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Marvel: The Lost Generation #12-1

Post by wolframbane » Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:13 am

I am currently working on a project to fully index various Marvel titles. Below is the link for my full analysis of the MARVEL: THE LOST GENERATION series. Thanks to Paul Bourcier, Col_Fury, Enda and everyone else who contributed.

http://www.geocities.com/marvelindex/lo ... index.html

Here are my placement suggestions for most of the characters within the series. Most have already been added to the MCP, but I have added a few characters and annotated a few changes and updates where necessary. I have expanded some flashbacks with page and panel notations. I have also added some of the character placement notes regarding MARVEL SAGA 1 from:
http://chronologyproject.com/phpbb2/vie ... f=9&t=3435

At the end I have also included a number of historical characters that occurred in real-time during the series (ie Nixon in the 70s), but who also appeared in topical appearances during 1950-80s published comics. Until I figure ut how to integrate the topical and non-topical appearances, I have kept them separate.
http://chronologyproject.com/phpbb2/vie ... 51&p=22495

ANT-MAN/DR. HENRY J. PYM
A 227-FB
TTA 44-FB ~ WCA2 33-FB
*ST 75/4 (moved, he was a lab assistant working with Albert Poole on a project to create a growth serum (who finally giving it up to build a robot) before he worked on Pym Particles)
M/:LG 12
*M/SAGA 1 (4:6)
{TTA 27-FB}
...

AXIS/
M/:LG 6

*BATOR, ULAN (new addition)
{RED RAVEN COMICS 1/7}

BEY, JAMEEL (changed name from Jameel, last name from Marvel Atlas)
M/:LG 9

BLACK FOX/ROBERT W. PAINE
*M/:LG 5 (12:3-13:3)-FB
M/:LG 2
*M/:LG 8 (8:4-9:1, 9:3)-FB
M/:LG 3
M/:LG 4
M/:LG 5
M/:LG 6
M/:LG 7
M/:LG 8
M/:LG 9
*M/:LG 1 (11-21)-FB (lettercol in M/:LG 1 places this between issues 10 and 11, not after 12)
M/:LG 11
{M/:LG 12}

*BLACKJACK II/ (changed to II because of earlier Blackjack in HUMAN TORCH COMICS 4/2)
M/:LG 2
M/:LG 6
{M/:LG 9}

BLOODSTONE, ULYSSES
...
M/U 7
M/:LG 2
{M/PRS 1}
...

BYRRAH/ [ATLANTEAN]
...
SAGASM 5-FB
M/:LG 3
{TTA 90}
...

CAPTAIN AMERICA IV/STEVE ROGERS II
...
CA 155-FB
*M/:LG 1 (2:3-10:4)-FB
{CA 153}
...

CAPTAIN HIP/FRED MACRAE/"HIPSTER" (added Hipster)
M/:LG 3
M/:LG 5
M/:LG 8
M/:LG 9
{M/:LG 10}

CARMODY, MARY
*{RED RAVEN COMICS 1/7} ~ M/:LG 9 (3:3-5)-FB (changed RED RAVEN 9 to RED RAVEN 1/7)
M/:LG 9

*CHIMERA/COMMANDER ZUHN/"WINGET" (also used human name of Winget)
*M/:LG 4 (1-3:6)-FB
*M/:LG 4 (18:4-19:4)-FB
*M/:LG 2 (had an appearance in this issue)
M/:LG 4

DIABLO
...
AF 21-FB
M/:LG 8
FF 30
...

DOCTOR DRUID/ANTHONY LUDGATE/"ANTHONY DRUID"
...
M/U 7
M/:LG 2
{H2 209}
...

DOCTOR MIME
M/:LG 11

DOCTOR STRANGE II/DR. STEPHEN STRANGE
...
DSDDGN-FB
M/:LG 8
M/:LG 12
*M/SAGA 1 (5:3)
{ST 110/3}
...

*DORREK VII, EMPEROR [SKRULL] (added Emperor and VII)
M/:LG 11-FB
{FF 18}
...

EFFIGY/LT. VELMAX/"JACOB SCOTT" [SKRULL]
*M/:LG 4 (1-3:6)-FB
*M/:LG 4 (18:4-19:4)-FB
*M/:LG 1 (2:3-10:4)-FB
M/:LG 2
M/:LG 3
M/:LG 4
M/:LG 5
M/:LG 6
M/:LG 7
M/:LG 9
M/:LG 10
M/:LG 11
{M/:LG 12}

ETERNAL BRAIN/PROFESSOR WILLIAM CARMODY
*{RED RAVEN COMICS 1/7} ~ M/:LG 9 (3:3-5)-FB (changed RED RAVEN 9 to RED RAVEN 1/7)
M/:LG 9
M/:LG 10
M/:LG 11
{M/:LG 12}

FANDRAL
...
T 416/2
M/:LG 5
M/SH3 15/3
...

