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Re: SECRET EMPIRE to INFINITY WARS

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:14 pm
by Col_Fury
An update:

SECEMP
U.S.A 10-FB (cleaning up Hydra cells)
EVVERSE 1-5
VVERSE:WS
VVERSE 1-5
BB 1-7 (Absorbing Man dies)
ROYALS 9-12 (after BB 6)
FCBD2017:ANGOTG, ANGOTG 1-2, 4-8, 10-12
MCM 9, CM6 125-126
SMENII 1-5 (SHIELD shutting down)
SM2 16, 17 (1-12)
DEF5 4 (1-4)-FB
SM2 17 (13-20)
DEF5 4 (6-10)-FB (Defenders already a thing)
SM2 18-19 (Goldballs goes missing)
BB 8, 9 (1-8) (Titania learns about Absorbing Man)
DEF5 3 (10-20), 4-9
BB 9 (9-20), 10 (1-8) (Captain America (Steve) & Unworthy Thor appear)
INHS:JD (1-13)
BB 10 (9-10)
INHS:JD (14-26) ~ BB 10 (11-14)
INHS:JD (27-30)
BB 10 (15-20), 11-12 (Absorbing Man returns)
AMERICA 7-12
USQG2 22-25
ICE 6-7
WX3 12-14
DPV.OML 1-5
DD5 26, 27 (1-7) (no DD appearances until DD5 27-28) (before M/:LEG)
TOS 103 (1-5)-FB ["one month" before TOS 100]
MU3 6-8
X:B 10-12
DS4 25
H4 11
MSM4 19-22 [summer]
SM/DP 23-27
UGP 21-25
IIM3 11
IM 593 (1-9)
M/:LEG (SHIELD’s "last day," Steve has shield & already on the road) (Kingpin running for mayor)
IM 593 (10-16)
CM6 127-129
CHMPS2 12
DS4 26
HAWK5 12-16
ASM4 32 (after M/:LEG)
X:G 9-11
DAZZ3 1
DHAWK 51
MOKF 126
PP 63
SSBL&WP 36
ASM 789 ("weeks" after SECEMP)
DP6 36, DDP 287-291
ASM 790
A6 11
SOV 1-5
FAL2 1-5, 7-FB
DD5 27 (8-20), 28, DD 595 (1-5) (Kingpin becomes NYC mayor)
V 155-158 (Kingpin mayor)
PPSSM2 6, PPSSM 297-307 (Daredevil appears, Black Cat crimelord, Kingpin mayor)
LC 1-5, 166-169
THANOS2 13-18
THANOSLEG (6-7)-FB
THANOS@2 1
ASM 791
X:G 12-15 & X:B 13-15 (Spider-Man & Champions appear)
ICE3 8-10
USQG2 26
DD 595 (6-20), 596
ASM:VINCA / ASM 792 / V 159 / ASM 793 / V 160 / ASM:VINCO (Black Cat crimelord)
V 161
CA 595 [“a few months” after SECEMP]
UA3 30 (after ASM 790)
GOTG 146-150
ASM 794, 795-FB (Bobbi & Peter break up)
X:G 16-20
ANW 25-30
TOS 103 (6-10)-FB ["weeks after" (1-5)-FB]
JG 4-10 (before DS 383-FB)
PHXR:ROJG 1-3 (before GENX2 8)
JG 11 (1-28)
PHXR:ROJG 4-5
X:R@ 1-FB (after BB 12 & X:G 20, before ASTONX4 1)
JG 11 (29-30)
X:R@ 1
TOS 100 (1-7) / SECWARR2 6 (1-7) / TOS 100 (8-20) / SECWARR2 (8-20) (Chernaya coup)
SECWARR2 7-11 (Deadpool, Moon Girl, Ms. Marvel) [the 4 days following TOS 100]
TOS 103 (11-12)-FB ["4 days" after (6-10)-FB]
TOS 101, TOS 102 (1-16)
P 218-219 ["3 days" after TOS 100]
TOS 103 (13-15)-FB, TOS 102 (17-20), TOS 103-104 ["2 days" after TOS 101]
DS 383-FB (Loki becomes Sorcerer Supreme)
USQG2 27-30 (Loki very recently Sorcerer Supreme)
C4 1-5
SECWARR2 12
SM/DP 28-36
DS 381 (Strange a vet)
A 672-674 / CHMPS2 13-15 (Spider-Miles has web-shooters)
CHMPS2 16-18 [“days” after A 674]
CA 696
MU3 9-12
DD 597
ASM 795 (Loki Sorcerer Supreme) (Peter found new apartment)
X:B 16-20
ASM@ 42
GENX2 8-9 & GENX 85-87
DDP 292-296
ASM 796 (Stark gone for “months”)
IM 593 (17-18) (Sam is Falcon (after A6 11), Spider-Miles has web-shooters)
ASM@ 42/2
SH 159-162
ANW 31
CHMPS2 19-21 (Alpha Flight & Capt. Marvel appear) (Vision has been helping w/new ship)
SM2 20-FB
SM2 20-21 (Miles loses web-shooters) (Cable appears) [“two weeks after” SM2 19]
