Placement of Thor 1999

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Placement of Thor 1999

Post by Paul Bourcier » Sat Sep 11, 2010 12:09 pm

Is there a reason Thor 1999 is placed among comics published in 1998? The Fantastic Four appear in Thor 1999 in costumes that were first introduced in FF3 12, so I'd place Thor 1999 after FF3 12, and that puts the annual among comics published in 1999.

If we move Thor 1999 to just after FF3 12 in the cronologies of Reed, Sue, Ben, Johnny, and Franklin, then we need to move Thor 1999 in Thor's chronology. Thor appears in ASM2 1, as do the FF in their older costumes. Thus Thor should appear in Thor 1999 after ASM2 1. I propose placing Thor 1999 between T2 7 and DD2 16.

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Re: Placement of Thor 1999

Post by Kevin W. » Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:58 pm

I unlocked this topic as to discuss this further. Having just reviewed this Annual myself, it appears to me the placement in different character's chronologies is still not entirely correct.

I break this Annual down into 4 different sections:

1. The "present day" part where Thor visits the FF and they throw a surprise party for him.

2. The "re-flashback" showing the events of Heroes Reborn: The Return #4 (with Thor rescuing Franklin Richards and battling Dr. Doom).

3. A one panel flashback showing Mr. Fantastic putting up machinery in the Thing's bedroom, using his devices to search for Thor's whereabouts (this flashback, as far as I can see, is not in Reed or Ben's chronologies. Is this a reflashback seen previously? I don't think it is, but I guess I should double check).

4. The main flashback of the story showing Thor and Dr. Doom transported to another dimension where they meet Ceranda.

I'm fine with Paul Bourcier's placement of the "present day" sequence above. The flashback involving Ben and Reed needs to go shortly after they arrive back on Earth following "Heroes Reborn: The Return", as it's noted the Reed couldn't stop searching for Thor following the events of "The Return".

Thor's chronology needs revised: the flashback involving Dr. Doom and Ceranda occurs between Heroes Reborn: The Return #4 and the flashback in A3 #1.

Thor's chronology looks like this:

HR:R 4
A3 1-FB
A3 1
A3 2
A3 3
A '01/2-FB
TB 11
TB 12
SS '98
CA3 3
A3 4
CA3 5
CA3 6
CA3 7
T '99 - PRESENT DAY SEQUENCE IN TWO SPOTS? (SEE 2ND SPOT BELOW)
T2 1
T2 2
T2 3
T2 4
A3 5
A3 6
A3 7
A '98
H2 467-FB
A3 8
XM 46
T2 5
SS3 146
A3 10
A3 11
IM '98-FB
ASM2 1
T2 6
T2 7
T '99-FB - (FLASHBACK IN WRONG PLACE)
T '99
T2 16-FB
T '99
DD2 16

I propose it should look like this:

HR:R 4
*T '99-FB
A3 1-FB
A3 1
A3 2
A3 3
A '01/2-FB
TB 11
TB 12
SS '98
CA3 3
A3 4
CA3 5
CA3 6
CA3 7
T2 1
T2 2
T2 3
T2 4
A3 5
A3 6
A3 7
A '98
H2 467-FB
A3 8
XM 46
T2 5
SS3 146
A3 10
A3 11
IM '98-FB
ASM2 1
T2 6
T2 7
T '99
T2 16-FB
T '99
DD2 16

Thing's chronology should have a flashback inserted as follows:

HR:R 4
X 71-FB ~ TB 10-FB
CA3 1
*T '99-FB
FF3 1
FF3 2

Mr. Fantastic's chronology should have a flashback inserted as follows:

HR:R 4
X 71-FB ~ TB 10-FB
CA3 1
*T '99-FB
FF3 1
H2 462

* = New addition to chronology
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