SECRET EMPIRE to WAR of the REALMS

[Col_Fury]

SENTRY3 5 finishes up the plot; current placement still seems to work.

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TSTRK:IM 1 happens at least after A7 1-6. Stark has a new company. Jim Rhodes, Bethany Cabe and Jocasta are supporting characters! Controller is the villain! It actually feels like an honest to Kirby Iron Man book!

TSTRK:IM 2 says that TSIM 1 was “last week.” Sunset Bain!

TSTRK:IM 3 has no real mention of how long it’s been since TSIM 2.

TSTRK:IM 4 has no real mention of how long it’s been since TSIM 3, but Cabe says she’s been working with Jocasta for at least a month.

[Col_Fury]

Here's what I have for Spider-Geddon so far:

SGEDDON 0/2 ["7 months ago"]
……
SUOCT 1
……
SGWEN:GS 1 (1-8) (team-gathering)
SUOCT 1/2 (team-gathering)
ESGEDDON 1 (team-gathering)
SGEDDON 1 (team's together)
SGEDDON 2 (1-16:2)
PPSSM 311, 312?, SGEDDON 2 (16:3)
ESGEDDON 2 (1-20:2)
SGEDDON 2 (16:4)
ESGEDDON 2 (20:3-20:6)
SGEDDON 2 (17:1-17:2)
SGEDDON 0
SGEDDON 2 (17:3-20:2)
SGWEN:GS 1 (9:4-10)
SGEDDON 2 (20:3-20:4) (stranded)
SGWEN:GS 1 (11-20) (still stranded)
ESGEDDON 3 (1-12)-FBs (pre-recruitment)
ESGEDDON 4 (recruitment)
SGIRLS 1 (recruitment)
VAULTOS 1
SFOR 1-FB (recruitment)
SFOR 1
SGEDDON 3
……
ESGEDDON 3 (13-20)-FBs (after everything)
ESGEDDON 3

STILL TO DO:

PETER PARKER, THE SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN #313
SPIDER-FORCE #2-3
SPIDER-GEDDON #4-5
SPIDER-GIRLS #2-3
SPIDER-GWEN: GHOST-SPIDER #2-3
SPIDER-MAN: ENTER THE SPIDER-VERSE #1
SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN v2 #1
VAULT OF SPIDERS #2

As mentioned earlier, this has to be after PPSSM 310. Also, this has to be after at least FCBD2018:ASM (Peter and Randy are roommates in PPSSM 311), if not ASM5 5 (SGEDDON 1-2 came out the same month as ASM 7-8). There is also some possible hairy-ness with BRSCRS 18-25 (also as mentioned earlier), but I think we'll have to wait until the mini's over to see how things shake out to know anything for sure.

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Added SFOR 1 & VAULTOS 1.

[StrayLamb]

“DAZZLER: X-SONG #1” was originally solicited as “DAZZLER #43” and was published eight months later. I’m leaning toward placing it early on after SECEMP along with the other “continued numbering” one-shots. Also, it doesn’t say “X-SONG” anywhere on the cover, just “DAZZLER.” So, I guess this is DAZZ3 1.

This one is titled "Dazzler: X-Song" in the indicia, which would be the official title of the publication.

[Clive_Reston]

Today's Marvel 2-In-One #11 is definitely after the Fantastic Four return. It also notes that the Multisect from earlier storylines was destroyed in PPSSM 309, so PPSSM 308-309, I suspect, will have to go after M/2IO 10. (Remind me why those Peter Parker issues are before ASM6 1 -FB, again?)

[Col_Fury]

Peter's still working at the Bugle in PPSSM 308-309, and Peter is fired from the Bugle in ASM5 1-FB.

I didn't realize the Multisect was destroyed in PPSSM 309 (the issue wasn't very clear on that bit), but that's what they say in M/2IO 11 so there you go.

(I still wonder how Ben and Johnny got the Multisect back. Whatsername left with it in M/2IO; that's what stranded them in that reality for "weeks")

Also, strangely, Ben mentions in M/2IO 11 that no one's seen Doom since IM 600. Um, Ben saw him in M/2IO 3-7, which is where Doom went missing...

But yes, M/2IO 11 is definitely after FF6 1-2 (or 3 or 4, whenever the plot wraps up).

[Somebody]

Also, strangely, Ben mentions in M/2IO 11 that no one's seen Doom since IM 600. Um, Ben saw him in M/2IO 3-7, which is where Doom went missing...

Umm, IM 600 is after M/2IO 7, since Doom's face is messed up again in IM 600 and fine in M/2IO. Zdarsky even says outright "This Annual and issue seven of our main series precede Invincible Iron Man #600" in this Newsarama interview.

(Also, 2I0 11 appears to confirm that the head Reed in the Annual *was* MU Reed, which was implied but not stated at the time.)

[Clive_Reston]

Peter's still working at the Bugle in PPSSM 308-309, and Peter is fired from the Bugle in ASM5 1-FB.

