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Re: SECRET EMPIRE to WAR of the REALMS

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an update!

SECEMP
U.S.A 10-FB (cleaning up Hydra cells)
CA 695 [July 4?]
EVVERSE 1-5
VVERSE:WS
VVERSE 1-5
BB 1-6, 7 (1 - 17) (Absorbing Man dies)
ROYALS 9-12 (after BB 6)
ANGOTG 12
MCM 9, CM6 125-126
SMENII 1-5 (SHIELD shutting down)
SM2 16, 17 (1-12)
DEF5 4 (1-4)-FB
SM2 17 (13-20)
DEF5 4 (6-10)-FB (Defenders already a thing)
SM2 18-19 (Goldballs goes missing)
DEF5 3 (10 - 20), 4-5, 6 (1 - 17)
ASM4 32 (before M/:LEG)
AMERICA 7-12
USQG2 22-25
ICE 6-7
WX3 12-14
DPV.OML 1-5
DD5 26, 27 (1-7) (no DD appearances until DD5 27-28) (before M/:LEG)
TOS 103 (1-5)-FB ["one month" before TOS 100]
MU3 6-8
X:B 10-12
DS4 25
H4 11
ANW 25-30 (SHIELD still around)
MSM4 19-22 [summer]
SM/DP 23-27
UGP 21-25
U.S.A 10-11, 12 (1-19)
IIM3 11
IM 593 (1-9)
M/:LEG (SHIELD’s "last day," Steve has shield & already on the road) (Kingpin running for mayor) ("Phoenix" Wolverine)
IM 593 (10-16)
CM6 127-129
CHMPS2 12
DS4 26
HAWK5 12-16
X:G 9-11
DAZZ3 1
DHAWK 51
MOKF 126
PP 63
SSBL&WP 36
LEGION 1-5
ASM 789 ("weeks" after SECEMP)
DP6 36, DDP 287-291
ASM 790
A6 11
SOV 1-5
FAL2 1-5 (1 - 19), 7-FB
DD5 27 (8-20), 28, DD 595 (1-5) (Kingpin becomes NYC mayor)
V 155-158 (Kingpin mayor)
PPSSM2 6, PPSSM 297-307 (Daredevil appears, Black Cat crimelord, Kingpin mayor)
LC 1-5, 166-169
ASM 791
X:G 12-15 & X:B 13-15 (Spider-Man & Champions appear)
ICE3 8-10
USQG2 26
DD 595 (6-20), 596
ASM:VINCA / ASM 792 / V 159 / ASM 793 / V 160 / ASM:VINCO (Black Cat crimelord)
V 161
UA3 30 (after ASM 790)
ASM 794, 795-FB (Bobbi & Peter break up)
X:G 16-20
TOS 103 (6-10)-FB ["weeks after" (1-5)-FB]
BB 7 (18 - 20), BB 8 (1 - 17) (before X:R@ 1-FB)
JG 4-10 (before DS 383-FB)
PHXR:ROJG 1-3 (before GENX2 8)
JG 11 (1-28)
PHXR:ROJG 4-5
X:R@ 1-FB (after BB 8 & X:G 20, before ASTONX4 1)
JG 11 (29-30)
X:R@ 1
TOS 100 (1-7) / SECWARR2 6 (1-7) / TOS 100 (8-20) / SECWARR2 (8-20) (Chernaya coup)
SECWARR2 7-11 (Deadpool, Moon Girl, Ms. Marvel) [the 4 days following TOS 100]
TOS 103 (11-12)-FB ["4 days" after (6-10)-FB]
TOS 101, TOS 102 (1-16)
P 218-219 ["3 days" after TOS 100]
TOS 103 (13-15)-FB, TOS 102 (17-20), TOS 103-104 ["2 days" after TOS 101]
NM:DS 1-6-FBs
DS 383-FB (Loki becomes Sorcerer Supreme)
USQG2 27-30 (Loki very recently Sorcerer Supreme)
C4 1-5
SECWARR2 12
SM/DP 28-36
DS 381 (Strange a vet)
A 672-674 / CHMPS2 13-15 (Spider-Miles has web-shooters)
CHMPS2 16-18 [“days” after A 674]
CA 696
MU3 9-12
DD 597
ASM 795 (Loki Sorcerer Supreme) (Peter found new apartment)
X:B 16-20
ASM@ 42
GENX2 8-9 & GENX 85-87
DDP 292-296
ASM 796 (Stark gone for “months”)
IM 593 (17-18) (Sam is Falcon (after A6 11), Spider-Miles has web-shooters)
ASM@ 42/2
ANW 31
CHMPS2 19-21 (Alpha Flight & Capt. Marvel appear) (Vision has been helping w/new ship)
MK 188-193
X:G@ 1
SM/DP 37-50 (Thunderball a villain) [“weeks” after SM/DP 36]
IF5 1-7, IF 73-77
BP6 12 (19-20), BP6 13-18, BP 166-172 (Thunderball reformed?)