C 150-154
IM 593 (19-22), 594-596, 598-FB (Spider-Miles appears) (Tony gets better, but not publicly)
SM2 234-239 & 240-FB (Goldballs returns) (SHIELD is gone a recent-ish thing) (still no web-shooters) (Stark “gone”) (Red Hulk appears) (Cable appears again) (after INFIM, Lucia von Bardas appears) (Champions appear) [3 or 5 days long]
U.S.A 10-12 (Red Hulk de-powered)
MK 188-193
X:G@ 1
SM2 240 (Miles leaves hospital) (Sam still Nova) (Cho still Hulk) (Stark appears) [“weeks” after SM2 240-FB]
IM 597-600 (Spider-Miles & Cable appear together)
P 220-228 (Stark appears) ["3 weeks" since TOS 100]
SM/DP 37 (Thunderball a villain) [“weeks” after SM/DP 36]
IF5 1-7, IF 73-77
BP6 12 (19-20), BP6 13-18, BP 166-172 (Thunderball reformed?)
ICE3 11
X:G 21-25 (after ICE3 11)
ANW 32
A 675-690 (Cho still Hulk, Spider-Miles, Strange blue cloak, Vision damaged)
WX3 15-16
MG&DDINO 19-23 (Devil Dinosaur gone)
DOMINO3 1-6 (Cho still Hulk, before X-wedding, before WX3 17)
TAH 23 & IH2 709-713 (1-17) (Cho & Unworthy Thor in space) [“1 month” before IH2 713 (18-20]
X:B@ 1 / V 162-163 / X:B 21-22 (nu-X-Men in space)
QS:NS 1-5 (Magneto in Madripoor)
M/TIO2 1
MG&DDINO 24-30 (Devil Dinosaur back)
PPSSM@2 1/2 (Strange in blue cloak)
FAL2 6-8
DS 382-385 (Loki stops as Sorcerer Supreme, Strange gets red cloak back)
BRSCR 8-14 [lead-in to DS:DAMN]
DS:DAMN [“a couple of weeks” after DS 383-FB]
USQG2 31
IH2 713 (18-20) & IH2 714-717 (1-17) (Cho & Unworthy Thor return, Alpha Flight & Capt. Marvel, Spider-Miles) (Cho powered down)
X:B 23-28
VIZED 1-5 (before ASM 800 & MT2 20) (nu-X-Men return from space)
X:B 29-36
DDP 297-300 (Mighty Thor appears)
RG&GAM 1-5
MT2 20-23 & T 700-706 (no more Mighty Thor, Strange still a vet)
DS 390 (Strange no longer a vet) [“less than 2 weeks” after DS:DAMN]
MT:GATES
???THANOSLEG (8-9)-FB (after DS:DAMN, after T5 4)
C 155-159 (before ASTONX4 1-12)
X:WED, X:G 26 (1-15), X:WED /2, X:G 26 (16-20), X:G 27-29, X:WED /3, X:G 30-35 (after RG&GAM & DS:DAMN)
M/TIO2 2
ASTONX4 1-12 (after BB 8 & X:B 35, before OML2 31)
OML2 31-38 (before DD 598)
DD 598-605 (Black Cat crimelord, after DEF 6) (Purple Man still alive) [“about a month” since DD 595 (1-5)]
V 164-165
JJ 12 (9-20), 13-17 (Purple Man dies)
DEF5 10
LC 170
JJ 18
ASM 797-801
CA 597-700 (Stark -BTS, after IM 600)
OML2 39-40
PPSSM@2 1 (after V 165, before MSM4 34 for Shocker)
M/TIO2 3-6 (Thing & Torch unavailable until M/TIO2 10)
ICDWN:CHMPS2 1-2 (Sam stops being Nova)
MG&DDINO 31
OML2 41-42
WX3 17-21
OML2 43-45 [“a few weeks” since OML2 38]
IH2 717 (18-20) [“3 months” after IH2 717 (1-17)]
CHMPS2 22-23 (Vision repaired) (Miles recovering) (Sam no longer Nova)
M/TIO@2 1
M/TIO2 7
ASTONX@2 1
SM@ 1
C&DP@ 1
CHMPS2 24 [early/mid-August]
MG&DDINO 32-??? (Thunderball replaced in Wrecking Crew)
MSM4 23-24 [mid/late-August]
MSM4 25-28 [early/mid-September]
M/R 0
MSM4 29-31[mid-September]
SH 163
M/R:A
USQG2 32-35
M/R:SQG/MSM, M/R:SQG/MSM /2, M/R:MSM/SQG, M/R:MSM/SQG /2, M/R:O (1-28)
X:G 36 [a month or so after X:G 35]
M/R:O (29-30)
EXTRMNTN 1-3
???M/TIO2 8-10 (Thing & Torch return) (before FF6 1)
???PPSSM2 308-309
???FF6 1