Ah, I see the confusion! Most of ASM5 1 happens in a single day, and it's mostly told in flashback: Peter dreams about MJ, wakes up, interacts with his roommates, and then most of the rest of the day (the ESU press conference, getting fired from the Bugle, lunch with MJ, seeing Aunt May after the afternoon edition of the Bugle comes out, etc.) is little flashbacks during the fight with Mysterio's creature that happens that evening. But the one flashback that happens "a few weeks" earlier is his encounter with Kingpin at the bank, which I think can still precede PPSSM 308-309.

[Col_Fury]

The reason Peter has to room with Randy and Boomerang is because he was fired from the Bugle (less income). Peter's already rooming with those guys in ASM5 1, so him getting fired in ASM5 1 has to be a flashback.

Basically, ASM5 1's "main story" is Peter waking up because Boomerang is playing his video games too loud, making his way across town as Spider-Man and fighting an "alien invasion" with a bunch of other heroes, smooching with Mary Jane then making it to his appointment at ESU to find out the Lizard is his new graduate supervisor (meanwhile, across town, Mysterio's arraignment). Everything else (Kingpin, plagiarism, fired from Bugle, meeting with Mary Jane then with May) is a flashback that happens "weeks ago" (except for the black suit/Mary Jane scene).

ASM5 1-FBs (fired from Bugle, etc.) ["weeks" before ASM5 1]
FCBD2018:ASM (gets an apartment w/Randy & Boomerang)
ASM5 1 (already rooming with Randy & Boomerang)

Pete's moved a lot this year! After SECEMP, he had to leave his fancy place (1) and move in with with Mockingbird (2), then found an apartment on his own (3) with his Bugle salary, then had to downgrade and have roommates (4). Four different places in less than six months!

Also, thanks for the M/2IO / IM 600 stuff!

[Clive_Reston]

After looking more closely at the issues, I'm afraid I'm going to have to double down on my version of the timeline. In the FCBD story, Peter refers to Robbie as "my boss at the Daily Bugle," and Randy asks him "don't you work in the science section now?" as they're looking at apartments. At the beginning of ASM5 1, Randy is "the son of my boss at the Daily Bugle"; Peter is getting up for "that early-morning press conference at E.S.U." Near the end of that story, after he's defeated Mysterio, he refers to "this day full of professional disgrace, personal struggle, and brushes with mortality"...

[Col_Fury]

I stand corrected! Well done, sir!

Not that it matters a great deal, but in this case I'll say there's a break of a few days after the smooching and Mysterio's arraignment (and Peter's ESU arrangement scene).

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EXTRMNTN 4 continues to barrel through the plot.

MG&DDINO 36 finishes the plot and has autumn weather. Next issue is going to be a holiday story.

OML2 50 ends the fight between the old man and Maestro, but has the old man collapse afterwards. This might be a cliffhanger for DML (which of course isn't out yet). This (and the previous several issues) might have to happen after EXTRMNTN.

X:BLK-EFROST has Emma taking over the Hellfire Club. The Apocalypse back-up seems to suggest Apocalypse was sequestered on Earth (on an island in the ocean) by the Celestials the entire time he's been gone.

[Col_Fury]

RUN5 1-2 happens over maybe an hour.

RUN5 3 is most likely the day after #2 (maybe two days later), and is in the middle of a school semester. The weather seems nice wherever Karolina’s school is.

RUN5 4 is most likely the day after #3. The weather seems autumn-y wherever Molly’s grandmother is.

RUN5 5 might be the day after #4, but Gert says that she’s been back for a week. So a week since #1? Also, #5 seems to span some time, but who knows how long. #6 picks up from #5’s end and happens in a night. Old Lace is knocked out from cat food eaten last issue, so maybe the time span was between #4-5 and #5 happens in a day. Happens at a time when the Avengers are a thing (published same month as A 679-682, but there aren’t any guest stars).

RUN5 7 has Molly saying that she’s missed 3 days of school, so I guess we’re 3 days after #6. Also, we’re still in the middle of a school semester.

RUN5 8 is the day after #7 (Julie Power calls in #7 to say she’s arriving tomorrow). #9 starts the same day as #8 and lasts two days. #10 is the same day as #9. #10 has a flashback to the ‘60s featuring the Enchantress, who is sad that Thor chose a mortal woman over her.

RUN5 11 seems to be within a few days of #10 but doesn’t have to be (Karolina is still sad that Julie dumped her). #11-FB is “about a week ago” and has the kids visiting Klara, who’s happy in her new foster home.

RUN5 12 starts at some later point after #11; no real mention of how long it’s been. Ends on a cliffhanger. #13 happens on the same night as #12. #14 happens on the same night as #12, it’s getting close to Christmas and finals are in the very near future (meaning we're in mid-December).

I'm really digging this volume of Runaways.