FIREFALL II
M/:LG 6
M/:LG 11
{M/:LG 12}

*FITZPATRICK, JIM (new addition)
{RED RAVEN COMICS 1/7} ~ M/:LG 9 (3:3-5)-FB
M/:LG 9

*FITZWILLIAM DARE, ROSSALYN (new addition)
M/:LG 7

FLATIRON/RUSSELL
M/:LG 7
M/:LG 9
{M/:LG 12}

*FRANK (new addition, resembles Frankenstein Monster)
M/:LG 5

FURY, COL. NICHOLAS "NICK" JOSEPH
...
NF3 38-FB
M/:LG 9
M/:LG 10
W/NF-FB
...

*GADFLY/T. RUTH "TRUTH" MACRAE (changed Ruth MacRae to full name)
*M/:LG 5-BTS (mother reveals she is pregnant, and her pregnancy is why Rumor could control her)
M/:LG 8
M/:LG 9
M/:LG 10
M/:LG 11
{M/:LG 12}

HITLER, ADOLF
...
SGTF 35
GSINV 2
*M/:LG 5 (12:3-13:3)-FB (Col_Fury suggested placement here, uncertain if it is currently before or after GSINV 2)
SGTF 41
...

HOGUN
...
T 474-FB
M/:LG 5
M/SH3 15/3
...

HOWLER/LUKE GARROW
M/:LG 4
{M/:LG 6}

HULK/DR. ROBERT BRUCE BANNER
...
H2 -1-FB
M/:LG 12
*M/SAGA 1 (4:5)
W/H 3-FB
H3 15-FB
{H 1}
...

HUMAN TORCH II/JOHNNY STORM
...
FF 2
*M/:LG 1-BTS (appears in newspaper photograph anout FF 2)
FF 3
...
WTS 6
FF 99
M/:LG 7
FF 99
*FF 99 ~ M/:LG 7 (5-11, 13-21)
FF 99
FF 100
...

IKARIS/IKE HARRIS [ETERNAL]
...
X:HY 21
M/:LG 1
{E 1}
...

INVISIBLE WOMAN/SUE STORM RICHARDS
...
FF 11-FB
M/:LG 12
TG 10-FB
...
FF 2
*M/:LG 1-BTS (appears in newspaper photograph anout FF 2)
FF 3
...
FF 99
WTS 5
M/:LG 7
FF 99
...

JAMESON, J. JONAH
...
*ASM 140 (10)-FB (added pg number)
*M/:LG 1-BTS (wrote newspaper article about FF)
UTSM 12-FB
...

*KATYUSHA/ANYA (added first name)
M/:LG 6
M/:LG 7
*{M/:LG 12} (first actual appearance, seen briefly on page 3)

*KHADIJAH, DR. (added Dr.)
M/:LG 9

*KNIGHT TEMPLAR/IAN FITZWILLIAM DARE (changed from Templar to Knight Templar, his full name)
M/:LG 7
{M/:LG 12}

KRANG [ATLANTEAN]
SAGASM 1-FB

SAGASM 5-FB
M/:LG 3
{FF@ 1}
...

KRO [DEVIANT]
...
E:HEROD-FB
M/:LG 10
{E 1}
...

*LIBERTY GIRL/BEVERLY "BEV" (full first name from OHOTMU:Teams)
M/:LG 2
M/:LG 3
{M/:LG 4}

LOCKE, DR. ALEXANDER M.
*M/:LG 7 (12:4)-FB (appears in montage of early photos)
M/:LG 8
M/:LG 7
M/:LG 6
M/:LG 2
M/:LG 1

LOCKE, DR. CASSANDRA
*M/:LG 7 (12:4)-FB (appears in montage of early photos)
ASM2 16
{M/:LG 12}
M/:LG 10
M/:LG 9
M/:LG 8
M/:LG 4
*M/:LG 7 (1-4)
*M/:LG 7 (5-11, 13-21) ~ FF 99-BTS
*M/:LG 3 (14:2)
*M/:LG 7 (22) ~ M/:LG 3 (14:3-15:1)
*M/:LG 3 (15-22)
*M/:LG 1 (2:3-10:4)-FB (was not listed originally as a FB)

MAKKARI/MIKE KHARY/"INVISIBLE MAN"/"ADAM CLAYTON"/"JAKE CURTISS"/"MICHAEL CURRY"/"MAJOR MERCURY"/HURRICANE [ETERNAL]
...
M/U 7
M/:LG 2
M/:LG 5
*M/:LG 12-BTS (not depicted, OHOTMU:Golden Age reveals he was there)
E 5
...