STILL TO DO:

AMAZING SPIDER-MAN v5 #1-???
AMAZING SPIDER-MAN ANNUAL v5 #1
ANT-MAN & WASP v2 #1-5
ANT-MAN & WASP: LIVING LEGENDS #1
ASTONISHING X-MEN v4 #13-???
AVENGERS v7 #1-???
AVENGERS HALLOWEEN SPECIAL
AVENGERS: SHARDS OF INFINITY #1
BEN REILLY: SCARLET SPIDER #18-???
BLACK ORDER #1-5
BLACK PANTHER v7 #1-???
BLACK PANTHER ANNUAL v2 #1
BLACK PANTHER: SOUND & FURY #1
BLACK PANTHER vs. DEADPOOL #1-5
CAPTAIN AMERICA v8 #1-???
CAPTAIN AMERICA ANNUAL v2 #1
CHAMPIONS v2 #25-???
CHAMPIONS ANNUAL #1
COSMIC GHOST RIDER #1-5
DAREDEVIL #606-???
DAREDEVIL ANNUAL v5 #1
DEAD MAN LOGAN #1-12
DEADPOOL v7 #1-???
DEADPOOL: ASSASSIN #1-6
DEATH OF THE INHUMANS #1-5
DEFENDERS: BEST DEFENSE #1
DOCTOR STRANGE v5 #1-???
DOCTOR STRANGE: DEFENDERS #1
DOMINO v3 #7-???
DOMINO ANNUAL #1
EDGE OF SPIDER-GEDDON #1-4
EXILES v4 #1-???
EXTERMINATION #4-5
FANTASTIC FOUR v6 #2-???
FANTASTIC FOUR WEDDING SPECIAL v2 #1
FREE COMIC BOOK DAY 2018: AMAZING SPIDER-MAN
FREE COMIC BOOK DAY 2018: AVENGERS (both stories)
HUNT FOR WOLVERINE #1
HUNT FOR WOLVERINE: ADAMANTIUM AGENDA #1-4
HUNT FOR WOLVERINE: CLAWS OF A KILLER #1-4
HUNT FOR WOLVERINE: DEAD ENDS #1
HUNT FOR WOLVERINE: MYSTERY IN MADRIPOOR #1-4
HUNT FOR WOLVERINE: WEAPON LOST #1-4
ICEMAN v4 #1-???
IMMORTAL HULK #1-???
IMMORTAL HULK: DEFENDERS #1
INFINITY COUNTDOWN #1-5
INFINITY COUNTDOWN: ADAM WARLOCK #1
INFINITY COUNTDOWN: BLACK WIDOW #1
INFINITY COUNTDOWN: DAREDEVIL #1
INFINITY COUNTDOWN: DARKHAWK #1-4
INFINITY COUNTDOWN PRIME #1
IRONHEART #1-???
KILLMONGER #1-5
LEGION #1-5
LIFE OF CAPTAIN MARVEL #1-5
LOCKJAW #1-4
MARVEL KNIGHTS 20ᵗʰ #1-6
MARVEL TWO-IN-ONE v2 #11-???
MERRY X-MEN HOLIDAY SPECIAL #1
MILES MORALES: SPIDER-MAN #1
MOON GIRL & DEVIL DINOSAUR #33-???
MOON KNIGHT #194-???
Mr. & Mrs. X #1-???
Ms. MARVEL v4 #32-???
MULTIPLE MAN #1-5
NAMOR: DEFENDERS #1
NEW MUTANTS: DEAD SOULS #1-6
OLD MAN LOGAN v2 #46-50
PETER PARKER, THE SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN #310-???
PUNISHER v12 #1-???
RETURN OF WOLVERINE #1-5
RUNAWAYS v5 #1-???
SEASON'S BEATINGS #1
SENTRY v3 #1-???
SHATTERSTAR #1-5
SHURI #1-???
SILVER SURFER ANNUAL v2 #1
SILVER SURFER: DEFENDERS #1
SPIDER-FORCE #0-3
SPIDER-GEDDON #0-5
SPIDER-GIRLS #1-3
SPIDER-GWEN v2 #25-34
SPIDER-GWEN AKA GHOST-SPIDER #1-???
SPIDER-MAN/DEADPOOL #37-???
SPIDER-MAN: ENTER THE SPIDER-VERSE #1
SUPERIOR OCTOPUS #1-???
SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN v2 #1
THOR v5 #1-???
TONY STARK: IRON MAN #1-???
TYPHOID FEVER: IRON FIST #1
TYPHOID FEVER: SPIDER-MAN #1
TYPHOID FEVER: X-MEN #1
UNBEATABLE SQUIRREL GIRL v2 #36-???
UNCANNY X-MEN v5 #1-???
UNSTOPPABLE WASP v2 #1-???
VAULT OF SPIDERS #1-2
VENOM v4 #1-???
VENOM ANNUAL #1
VENOM: FIRST HOST #1-5
VISION v4 #1-???
WAKANDA FOREVER: AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #1
WAKANDA FOREVER: AVENGERS #1
WAKANDA FOREVER: X-MEN #1
WEAPON H #1-???
WEAPON X v3 #22-???
WEB OF VENOM: CARNAGE BORN #1
WEST COAST AVENGERS v3 #1-???
WINTER SOLDIER v2 #1-???
X-23 v4 #1-???
X-FORCE v5 #1-???
X-MEN: BLACK - EMMA FROST
X-MEN: BLACK - JUGGERNAUT
X-MEN: BLACK - MAGNETO
X-MEN: BLACK - MOJO
X-MEN: BLACK - MYSTIQUE
X-MEN: RED #1-???
X-MEN: THE EXTERMINATED #1

