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Re: Official Index to the Marvel Universe #1 Errata / Spider-Man

Post by Paul Bourcier » Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:27 pm

Hmm. Two different back stories. Perhaps one is phony. Could one of them have come from...a Skrull? :twisted:

Hey, with Bendis any continuity screw-up can be explained with a Skrull or...magic! :roll:
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Re: Official Index to the Marvel Universe #1 Errata / Spider-Man

Post by JephYork » Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:03 pm

This of course would mean the Galactus fight to the Fantastic Four in Alias # 22 is not the same as the one in FF # 50 but a prior untold (forgotten? erased from everybody's memory?) fight. Way to go Brian!
The "Galactus/FF fight" in Alias #22 is CURRENTLY not the same one as FF #50. That's Marvel's official take on the matter, as revealed in the new Index and as explained earlier in this very thread. Jessica awoke before Galactus arrived. Galactus is an art error. Ignore him.

Ergo, this new FB changes nothing.

(My personal preference right now is to just pretend "Galactus" was the Impossible Man. He's purple, he's changed into Galactus before, and the FF would chase him through New York like that even if they didn't quite recognize the dude he's turned into...)

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Re: Official Index to the Marvel Universe #1 Errata / Spider-Man

Post by Antonio Gaviño » Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:06 pm

The "Galactus/FF fight" in Alias #22 is CURRENTLY not the same one as FF #50. That's Marvel's official take on the matter, as revealed in the new Index and as explained earlier in this very thread. Jessica awoke before Galactus arrived. Galactus is an art error. Ignore him.

Ergo, this new FB changes nothing.
It does change something: If proven right, the FB in ASM # 601/2 eliminates the possibility of Alias # 23 happenning between ASM # 27 & 28 as the Index states.
(My personal preference right now is to just pretend "Galactus" was the Impossible Man. He's purple, he's changed into Galactus before, and the FF would chase him through New York like that even if they didn't quite recognize the dude he's turned into...)
I know you are trying to find solutions but what of the Silver Surfer and Galactus' machine that also appear in Alias # 22?

On the other hand If the whole scene is deemed an art error that solves the problem of Flash and Peter appearing in Alias # 23 still in Midtown High at a time when they were already supposed to be in college, and a new place needs to be found prior to ASM # 4 for the scene to happen.

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Post by JephYork » Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:16 pm

It does change something: If proven right, the FB in ASM # 601/2 eliminates the possibility of Alias # 23 happenning between ASM # 27 & 28 as the Index states.
Ah, gotcha. Well, two possibilities -- I haven't read ASM #601 yet.

1) Is this specifically stated to be AFTER Jessica's coma? Because I believe she also went to Midtown High (as Jessica Campbell) BEFORE the car crash that killed her family...

2) If so, then -- heck -- move it back to just before ASM #4 I guess.

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Post by Antonio Gaviño » Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:21 pm

1) Is this specifically stated to be AFTER Jessica's coma? Because I believe she also went to Midtown High (as Jessica Campbell) BEFORE the car crash that killed her family...
By Jessica's memory accounts, the Sandman fight in ASM # 4 happens AFTER waking up from her comma.
2) If so, then -- heck -- move it back to just before ASM #4 I guess.
That seems to be the best option. The Galactus scene in Alias # 22 is an art error. Case closed.
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Post by JephYork » Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:07 pm

Coma. Not comma. This is a comma --> ,

I'll let the Index folk know we have some ASM changes to note, but I think they already know... :-/

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Post by Antonio Gaviño » Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:09 pm

Jeph wrote:
Coma. Not comma. This is a comma --> ,
Both meanings are written with just one M in Spanish, maybe because of that I thought they both were spelled with two M's in English. My bad.
With the revelation in ASM # 601/2 that Jessica Jones recovers from her coma before ASM # 4, I went and made the necessary changes. Also I added ASMF # 3, '09, which goes between AF #s 16 & 17, as suggested by Paul Boucier after michaelyuri's analysis.

