SIEGE to FEAR ITSELF

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Re: SIEGE to FEAR ITSELF

Post by Col_Fury » Fri Sep 09, 2016 5:54 pm

Makes sense to me!
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Re: SIEGE to FEAR ITSELF

Post by Siabod » Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:39 am

Hi

I've noticed a couple of omissions

1) FRANKEN-CASTLE (FC) #21 and the whole of Punisher: In the Blood (P:ITB #1-5) are missing. Punisher's index has hi listed as:
FC 20
FC 21
FC 21/2
P:ITB 1
P:ITB 2
P:ITB 3
P:ITB 4
P:ITB 5
IHS 615/2
SHDWL 1
So obviously need to be slotted in after FC #20 and before Shadowland started. There doesn't seem to be any clues as to when would be appropriate, though FC #21 takes place over "weeks"

2) There are some additional titles that should be added to Second Coming line
"X: SECCOM 1-2 / XF 204-206 / UX 523-525 / NM3 12-14 / X:L 235-237 / XFOR3 26-28"
to
X: SECCOM 1-2 / XF 204-206 / UX 523-525 / NM3 12-14 / X:L 235-237 / XFOR3 26-28 / X:BS 1 / X:HB 1-3

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Re: SIEGE to FEAR ITSELF

Post by Siabod » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:13 am

Hi again, some more omissions

1) Looking at the indexes for Thunderbolt Ross, Sue Storm, Spider-Man Reed Richards, Spider-Girl, Luke Cage, and T'Challa
BP:MWF 514
BP:MWF 515
BP:MWF 516
BP:MWF 517
BP:MWF 518
SM&FF2 4
TB 151
TB 152
TB 153
YALLIES 1
YALLIES 2
YALLIES 3
YALLIES 4
YALLIES 5
YALLIES 6
is missing and should slot in between Ant-Man & Wasp 3 and DARKW 90

2) TB is missing and probably go as follows
Wolverine v4 5.1
TB 154
Thunderstrike v2 1

3) H2 29 - 36, as well as SG2 1-3 are missing and should flow as (at my best gues)
HULK 28
H2 29
H2 30

ASM 649
ASM 650
ASM 641
Taskmaster v2 1-4
Avengers Academy 7
Ant-Man & Wasp 3 (21 - 22)
Iron Man V5 26-33
X-Factor 215-224
ASM 654.1
ASM 652
ASM 653
ASM 654
Venom 1
ASM 655
ASM 656
X-23 v3 4
X-23 v3 5
X-23 v3 6
X-23 v3 7
D:DW 4 (start)
SG2 1
SG2 2
SG2 3
H2 30.1
H2 31
H2 32
H2 33
H2 34
H2 35
H2 36

Fantastic Four 581

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Re: SIEGE to FEAR ITSELF

Post by Siabod » Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:17 am

X-Factor 200-202 seem to been forgotton along the way, was on the list to be placed but then disappeared from discussion. Reed Richard's Index is

SENTRY:FS
XF 200-BTS
XF 201
XF 202
IIM 25

So it seems to come at start of "Siege to Fear Itself" so should read

Avengers Prime 1-5
New Avengers v2 1 (1 - 7)
Sentry: Fallen Son
X-Factor 200-202
Iron Man v5 25
Avenger v4 1 (1-5)
FCBD: Iron Man/Thor
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Re: SIEGE to FEAR ITSELF

Post by Russ Chappell » Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:03 pm

Col_Fury wrote:Avengers Academy 10-12
FF 1-2 (start)
Hakweye: Blind Spot 1-4
What means this? Why are we breaking this issue up?

The only reasonable break in F.F. 2 occurs between pages 11 & 12. In pages 12-20, Doom's intellect is restored.

The next time F.F. is mentioned is in the Fear Itself to AVXanalysis, where we place F.F. 3.

In his Fear Itself chronology, Paul says that INCREDIBLE HULK v4 #5 – FB (1-3) must occur after Doom regains his intellect, which suggests that F.F. 2 (12 - 20) occurs before Fear Itself. Is there a problem with placing 12-20 the day after pages 1-11, as the story implies? This will cram a whole lot of stories between F.F. 2 & 3, which is going to be rather awkward, as the story clearly isn't intended to flow that way, but is there any other solution?

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Re: SIEGE to FEAR ITSELF

Post by Col_Fury » Sun Jan 01, 2017 5:05 pm

Huh.

Looking back, the only three spots I found where a gap could be placed was between issues #2-3, during #3, and then during #5. I then immediately ruled out during #5 (because of Alex's broken arm). I'm not seeing anywhere where I thought there was a usable gap in #2. I suppose that's a typo, and I meant "FF 1-3 (start)"

However, I also pointed out that it's only implied that there's a short amount of time between issues #2-3, and "two days" is actually stated during #3, and I seemed to be leaning toward a gap between issues instead of during #3.

It's cleaner to have a gap between issues instead of during an issue, so let's do that (between #2-3). If we need an explanation, we could always say it took a while to arrange things on the FF's end before they sent out word to all the villains (which is how #3 starts).
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Re: SIEGE to FEAR ITSELF

Post by Russ Chappell » Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:50 pm

That works. Thanks.

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Re: SIEGE to FEAR ITSELF

Post by JaJa13 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:29 am

Hello!

First off, amazing work!!! I'm busy fleshing out the chronology even further (will be posting an update soon), but I'm stumped by Secret Warriors 20-28. Two main issues are that it seems SECWARR 20 is 6 months after Siege, and Slingshot has a shaved head which is a quite drastic change.

If anyone knows the placement of these issues that would be amazing, or even when Slingshot changed her appearance.

Thanks everyone!

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Re: SIEGE to FEAR ITSELF

Post by Russ Chappell » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:44 pm

Welcome to the Project, JaJa13.

We haven't announced it yet, but we added SECWARR 20-22 earlier this month. Check out Nick Fury's chronology.

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