Re: SECRET EMPIRE to INFINITY WARS

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:20 pm
by StrayLamb
Here i go again about Johnny and Ben... :twisted:
You have Falcon 6-8 before M/TIO2 1, but in Falcon 6, Ben & Johnny are working out together with other heroes at the Excelsior gym. In M/TIO 1, Johnny angrily reminds Ben that he told him he didn’t want to see him, or to be reminded of Sue and Reed. I can understand your explanation for their appearance together in Marvel Legacy, but working out together doesn't seem to gel with Johnny's reaction to Ben in M/TIO 1.?

Re: SECRET EMPIRE to INFINITY WARS

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:39 pm
by Col_Fury
I knew I missed something!

Thanks, and all fixed! :thumbsup:

Re: SECRET EMPIRE to INFINITY WARS

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:12 pm
by Col_Fury
ANT&WASP2 1-5 takes place while Wasp is with the Champions (same as CHMPS2 21-24). Ant-Man returns to Earth from his time with the Guardians, so after GOTG 150 (and after ICDWN where he's still with the Guardians). It’s baseball playoff season, so “October” (in theory). There’s a “two week” break near the end of #5 (so either later in October or early November). Ant-Man appears in FF6 2, so this is before that.

Wasp goes missing in CHMPS2 22-23, is still missing in CHMPS2 24 (“early/mid-August”), and is revealed to be in Weirdworld in CHMPS2 25. That plot’s not over yet, so I guess we’ll see how things work out.

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WH 1-2 happens at a point where Doctor Strange is Sorcerer Supreme, has his red cloak and is bearded. So… after DS:DAMN and before DS 390 I guess. Thor / Roxxon villain Dario Agger is the villain.

There could be a break between WH 2-3 if needed.

WH 3-7 has Agger appearing again, as well as Man-Thing (published before and then alongside CHMPS2 22-23). Cap appears in #6-7 (same as A7 6-8 & CA8 2-3). T 706 is referenced in WH 7, so I guess we’re past that by now.

WH 8 starts a new plot where Weapon H is working for Roxxon (Agger and Man-Thing both appear) and heads into Weirdworld (same month as CHMPS2 25). An editor’s note says this happens shortly before (within a week of) IMMH 9 (which I haven’t read any of yet). Ends on a cliffhanger (of course).

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Here’s a bit of overlap:

X:G 30 (1-28)
MR&MRSX 1 (4-10)-FB
X:G 30 (29-30)
MR&MRSX 1 (1-11)
……
MR&MRSX 1 (12-20)

And yes, real Jean is at the wedding.

Pages 12-20 don’t have to be immediately after X:G 30 but should probably be as shortly after as we can get it (these first three issues (what’s out so far) is the honeymoon). Deadpool appears and he remembers recent events, so this should be before DDP 300.

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So far (#5’s not out yet), MULTM happens over a few hours (lots of reality-hopping here). Magik and Strong Guy are working together so this is sometime during NM:DS. I’m going to say between NM:DS 2-3. MULTM 1 came out the same month as X:G 29-30.

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I was confused about the timing in NM:DS 1-6 until the end, but it all makes sense now.

NM:DS 1-5-FBs (Warlock scenes)
NM:DS 6-FB (Moonstar scene) [“3 months ago”]
NM:DS 1 (Alabama)
NM:DS 2 [about a week later]
NM:DS 3-4 (spans 9 days while Magik’s in Limbo)
NM:DS 5-6 (the next day, lasts two days)

So, Warlock explodes, Dani Moonstar (working for Karma) investigates and merges with Warlock (the flashbacks). Karma then forms a new investigations team to track down her brother (off-panel). Later, Issue 1 happens (the group’s been together for a while). Later, issue 2 happens. Later, issues 3-6 happen, which ends in a way that this is (very) likely the last appearance for the involved characters (and if my hunch is right, to be followed up on in UX5).

Magik hallucinates a funeral (in the #3-6 block) where Fantomax appears, so in theory before ASTONX4 1-12. Also clean-shaven Colossus, so in theory before X:G 36. Also clean-shaven Nightcrawler, so in theory before the X:R 1-7-FBs. But again, this is an hallucination with no “real” appearances, so this could just be what Magik’s aware of and not necessarily how things “are” at the time.