MAKO
M/:LG 3
{M/:LG 12}

MR. FANTASTIC/REED RICHARDS
...
FF3 5-FB
M/:LG 11
FF3 18-FB
...
BFF:RR 3-FB
M/:LG 12
NW 4-FB
...
FF 2
*M/:LG 1-BTS (appears in newspaper photograph anout FF 2)
FF 3
...
FF 99
M/:LG 7
FF 99
...

MR. JUSTICE/TIMOTHY CARNEY/"KID JUSTICE" (added Kid Justice)
M/:LG 3
M/:LG 4
M/:LG 5
M/:LG 6
M/:LG 7
*M/:LG 9 (3:3-5)-FB
M/:LG 9
*M/:LG 1 (11-21)-FB (lettercol in M/:LG 1 places this between issues 10 and 11, not after 12)
M/:LG 11
{M/:LG 12}

MORPH
M/:LG 10

NAMORA/AQUARIA NAUTICA NEPTUNIA [ATLANTEAN]
...
CV2 1
M/:LG 2
{SUB-M 33-FB}
N 20-FB
M/:LG 3
SUB-M 51-FB
...

NIGHTINGALE/
M/:LG 2
M/:LG 3
M/:LG 4
M/:LG 6
M/:LG 9
{M/:LG 12}

NOCTURNE/
*M/:LG 8 (16:2-5)-FB
M/:LG 7
*M/:LG (8:4-9:1, 9:3)-FB-BTS
M/:LG 8
M/:LG 11
{M/:LG 12}

*NOMAD III/JACK MONROE/"BUCKY III" (added Bucky III)
...
CA 155-FB
*M/:LG 1 (2:3-10:4)-FB
{CA 153}
...

ODIN
...
BP3 47
M/:LG 5
M/SH3 15/3
...

*OMEGA-20, EUGENE "GENE" (full name was Eugene Omega-20 from M/:LG 1, not simply Omega-20 or Eugene)
M/:LG 7
M/:LG 6
M/:LG 2
M/:LG 1

*OXBOW/SAM MATONABBE (added real name)
M/:LG 4
M/:LG 5
M/:LG 6
M/:LG 7
M/:LG 8-BTS
M/:LG 9
M/:LG 10
{M/:LG 12}

*PEG-LEG MARTIN (new addition)
{RED RAVEN COMICS 1/7}

PIXIE [ETERNAL]
M/:LG 3
M/:LG 4
M/:LG 5
M/:LG 6
M/:LG 7
M/:LG 8
M/:LG 9
M/:LG 10
*M/:LG 1 (11-21)-FB (lettercol in M/:LG 1 places this between issues 10 and 11, not after 12)
M/:LG 11
{M/:LG 12}
M/:LG 1
X:HY 16
X:HY 21[/b] (removed post-X:HY 21 appearances, they are from an alternate future version)

*PIXIE of EARTH-700 [ETERNAL] (new addition)
M/:LG 7
M/:LG 6
M/:LG 1

POSITRON/"RONNIE"
M/:LG 6
M/:LG 9
{M/:LG 12}

*RAPUNZEL/KORYA (revealed as Skrull spy in X:HY 16, name Korya revealed in Marvel Encyclopedia 6)
M/:LG 10
{M/:LG 11}
X:HY 16-FB
*M/:LG 12 (first actual appearance, but as a dead body)
X:HY 16 (dead body)

REBOUND/
M/:LG 5

REFLEX/
M/:LG 7
M/:LG 9
*{M/:LG 12} (appeared briefly in issue)

RIOT-ACT/
M/:LG 12

*ROSS, GEN. THADDEUS E. "THUNDERBOLT"
H2 291-FB
*XFOR -1-FB (moved, a younger Lt. Ross served with Thunderbird's father)
*H3 81 (added, a younger Major Ross clears young Bruce Banner of charges for attempting to blow up his school)
*H2 -1-FB (moved placement, Ross hires Bruce for the Gamma project)
*M/:LG 12 (Ross and Banner working together)
*M/SAGA 1 (4:5) (Ross and Banner working together, Betty present)
H3 15-FB
{H 1}
...

RUMOR/
M/:LG 5 (12:3-13:3)-FB
M/:LG 5

*SCIMITAR (note that Scimitar from IF 5 should now be Scimitar II)
M/:LG 9

SCYTHE/
M/:LG 2
{M/:LG 6}

*SQUIRE/FITZWILLIAM DARE (added last name, his father was Ian Fitzwillaim Dare)
M/:LG 12

SUB-MARINER/NAMOR MACKENZIE
...
CV 2-FB
*M/:LG 3 (14:2)
*M/:LG 7 (22) ~ M/:LG 3 (14:3-15:1)
*M/:LG 3 (15-22)
SUB-M2 1-FB
...

