor 14 (the “other day” before AXIS)
Magneto v? 9
UA 24-25 / Magneto v? 10 (directly before AXIS)
AXIS