Doctor Strange doesn’t appear, but someone poses as him (in the #3-6 block). He’s bearded with his red cloak, so in theory after DS:DAMN and before DS 390, but it’s also said he's unavailable at the moment (implying this is while he’s in space, so after DS5 1 maybe?). It’s not actually Strange, so it could just be he’s “appearing” as the last way Magik saw/remembered him.

Legion is in the hallucination, which means Magik is aware of Legion’s existence. X:L2 ended with Legion making everyone forget about his existence (we all knew that wasn’t going to stick, right?), so I guess this is after LEGION 1-5?

Magik appeared in PHXR:ROJG, DS:DAMN, VIZED and up through X:G 34, so at least NM:DS 3-6 has to be after all of those.

Boom-Boom appears in EXTRMNTN.

Shatterstar is in NM:DS 6 but I don’t think he’s in the same situation as the others. Rictor and Shatterstar are a couple in NM:DS 6. In SRSTAR 1 they’ve broken up (and Rictor appears). SRSTAR 1 came out two months after NM:DS 6.

Huh. LEGION 1-5 entirely ignores the “everyone doesn’t know about Legion” thing. I guess he undid it at some point? No guest stars; this thing happens to the side all by itself.

Re: SECRET EMPIRE to INFINITY WARS

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:39 am
by Col_Fury
ICDWN:AWLOCK 1 follows up on GOTG 150. Only Adam Warlock and Kang appear, so whatever.

ICDWNP 1 features Wolverine (space stone), so most likely after all of those various “Where’s Wolverine?” pages (A 680, ASM 794, BP 170, CA 697, IH2 714, IM 598, M/TIO2 3, T 703 & X:R 2). And probably after X:G 30. Turk has the mind stone; Kingpin has been NYC mayor for a bit now. Captain Marvel has the reality stone (so after CM6 129). The Nova Corps and the Guardians are still guarding the (giant) power stone. Super Skrull has the time stone (and is why planet Sakaar is back, apparently, explaining something from IH2). Adam Warlock wakes up, so after ICDWN:AWLOCK 1. Thanos is in charge of the Chitauri, so after THANOS2 18. Adam Magus loses the soul stone to Hank/Ultron. Loki is no longer sorcerer supreme so after USQG2 27-30 & DS:DAMN.

ICDWN:CM 1 has Captain Marvel using the reality stone to explore other universes.

ICDWN:DD 1 came out the same month as DD 602-603 (and is most likely after at least DD 605). Turk has the mind stone and Bullseye is working for him (so likely after OML2 45).

Technically, all of ICDWN 1-5 are FBs except for the first pages, the only “now” portion (except for the last 3 pages of #5). The character who has the dwarf make what he makes doesn’t happen until after the bulk of ICDWN 5. So really, it’s ICDWN 1-4-FBs, ICDWN 5 (2-28)-FB, ICDWN 1-5, ICDWN 5 (29-31).

ICDWN 1 seems to be shortly after ICDWNP 1 (the Raptors heard where the power stone was there and are fighting for it here). It also says that GOTG 148 was “a few days ago” but that’s plainly ridiculous. Groot is finally fixed. Black Widow appears and says it’s been at least three weeks since TOS 104 (if not longer). Wolverine gives the space stone to Black Widow.

ICDWN 2-3 continues directly from #1. Silver Surfer appears (which means we’re after USQG2 30 & MG&DDINO 30). Continues into…

ICDWN 4 has Galactus going back to being the devourer of worlds (that didn’t last long). Alternate Captain Marvels appear, so we’re after ICDWN:CM 1. Adam Warlock gets the soul stone.

ICDWN:DHAWK 1-4 has Talonar dealing with what he learned in ICDWN 3, so shortly after th- O GREAT KIRBY DEATH’S HEAD IS HERE YOU GUYZ

ahem. #4 ends as a lead-in to IWARS:SLEEP but there can easily be a break between the last two pages.

ICDWN:CHMPS 1-2 has the Champions defeating Warbringer, so after ICDWN ICDWN 3. Thanos appears, so before IWARSP 1.

ICDWN:BW 1 leads in to ICDWN 5 (Black Widow travels to NYC to visit Doctor Strange).

Doctor Strange appears in ICDWN 5; no beard, red cloak, in his sanctum. So we’re after DS 390 (IWARSP has a comment that makes me think this is after the initial “in space” story in DS5, whenever that ends). He already has the time stone (um, where did that happen? DS5 maybe?). ICDWN 5 (2-28)-FB continues from #4, then ICDWN 5 (29-31) says that IWARS 1 is “tomorrow.” There can easily be a break between pages 28-29.

IWARSP 1 happens on the same night as ICDWN5’s end and before IWARS 1 (which according to ICDWN 5 is tomorrow). THANOSLEG repeats some of IWARSP 1 and then happens immediately afterward.

