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by vanhornluke
Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:29 pm
Forum: Alternate Universe/Timeline
Topic: Earth-7642/Earth-Crossover Chronology
Replies: 29
Views: 2110

Re: Earth-7642/Earth-Crossover Chronology

Rather, I'm arguing that Punisher/Archie is 616 because Marvel says it's 616. The basis of your argument to convince us to break policy (that crossover stories must show crossover universes) involves breaking another policy first (that Marvel doesn't tell us that stories are canon). Again, I haven'...
by vanhornluke
Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:24 pm
Forum: Alternate Universe/Timeline
Topic: Earth-7642/Earth-Crossover Chronology
Replies: 29
Views: 2110

Re: Earth-7642/Earth-Crossover Chronology

We have plenty of other precedent for Marvel officially declaring that stories they can't legally reprint are 616. For example, they've said that DC vs. Marvel and JLA/Avengers are 616. Which was made clear AT THE TIME (i.e., in mutual arrangement with DC) in both cases. Hell, Busiek even reference...
by vanhornluke
Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:00 pm
Forum: Alternate Universe/Timeline
Topic: Earth-7642/Earth-Crossover Chronology
Replies: 29
Views: 2110

Re: Earth-7642/Earth-Crossover Chronology

Marvel have no rights, and have never had rights, to Archie. So they can't, from our POV, unilaterally declare it to be in the Marvel Universe - we would also need a declaration from ARCHIE that it was so. This is absurd. Marvel has every right to say "Hey, remember that Punisher/Archie crossover? ...
by vanhornluke
Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:24 pm
Forum: Alternate Universe/Timeline
Topic: Earth-7642/Earth-Crossover Chronology
Replies: 29
Views: 2110

Re: Earth-7642/Earth-Crossover Chronology

it presents an exception to the general rule, just like the Spidey/Red Sonja crossover with Dynamite, or the Spidey/Savage Dragon crossover with Image. I don't see Savage Dragon listed in the Project either. Coincidence? :hmmm: You're equating a story in Spider-Man Team-Up with a Punisher/Archie cr...
by vanhornluke
Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:18 pm
Forum: Alternate Universe/Timeline
Topic: Earth-7642/Earth-Crossover Chronology
Replies: 29
Views: 2110

Re: Earth-7642/Earth-Crossover Chronology

I wasn't being facetious. I understand, and I agree with that as a general policy. However, that shouldn't ignore when Marvel does in fact state that a story is 616, and that is what has happened with the Punisher/Archie crossover. The handbooks specifically reference the events of that story, integ...
by vanhornluke
Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:45 pm
Forum: Alternate Universe/Timeline
Topic: Earth-7642/Earth-Crossover Chronology
Replies: 29
Views: 2110

Re: Earth-7642/Earth-Crossover Chronology

Where? I didn't see at that link anything that says something to the effect "MCP will ignore Marvel's official classification of a story as 616 when the following criteria are met..."
by vanhornluke
Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:36 am
Forum: Alternate Universe/Timeline
Topic: Earth-7642/Earth-Crossover Chronology
Replies: 29
Views: 2110

Re: Earth-7642/Earth-Crossover Chronology

I entirely agree that it's more natural to treat the Archie crossover as taking place on Earth-7642. However, the only official statement we have on this story comes from the handbooks, which place it on 616. I have no idea why the handbook writers decided to do that, since it's a very odd choice. B...
by vanhornluke
Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:07 pm
Forum: Alternate Universe/Timeline
Topic: Earth-7642/Earth-Crossover Chronology
Replies: 29
Views: 2110

Re: Earth-7642/Earth-Crossover Chronology

That would be to ignore the clear intent of the handbook authors. I suppose that's possible, but I don't see any good reason to do so, especially since this isn't the only case of an intercompany crossover being declared to take place on 616 without any hint of interdimensional travel (I'm thinking ...
by vanhornluke
Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:29 pm
Forum: Alternate Universe/Timeline
Topic: Earth-7642/Earth-Crossover Chronology
Replies: 29
Views: 2110

Re: Earth-7642/Earth-Crossover Chronology

The ending has Frank leaving Riverdale to go to Gotham City. This doesn't present a problem for the story being 616, though, since we already knew from Captain America Comics #10 that there's a 616 Gotham City. And I just discovered today further confirmation that there's a 616 Gotham City in Sport...
by vanhornluke
Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:28 pm
Forum: Marvel Universe
Topic: Non-Marvel characters in the Prime Marvel Universe
Replies: 27
Views: 2395

Re: Question about several comic books

Interesting. I just went back and read that issue of IH. It's a strange editor's note, since there is no character from Robinson Crusoe that appears in the story, but rather a guy who falsely believes he's Crusoe. Still, the editor's note seems to suggest that the editor considered that issue of Mar...
by vanhornluke
Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:02 pm
Forum: Alternate Universe/Timeline
Topic: Earth-7642/Earth-Crossover Chronology
Replies: 29
Views: 2110

Re: Earth-7642/Earth-Crossover Chronology

As I mentioned above, the Punisher/Archie crossover has been established by the handbooks to be 616. It takes place in Riverdale, so apparently there's a 616 Riverdale with 616 Archie and gang, but this is the only time we've seen them (unless there are some easter egg appearances, like the 616 Clar...
by vanhornluke
Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:56 pm
Forum: Alternate Universe/Timeline
Topic: Earth-7642/Earth-Crossover Chronology
Replies: 29
Views: 2110

Re: Earth-7642/Earth-Crossover Chronology

Extras: 1) In the Badrock/Wolverine crossover, the villain is an interdimensional traveler not from Earth. It's not entirely clear if he's from some other dimension within Earth-7642 or from another reality. Here is his chronology: Tyrax BRW 1 2) X-Men/WildC.A.T.S: The Dark Age is not set on Earth-7...
by vanhornluke
Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:51 pm
Forum: Alternate Universe/Timeline
Topic: Earth-7642/Earth-Crossover Chronology
Replies: 29
Views: 2110

Re: Earth-7642/Earth-Crossover Chronology

With all of that said, here are the chronologies: Key ADOGJ – Almanaque do O Globo Juvenil BLSM – Backlash/Spider-Man BMDD – Batman/Daredevil BMSM – Batman/Spider-Man BPLF – Batman/Punisher: Lake of Fire BRUTUS – Brutus Magazine BRW – Badrock/Wolverine DBW – Deathblow/Wolverine CYBX – Cyberforce/X-M...
by vanhornluke
Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:49 pm
Forum: Alternate Universe/Timeline
Topic: Earth-7642/Earth-Crossover Chronology
Replies: 29
Views: 2110

Earth-7642/Earth-Crossover Chronology

Here's my attempt to figure out chronologies for Earth-7642 (informally known as Earth-Crossover). This Earth presents some challenges: 1) Because of the legalities, it’s unlikely that we’ll ever get an official handbook entry or index breakdown of these stories, or even official clarification of ex...
by vanhornluke
Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:27 am
Forum: Marvel Universe
Topic: Non-Marvel characters in the Prime Marvel Universe
Replies: 27
Views: 2395

Re: Question about several comic books

That's easily explained as there being fictional stories written about the real characters of Robin Hood (Fandral) and Ivanhoe.