Phantom Eagle (and others) in New Excalibur#12

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Phantom Eagle (and others) in New Excalibur#12

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There's a single panel appearance of Phantom Eagle on the first page of New Excalibur#12 that's not listed in his entry, shown as part of a montage of future and past visions Merlyn is watching. The script confirms it is Phantom Eagle fighting the Red Baron. No idea where in his chronology it would fit, beyond knowing Richthofen was around from 26th April 1916 until 21st April 1918.

The other visions might be effectively recaps of events seen in other stories, or they might be new. Per the script, the visions are:

--The ebony meteor first crash landing on Earth, during the age of the dinosaurs

-- The Phantom Eagle in a dogfight with the Red Barron

-- Atlantis sinking into the sea

-- the Mandarin discovering his rings

-- a shot of Rama Tut on his throne

-- a shot of the Ancient One in mystic battle with a Asian demon
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Re: Phantom Eagle (and others) in New Excalibur#12

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Here’s what the MCP currently has for Phantom Eagle:

PHANTOM EAGLE/KARL KAUFMAN
M/S-H 16-FB
M/S-H 16 (March 1917, not yet in America)
TCORPS 3 (September 1916, in Europe. oops)
IH2 135 (in Europe)
INV 7-FB (member of Freedom’s Five)
GR2 12-FB (dies)
GR2 12
……

At a guess I’d put it here:

PHANTOM EAGLE/KARL KAUFMAN
M/S-H 16-FB
M/S-H 16
TCORPS 3
IH2 135
INV 7-FB
*NXCAL 12
GR2 12-FB
GR2 12
……

Also,

ANCIENT ONE
ST 148/2-FB (origin, young, bald)
DSSS 23/2-FB (recently became sorcerer supreme, don’t see face)
DSSS 54 (still young-ish, bearded)
ST2 11-FB (takes first disciple, bald, refers to ST 148/2-FB)
ASM 503-FB (looking older, bearded)
X 33-FB (bald, refers to ST 148/2-FB)
M/W:SW (wild west)
M/APES:SB /2 (Charles Darwin appears)
……

That looks like some reshuffling is needed, so:

ANCIENT ONE
ST 148/2-FB
DSSS 23/2-FB
**DSSS 54 (move from here)
ST2 11-FB
**ASM 503-FB (move from here)
X 33-FB
*DSSS 54 (move to here)
*ASM 503-FB (move to here)
*NXCAL 12
M/W:SW
M/APES:SB /2
……

Also:

MANDARIN/"GENE KAHN"/"ZHANG TONG"/"TEM BORJIGIN"
……
IM:EM 1 (2)
IM 274 (7:2)-FB
**TOS 62 (5:5 - 6:6)-FB (delete)
*TOS 62 (5:5 - 6:4)-FB (examines rings)
*NXCAL 12 (puts on rings)
*TOS 62 (6:5 - 6:6)-FB (uses rings)
IM3 54-FB
TTA 66-FB
……

RAMA-TUT/NATHANIEL RICHARDS | EARTH-6311
……
WCA2 21
*NXCAL 2 (could go anywhere, really)
FF 19 (1 - 8)-BTS
……

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Works for me.
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Re: Phantom Eagle (and others) in New Excalibur#12

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Where should Phantom Eagle's appearance in Unlimited Access #2 go in his chronology?
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Re: Phantom Eagle (and others) in New Excalibur#12

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Anytime between M/S-H 16 and GR2 12-FB would be fine; it's just a shot of him in his plane.

Also, looks like Days of Future Past Magneto is missing, as is the Time Variance Authority's Mr. Mobius.

Oops. Also missing are Fin Fang Foom, Devil Dinosaur, Hercules and the Invaders (Captain America, Sub-Mariner, Human Torch & Toro).
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As it turns out, we have two different listing for Mobius M. Mobius and we’re missing an appearance.

How's all this look?

CAPTAIN AMERICA/STEVE ROGERS
……
TCORPS 2
*UACC 2
CAC 18/3
……

DEVIL DINOSAUR
……
GZILL 22
*UACC 2
M/M:DDINO
……

FIN FANG FOOM
IM 274-FB
IM 272-FB
{ST 89 (1 - 8:2)}
CONSPIRACY 1-FB
ST 89 (8:3 - 13)
*UACC 2
HV.FFF
……

HERCULES/HERACLES/ALCEAUS
……
A 265-FB
*UACC 2
{JIM@ 1}
……

HUMAN TORCH/JIM HAMMOND
……
TCORPS 2
*UACC 2
M/MC 36
……

**MOBIUS (delete entry)
FF 352
FF 353
FF 354
FF@ 27

*MR. MOBIUS (change name to MR. MOBIUS/MOBIUS M. MOBIUS)
*FF 352
*FF 353
*FF 354
*WI?2 39
*FF@ 27
*UACC 2
FOUR 15
FOUR 18
SH2 3
SH2 4
SH2 5

MR. ALTERNITY
*FF@ 27
FOUR 18

MR. TESSERACT
FF@ 27

PHANTOM EAGLE/KARL KAUFMAN
M/S-H 16-FB
M/S-H 16
TCORPS 3
IH2 135
*UACC 2
INV 7-FB
*NXCAL 12
GR2 12-FB
GR2 12
……

SUB-MARINER/NAMOR MACKENZIE
……
TCORPS 2
*UACC 2
CA:SL 2-FB
……

TORO/TOM RAYMOND
……
TCORPS 2
*UACC 2
M/MC 36
……

Alternate Universes page:

MAGNETO | EARTH-811
……
W:DOFP 3
*UACC 2
XCAL 52-FB-FB
{X 141}
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Re: Phantom Eagle (and others) in New Excalibur#12

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"The script confirms it is Phantom Eagle fighting the Red Baron. No idea where in his chronology it would fit, beyond knowing Richthofen was around from 26th April 1916 until 21st April 1918."

According to the main story in GR2 12, the Phantom Eagle was killed sometime prior to the end of World War I, while trying to smuggle his powers out of the German Empire. The Eagle then re-appeared as a ghost and spend the intervening decades repeatedly trying to kill the man who killed him, Hermann von Reitberger.

In GR2 12, the Eagle causes the aged von Reitberger to suffer a fatal plane crash. This supposedly allows the Eagle's ghost to rest in peace, though Ghost Rider/Johnny Blaze feels that the Eagle does not deserve peace and wishes him to have "bad dreams". The Eagle's ghost gets a cameo in GR2 13, where he is flying his biplane towards the Moon.

In "Skaar: King of the Savage Land" #4-5, a new character claims the Phantom Eagkle identity. He is an unnamed, living man who claims that the Eagle's spirit has entered his body. It was not clarified if this was true, or if he was insane.
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