Re: SECRET EMPIRE to INFINITY WARS

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:04 am
by Col_Fury
DS5 1 (1-6)-FB happens “seven years ago.”

DS5 1 (7-10) spans five days. Doctor Strange stops being able to perform or detect magic.

DS5 1 (11-20) is “one month later.” Strange goes to Tony Stark for help and then leaves to search for magic in space. He’s captured by aliens and imprisoned. This part is obviously after IM 600. Currently, IM 600 is before DS:DAMN, so that’s nice.

DS5 2 says Doctor Strange has been imprisoned for “73 days.” Yikes. Maybe those are alien days which are shorter than Earth days? Strange starts to get his mojo back.

DS5 3 is cover-labeled an IWARS tie-in. yee! The first several pages has Strange hopping through space with his new friend for who-knows-how-long until he finds the time stone with the Super Skrull. Obviously, this issue happens after ICDWNP 1 and before ICDWN 5. There’s a segment on Earth featuring Strange’s ghost dog (who does appear in NM:DS).

DS5 4 says that Strange has been with his new friend for “months,” so it’s been “months” since the end of DS5 2. DS5 5 has Strange wrapping up his re-empowerment tour.

DS5 6 has Strange returning to Earth to FIGHT HIMSELF??!? Strange is back on Earth but the plot’s not over yet, and we’re still before ICDWN 5. #7’s not out yet.

After DS:DAMN & DS 390 (w/WH 1-2), it looks like Doctor Strange appears in A7 1-8 (as an Avenger), DP7 1-3 (with the Avengers), ASM5 1, USQG2 36 and various IWARS books & lead-ins. I don’t see any mention of Doctor Strange being with the Avengers so far in DS5 (but of course that doesn’t prove anything).

Re: SECRET EMPIRE to INFINITY WARS

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 10:31 am
by ShadZ
Col_Fury wrote: Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:12 pm
Legion is in the hallucination, which means Magik is aware of Legion’s existence. X:L2 ended with Legion making everyone forget about his existence (we all knew that wasn’t going to stick, right?), so I guess this is after LEGION 1-5?

[...]

Huh. LEGION 1-5 entirely ignores the “everyone doesn’t know about Legion” thing. I guess he undid it at some point? No guest stars; this thing happens to the side all by itself.
I've seen speculation in several places that LEGION 1-5 may be set years ago, before X:L2...

Re: SECRET EMPIRE to INFINITY WARS

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:07 pm
by Somebody
Legion's front'n'center of the main cover of the upcoming Uncanny X-Men #3 - https://www.cbr.com/legion-critical-unc ... n-3-cover/

Re: SECRET EMPIRE to INFINITY WARS

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:58 pm
by Michael
Cyclops flashes back to Legion defeating Magneto in Uncanny X-Men Vol. 3 #28. The Invaders mention Legion's battle with Aarkus in All-New Invaders 3. It looks like whatever Legion did to erase the world's memory of him in X-Men Legacy 24 was temporary.

Re: SECRET EMPIRE to INFINITY WARS

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:32 pm
by Col_Fury
The current Avengers volume starts “a few weeks” after IM 600. Definitely after A 690 and CA 700. Thor has *A* hammer again so after at least T5 1 (which means after T 706 & DS:DAMN).

Despite being after DS:DAMN, Doctor Strange is wearing his blue cloak. Maybe he alternated between blue and red for a while? He’s still bearded, so I’m thinking this is before DS 390.

It looks like She-Hulk has different degrees of Hulking out. ugh. Just get her back to normal already.

A7 6 has cameos by Man-Thing and Iron Fist, and Jean Grey is mentioned (so after PHXR:ROJG).

FCBD2018:A/CA (1-10:1)
A7 1-6
FCBD2018:A/CA (10:2)

A7 7 takes place a million years ago.

A7 8 starts a new story. A7 8-FB happens immediately after A7 6 and is “days ago.” Eh, “days” could either be 3 or 37. Doctor Strange is in his red cloak (and his beard is gone), so that’s nice. She-Hulk is back to normal (yay!) but can also get really Hulk-ish (meh).

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FCBD2018:A/CA /2 happens immediately before CA8 1. CA8 1-FB is “months ago,” and after SECEMP. Norman Osborn is pictured in FCBD2018:A/CA /2, but I’m not sure if it’s an actual appearance. I’ll err on the side of caution and say this is before ASM 800.

There can easily be a break between CA8 1-2.

CA8 2 starts a plot that’s continued into #3; Black Panther appears. Probably before BP7 1 (Black Panther goes into space there, right?). Published after the WKNDFVR one-shots.

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T5 1-2 has Thor back to doing Thor things. Dwarves have been working on new hammers for “weeks,” so in theory this is “weeks” since T 706. T5 3-FB has Hela agree to a wedding, and then T5 3 starts the wedding. That “hours long” gap is when THANOSLEG (8-9)-FB happens, and then Thanos shows up at the end of T5 3. Thanos is aware of the resurfacing Infinity Stones in T5 4. All of this is before A7 1.