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Re: Official Index to the Marvel Universe #1 Errata / Spider-Man

Post by Russ Chappell » Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:23 pm

Antonio Gaviño wrote:Jeph wrote:
Coma. Not comma. This is a comma --> ,
Both meanings are written with just one M in Spanish, maybe because of that I thought they both were spelled with two M's in English. My bad.
Ka-BOOM.
With the revelation in ASM # 601/2 that Jessica Jones recovers from her coma before ASM # 4, I went and made the necessary changes.
It's hardly fair to imply that this is an error on the part of the Index. ASM #601 hadn't been published, at the time.


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Post by Antonio Gaviño » Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:21 am

Russ wrote:
It's hardly fair to imply that this is an error on the part of the Index. ASM #601 hadn't been published, at the time.
I wasn't actually trying to imply it was an error on the part of the Index, and it's only my fault for not pointing that out, I think it was more like an update on things. With new flashbacks appearing all the time there are always going to be new things to add to the mix. I think I have been fair so far pointing out it wasn't an error if a new book released after the publishing of the Index had new material that needed to be included. When I started I called this the Index Errata; at this point a better title could probably be Index Errata & Update, just to clarify.

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Post by JLH » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:05 am

Concerning the Aunt May Imposter, exactly where was it established that she took over well before May's stroke? It always seemed far more likely to me that Osborn and friends inflicted the coma, then at a point when May was in the hospital, switched her out. Having her replaced earlier than that just seems to be a bad attempt to over-compartmentalize the clone saga. Having the actress be the one to talk to Ben Reilly on the phone in Web 114, for instance, sticks out as something that doesn't work, for instance.

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Re: Official Index to the Marvel Universe #1 Errata / Spider-Man

Post by Kevin W. » Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:58 pm

In regards to ASM 601/2, there's a problem with placing Alias #23, '03 fb before ASM #4.

The Scorpion appears in that issue of Alias, and he doesn't come onto the scene until ASM #20...how do you reconcile this? Is Alias #23 spread out over months?

Can someone actually explain to me what happens in ASM 601/2 anyway? I'm just going off of word of mouth here...
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Post by Chris McCarver » Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:08 pm

Kevin W. wrote:In regards to ASM 601/2, there's a problem with placing Alias #23, '03 fb before ASM #4.

The Scorpion appears in that issue of Alias, and he doesn't come onto the scene until ASM #20...how do you reconcile this? Is Alias #23 spread out over months?

Can someone actually explain to me what happens in ASM 601/2 anyway? I'm just going off of word of mouth here...
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From what I recall, it's basically a catch-up conversation at Cap's apartment between Jessica Jones and Spidey post-his unmasking to the New Avengers, during which Jess relates to Pete that witnessing a fight between him and Sandman was what inspired her to become a superhero in the first place, and Spidey tells her she should resume her costumed crimefighting career. The story's something of a prelude to NA@ 3, where she suits up as Jewel again for the first time since the Purple Man mind-(BLEEP) and she and the rest of the New Avengers females rescue Clint Barton from Avengers Tower.
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Post by Kevin W. » Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:36 pm

Okay, but does she have her powers in the flashback in ASM #601/2? In other words, is this before she discovers her powers as shown in Alias #23 fb?
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Post by Paul Bourcier » Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:53 pm

Jessica received her powers as a result of the coma she had prior to ASM 4. ASM 601/2 reveals that the girl in the lower right of the last panel of page 12 in ASM 4 is in fact Jessica. In the present, Jessica states that she had her powers by then and that Spidey's battle with Sandman in ASM 4 inspired her to use her powers for good.

However, although she had her powers since before ASM 4, Jessica didn't DISCOVER that she had powers until ALAS #23, which must occur shortly after ASM 20 because of Scorpion. My theory is that when she defeated Scorpion and people called her a superhero, she thought back to that Spidey/Sandman battle she had witnessed, and she was inspired by that memory.
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Post by Chris McCarver » Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:57 pm

Never mind: Paul posted it while I was typing it. :D
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