[StrayLamb]

SM2 240 is currently positioned between P 227 (1-3) and P 227 (4-20), along with IM 597-600. It's noted that it's "weeks" after SM2 240-FB, but actually the "weeks" pass during the issue.

SM2 240 (1-2:3) [Miles wakes to learn he's been flown back to the States, and is in a military hospital - head, chest, arms and leg bandaged]
SM2 240 (2:4-7) [Flashback to the end of the battle in Latveria]
SM 240 (8-10) [Miles learns he's been unconscious for 34 hours and is suffering from a viral infection; Tony Stark arrives and tells him the incident in Latveria was "last week", then he lapses back into unconsciousness - immediately after pages 1-2:3]
SM2 240 (11-12) [The Champions visit Miles in hospital, and Lana tells him she's been waiting "two weeks" to thank him, then he blacks out again - still heavily bandaged]
SM2 240 (13-14) [Sometime later, Aaron visits Miles late at night - Miles blacks out again - head no longer bandaged]
SM2 240 (15-17) [Sometime later, Miles wakes to find Ganke asleep near his bed, and the Amazing Spider-Man dozing outside the room on a web-hammock; Gangke tells Miles Spidey's been there the whole time, but he clearly wasn't there in previous scenes - chest no longer bandaged, but still has bandaged arm]
SM2 240 (18-20) [Sometime later, Miles is released from hospital, and his parents tell him they have someone important for him to meet, but first he goes to the movies with Ganke - arm no longer bandaged]

I realize the position of IM 600 may be in flux due to Somebody's revelation, but as it stands now, SM2 240 should probably be interspersed between other titles between SM2 234-239 & 240-FB and it's current position.

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SM2 234-239 & SM2 240 (2:4-7)-FB (Goldballs returns) (SHIELD is gone a recent-ish thing) (still no web-shooters) (Stark “gone”) (Red Hulk appears) (Cable appears again) (after INFIM, Lucia von Bardas appears) (Champions appear) [3 or 5 days long]
SM2 240 (1-2:3) [Miles wakes to learn he's been flown back to the States, and is in a military hospital - head, chest, arms and leg bandaged]
SM 240 (8-10) [Miles learns he's been unconscious for 34 hours and is suffering from a viral infection; Tony Stark arrives and tells him the incident in Latveria was "last week", then he lapses back into unconsciousness - immediately after pages 1-2:3] (Stark appears)
U.S.A 10-12 (Red Hulk de-powered)
SM2 240 (11-12) [The Champions visit Miles in hospital, and Lana tells him she's been waiting "two weeks" to thank him, then he blacks out again - still heavily bandaged](Sam still Nova) (Cho still Hulk)
MK 188-193
X:G@ 1
SM2 240 (13-14) [Sometime later, Aaron visits Miles late at night - Miles blacks out again - head no longer bandaged]
P 220-226, 227 (1-3) ["3 weeks" since TOS 100]
SM2 240 (15-20) [Sometime later, Miles wakes to find Ganke asleep near his bed, and the Amazing Spider-Man dozing outside the room on a web-hammock; Gangke tells Miles Spidey's been there the whole time, but he clearly wasn't there in previous scenes - chest no longer bandaged, but still has bandaged arm]
SM2 240 (18-20) [Miles is released from hospital, and his parents tell him they have someone important for him to meet, but first he goes to the movies with Ganke - arm no longer bandaged] (Miles leaves hospital) [“weeks” after SM2 240-FB]
IM 597-600 (Spider-Miles & Cable appear together)
P 227 (4-20), 228 (Stark appears w/Rhodey)
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[Col_Fury]

Thanks!

Avengers Halloween Special is filled with alternate reality "horror" versions of Marvel characters. Not 616.

Marvel Zombie is a zombie apocalypse story. Not 616 or the Zombies Universe, but something else.

[Col_Fury]

On Daken...let's wait and see. There's three possibilities: (1) Return of Wolverine establishes he's dead - and let's remember here that in ANW he was killed with an anti-healing factor bullet, yet popped back to life over a day later when they cut it out... - (2) ROW establishes a new status quo or (3) He never gets mentioned again in the whole ROW thing and just pops back up some time in future.

It REALLY seems to be Daken in ROW 2, working for the group that captured him in HFW:CK 1-4. Also, Omega Red? I guess I need to get caught up on WX3...

[Col_Fury]

WX3 22-24 is one plot, to be continued in #25 (which comes out next week, I think?). Domno says she plans to make up with Warpath in #22, so I’m going to say this is before DOMINO@ 1 (#22 came out the month before @ 1, so that’s nice). Sauron appears (published after his appearance in BRSCR 20-21).

Deadpool appears and his attitude toward Domino makes me think this is after he wipes his memory (same months as DP7 3-5).

Omega Red’s on the team, so maybe this is still before he appears working for the mysterious group in ROW?

Mystique’s on the team, following up on something from the previous story so likely before X:BLK-MSTQ.

Also, MULTM 5 wraps up the plot and current placement is fine.