T5 5 takes place in the future; #6 isn’t out yet.

Re: SECRET EMPIRE to INFINITY WARS

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:58 am
by Col_Fury
HFW 1 has the X-Men (Colossus is present) discover that Wolverine’s body is missing and that he may be alive (same month as X:G 25-26 and VIZED). Probably before the big X-wedding. Iron Man appears, so after IM 600. Daredevil appears (same as DD 601). Madrox is noted as dead, so before MULTM 1-5. Lady Deathstrike appears (same as WX3 16). nu-Jean appears and Magneto is noted as still in Madripoor, so before she goes to space (so before X:B 21). Wolverine appears doing something unrelated to the Infinity Stones (I guess it’s possible these scenes are flashbacks), so after ICDWN 1-FB?

HFW:AA 1-4 has Iron Man, Spider-Man (same as ASM 800-801 & ASM5 1-4), Luke and Jessica coming up short. All-New Wolverine appears (published after ANW 32).

HFW:WL 1-4 has Daredevil and his pals finding a recording of Wolverine shortly before his scenes in HFW 1.

HFW:CK 1-4 has Wolverine doing more of the same as was seen in HFW 1, and are flashback scenes to “a week ago” and then getting closer to now, so I guess those aren’t flashbacks in HFW 1. Anyway, Lady Deathstrike, Sabretooth and Daken searching for Wolverine and come up empty. Daken is captured and Deathstrike loses a hand. Sabretooth says they’ll get her a new hand, but this should be Daken’s last current appearance (he was in X:B 28-34. Uh oh).

HFW:MM 1-4 has Psylocke, Kitty, Jubilee, Storm, Rogue and Domino searching for Wolverine. Jubilee’s not a vampire. Magneto is in Madripoor and has been captured by some villains. Psylocke is back in her original British body (surprise!), so this should be her last appearance in an Asian body (after ASTONX4 1-12 & X:G 32). Uh oh.

nu-Jean returns from space immediately after VIZED; in that same story Magneto stops working with the nu-X-Men and leaves Madripoor (and in the X:B story Daken is working for Magneto). Magneto leaves Madripoor in X:B 34, changes back to his classic outfit and sets himself up in a new Asteroid M and reforms his Alcolytes. In X:B 36 the nu-X-Men go off to fight Magneto and his Alcolytes.

nu-Jean tells the other X-characters in HFW 1 that Magneto isn’t a bad guy anymore; after X:B 35 (which has to be before ASTONX4 for Archangel; this has to be after for Psylocke) that’s not the case.

MAYBE…

nu-Jean is *hopeful* that Magneto hasn’t fully gone back to his bad guy ways following X:B 35, defends Magneto’s character in HFW 1 (she doesn’t meet him in HFW:MM), and then finds out he’s back to his bad guy ways in X:B 36. We’d have to ignore Magneto’s costume, but I’m not seeing any other way around this Psylocke/Daken thing.

HFW:DE 1 has the various hero team leaders gathering at the X-mansion to compare notes. Colossus appears (I can see him returning to the X-Men for this situation, so before X:G 36, I guess?). Nightcrawler appears and is bearded. Wolverine appears (with glow-y claws), confirming his scenes in HFW 1 were current and not flashbacks. So, we’re after ICDWN 1-FB.

ROW 1 has Wolverine waking up after his death. This could be really shortly after that (so before SECWARS) or sometime after that. He has glow-y claws and starts working with a mysterious group. #2’s not out yet.

M/:LEG has Wolverine with an Infinity Stone. How did he get it? We don’t know yet. He then makes a bunch of cameos in various books (and only encounters Hydro-Man, right?).

In ICDWNP 1 Wolverine still has the space stone. In ICDWN 1-FB he gives it to Black Widow.

In HFW 1, Wolverine is back to working with the mysterious group, but HFW:DE 1 makes it look like it’s not willingly.

Re: SECRET EMPIRE to INFINITY WARS

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:19 pm
by Col_Fury
ASM5 1-FB-FB is years ago (like black-suit mid-‘80s years ago)

ASM5 1-FB happens “a few weeks ago” and the Kingpin presents Spider-Man with a key to the city (so after DD 598-605); of course he’s still secretly working against vigilantes. Peter is accused of plagiarism and loses his editor’s job at the Bugle.

FCBD2018:ASM has Peter looking for (and finding) a new (more affordable) apartment, so after ASM5 1-FB.

ASM5 1 (1-30) has Peter already in the new apartment (waking up early to go to an appointment), and a bunch of heroes fighting an “alien invasion.” She-Hulk and Doctor Strange (red cloak) are with the Avengers, so after A7 1-6. Thing and Torch are here (likely after M/TIO2 10). Old man Logan is here, but we can’t tell if he has bone claws (both sets are covered in alien guts). Black Widow is here… after ICDWN, maybe? Black Cat seems to be a good guy again. Real Jean appears, as does Rogue and Gambit. Mysterio is the villain, and then Peter and Mary Jane get back together.