SUNSHINE/AUTUMN MACRAE
M/:LG 5
M/:LG 8
M/:LG 9
{M/:LG 10}

THING/BENJAMIN J. GRIMM
...
TG 2-FB
M/:LG 11
TG 10-FB
...
FF 2
*M/:LG 1-BTS (appears in newspaper photograph anout FF 2)
FF 3
...
FF 99
M/:LG 7
FF 99
...

THOR
...
VENUS 13/4
M/:LG 5
M/SH3 15/3
...

TYPHOON/
M/:LG 6

UATU
...
CV 2-FB
M/:LG 12
FF 204-FB
...

VALKYRIE II/BRUNNHILDE/SISTER BARBARA DENTON NORRISS/GENEVIEVE CROSS
DEF 108-FB
*M/:LG 5 (as Brunnhilde was in stasis at this time, this may not be her but another given her powers by Enchantress)
{H2 142}
...

VENUS [NAIAD]
...
AOATLAS 1-FB
M/:LG 5
M/VS 1/3
...

VOLSTAG
...
M/SH3 15/2-FB
M/:LG 5
M/SH3 15/3
...

VON VOLTZMANN, FRITZ/"KARL VON HORSTBADEN"
*M/:LG 3 (14:2)
*M/:LG 7 (22)-BTS ~ M/:LG 3 (14:3-15:1)
*M/:LG 3 (15-22)
{ST 161}
...

*VULCAN II/ (changed to II as Hephastus the Greek god preceeds him)
M/:LG 7

VYRRA
N 20-FB
M/:LG 3
N 20-FB
...

WALKABOUT
M/:LG 10
M/:LG 11
{M/:LG 12}

*WOODWARD, BOB (new addition)
M/:LG 7

*YANKEE CLIPPER II/PATRICK "PAT" CARNEY (changed to II as a prior Yankee Clipper was active in WWII in UX 215)
*M/:LG 1 (2:3-10:4)-FB
M/:LG 2
M/:LG 3
{M/:LG 4}
*M/:LG 1 (11-21)-FB
M/:LG 1

*YELLOW CLAW/TZING JAO/"BHAGWAN SRI ANANDA"
...
CA 166-FB
*M/:LG 3 (14:2)
*M/:LG 7 (22) ~ M/:LG 3 (14:3-15:1)
*M/:LG 3 (15-22)
{CA 164}
...

*YETI/KALIBAN (real name of Kaliban given in FF Index)
M/:LG 10
M/:LG 11
*M/:LG 12 (FF 99 was his first appearance, not M/:LG 12)
X:HY 16-FB
*FF 99 ~ M/:LG 7 (5-11, 13-21) (FF 99 was his first appearance, not M/:LG 12)
X:HY 16-FB-BTS
X:HY 16
FF 117

*ZAFINA, PRINCESS (changed from Princess Zafina)
M/:LG 9

ZANKOR/"JAY STEVENSON"
*M/:LG 11 (5:4-5:5)-FB
*M/:LG 11 (9:4-10:4)-FB
*M/:LG 11 (14:3)-FB
M/:LG 11

ZAWADI
...
M/U 7
M/:LG 2

*ZORN, AMBASSADOR (added title)
M/:LG 8
*M/:LG 12 (added appearance)



ARMSTRONG, NEIL ALDEN (TOPICAL)
FF 98
*AT 1/2-FB (new appearance)

*ARMSTRONG, NEIL ALDEN (NON-TOPICAL) (new addition)
M/:LG 6

KENNEDY, JOHN FITZGERALD (TOPICAL)
CS 14
WI? 4
{FF 17}
JIM 96
TOS 41
TOS 43

*KENNEDY, JOHN FITZGERALD (NON-TOPICAL) (new addition)
CS 14
WI? 4
M/:LG 3-BTS
M/:LG 4-BTS

NIXON, RICHARD MILHOUS (TOPICAL)
H2 119
A 82
FF 103
FF 104
H2 139
A 92-BTS
AT 1/2
SUB-M 44-BTS
CA 144
SUB-M 47-BTS
T 187
H2 147
FF 123
H2 152
A 101-BTS
H2 174

*NIXON, RICHARD MILHOUS (NON-TOPICAL) (new addition)
M/PRM 37
M/:LG 7

*OSWALD, LEE HARVEY (new addition)
M/:LG 4
W2 49-FB

*OSWALD, MARINA (new addition)
M/:LG 4

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Re: Marvel: The Lost Generation #12-1

Post by Russ Chappell » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:24 am

Flashbacks are not eligible for concurrent ("~") appearances.

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