ASM5 2-FB-FB is more of Peter and Mary Jane getting back together.

ASM5 1 (31-40) is Mysterio’s initial court appearance, so later that same day. It’s Quentin Beck, so after his BRSCR appearances (where he’s retired).

ASM5 2-FB is Spider-Man on his way across town and running into Man-Mountain Marko and Ringer.

ASM5 1 (41-42) has Peter finally showing up for his appointment and finds out that to get his doctorates back he has to attend a class taught by the Lizard.

ASM5 2 picks up from #1’s cliffhanger ending and has Peter learning how the Lizard is teaching at ESU. Also, Spider-Man meets Peter Parker??!?!!

ASM5 3-FB continues from #2’s cliffhanger ending.

ASM5 3 could be the next day or even a week later. Shouldn’t be TOO long after, though. We’re “one week” before the start of a new school semester (so “mid-August”) and ASM5 1-3 were at the end of the previous (probably summer) semester.

ASM5 4 Spider-Man becoming a money-grubbing celebrity while Peter is still thinking about the ESU thing. Peter learns his and Spider-Man’s situation has a time limit before they both die. Also, Peter’s birthday “isn’t for months.”

ASM5 5 fixes Spider-Man’s situation and says that ASM5 2 was “earlier this week.” Oh, also, Kraven’s back to being a bad guy (surprise!), published the month after USQG2 35 (wow, that lasted even shorter than Galactus the lifebringer did).

Also, the Kraven bits of ASM5 1-5 (Kraven’s only in #5 but is BTS in the others) all happen within an hour, while the main story lasts more than a week. I’m going to say these pages are flashbacks.

ASM5 6 starts a new plot unconnected to ASM5 1-5, so we have a clean break. Kraven’s -BTS (and was -BTS in #2, as it turns out).

Re: SECRET EMPIRE to INFINITY WARS

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:20 pm
by Col_Fury
BP@2 1 came out the same month as BP 170. Happens in a night. Malice is still missing, so before the Wakanda Forever one-shots. Probably between BP 172 and BP7 1. The other two stories are in the past and future.

WKNDFVR:ASM 1, WKNDFVY:X 1 & WKNDFVR:A 1 came out at the same time as ASM 801 & ASM5 1-4, X:G 29-34 and A7 3-6. Nakia appears so after BP@2 1. Hydro-Man appears (published after his M/TIO2 3 appearance and before his ASM5 4 appearance). Nightcrawler has no beard. Colossus is on the cover but not in the story. Storm does not have a Thor hammer. She-Hulk is with the Avengers, so after at least A7 6.

PPSSM 308-309 has Peter still working at the Daily Bugle, so before ASM5 1-FB. Also, ASM 800 is referenced, so after that. Ben and Johnny appear with their multiverse-travelling device, talking like they’ve already used it. So, after M/TIO2 10. They didn’t get it back yet, so maybe even after M/TIO2 11 (or so). Reed’s not around to ask how it works, so before FF6 1.

PPSSM 310 is it’s own little thing and it’s fantastic. Absolutely fantastic.

PPSSM 311 is a Spider-Geddon tie-in (but it’s not out yet).

DD@5 1 takes place entirely in the past.

CA@2 1 takes place entirely in the past.

ASM@5 1 takes place entirely in the past.

SS@2 1 takes place entirely in the past.

Re: SECRET EMPIRE to INFINITY WARS

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:09 am
by Col_Fury
DD 606 refers to HFW in the past tense, so we’re obviously past that. Cypher’s had time to heal, so a few weeks later at least. Hammerhead’s on his own (no longer working for Black Cat), so we’re at the point where she’s no longer a crimelord (DEF5 10). DD 606-608 lasts three or four days.

Re: SECRET EMPIRE to INFINITY WARS

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:09 am
by Col_Fury
OML2 46-47 says that CHMPS2 20-21 was "last month." The old man has Shaman confirm that he's dying. Puck tells Logan he found out where Maestro is, which is who Logan's looking for next issue (which ends on a cliffhanger, of course). OML2 48 says OML2 30 was "six months ago."

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BRSCRS 18-24 happens in less than a week. #18 starts a few days before Misty Beck does her big trick (which is on a Saturday), then everything (so far) happens that day and into the next (a Sunday). #25 comes out this week (in two days), but it's really looking like it's going to be a wrap-up that leads in to Spider-Geddon (probably a lead-in and not a cliffhanger, if my guess is right).

DS:DAMN was "a few weeks ago." Mephisto appears in Vegas outside of his cage (we all knew that wasn't going to last, right?). Maybe Strange's spell is weakening? If so, this would be at least after the start of DS5 1 where his use/perception of magic goes away. Also, after THANOSLEG-FB.