ICE3 11
X:G 21-25 (after ICE3 11)
ANW 32
X:B@ 1 / V 162-163 / X:B 21-22 (nu-X-Men in space)
V 164-165
MG&DDINO 19-23 (Devil Dinosaur gone)
ASM5 1 (10 - 12)-FB
MT2 20-23 & T 700-701 (grey She-Hulk appears)
M/2IO 1
MG&DDINO 24-30 (Devil Dinosaur back)
M/2IO 2
THANOS2 13-18
THANOSLEG (6-7)-FB
THANOS@2 1
FAL2 5 (20), 6-8
X:B 23-28
VIZED 1-5 (before ASM 800 & T 702) (nu-X-Men return from space) (Vision appears)
X:B 29-35
M/2IO 3-6 (Thing & Torch unavailable until M/2IO 10) (before IM 600)
SM2 20-FB
SM2 20-21 (Miles loses web-shooters) (Cable appears) [“two weeks after” SM2 19]
M/2IO@ 1 (before IM 600)
M/2IO 7 (before IM 600)
C 150-154
M/2IO 8-10 (Thing & Torch return) (before PPSSM 308, FF6 1)
IM 593 (19-22), 594-596, 598-FB (Spider-Miles appears) (Tony gets better, but not publicly)
SM2 234-239 & 240-FB (Goldballs returns) (SHIELD is gone a recent-ish thing) (still no web-shooters) (Stark “gone”) (Red Hulk appears) (Cable appears again) (after INFIM, Lucia von Bardas appears) (Champions appear) [3 or 5 days long]
SM2 240 (1-10) (Stark appears) ["34 hours" after SM2 240-FB]
SM2 240 (11-12) (Sam still Nova) (Cho still Hulk)
DOMINO3 1-6 (Cho still Hulk, before X-wedding, before WX3 17)
SM2 240 (13-14)
P 220-226, 227 (1-3) ["3 weeks" since TOS 100]
SM2 240 (15-20) (Miles leaves hospital)
U.S.A 12 (20)
A 675-690 (Cho still Hulk, Spider-Miles, Strange blue cloak, Vision damaged, Red Hulk depowered)
IM 597-600 (Spider-Miles & Cable appear together) (after M/2IO@ 1 & M/2IO 7)
P 227 (4-20), 228 (Stark appears w/Rhodey)
TAH 23 & IH2 709-713 (1-17) (Cho & Unworthy Thor in space) [“1 month” before IH2 713 (18-20]
QS:NS 1-5 (Magneto in Madripoor)
BP@2 1
CA 697-700 (Stark -BTS, after IM 600)
C 155-159 (before ASTONX4 1-12)
HFW 1 (Colossus w/X-Men, no beard Nightcrawler, Iron Man appears, Madrox dead, Magneto in Madripoor, #hotclaws Wolverine)
NM:DS 1-2
MULTM 1-5 (Madrox returns, Archangel “fine”)
DS 382-385 (Loki stops as Sorcerer Supreme, Strange gets red cloak back)
BRSCRS 8-14 [lead-in to DS:DAMN]
DS:DAMN [“a couple of weeks” after DS 383-FB]
ASTONX4 1-12 (after BB 8 & X:B 35, before OML2 31, after MULTM 1-5)
PPSSM@2 1 (after V 165, before MSM4 34 for Shocker, Strange in blue cloak)
OML2 31-35 (bone claws)
USQG2 31
RG&GAM 1-5
CA8 5-FB
FCBD2018:A/CA /2
CA8 1
ASM 797-801 / Red Goblin: Red Death #1
OML2 41-FB
OML2 36-38 (before DD 598)
FCBD2018:ASM (1-9:2)
ASM5 1 (4:3)-FB
FCBD2018:ASM (9:3)
ASM5 1 (4:4)-FB
FCBD2018:ASM (9:3)
SENTRY3 3-FB (Strange doesn't appear, but has powers)
DD 598-605 (Black Cat crimelord, after DEF 6) (Purple Man still alive) [“about a month” since DD 595 (1-5)]
BB 8 (18 - 20), 9 (1 - 8) (Titania learns about Absorbing Man)
DEF5 6 (18 - 20), 7-9
BB 9 (9 - 20), 10 (1 - 8) (Captain America (Steve) & Unworthy Thor appear)
INHS:JD (1-13)
BB 10 (9-10)
INHS:JD (14-26) ~ BB 10 (11-14)
INHS:JD (27-30)
BB 10 (15-20), 11-12 (Absorbing Man returns)
OML2 39-40
USQG2 32-35 [mid-August]
PPSSM 308-309 (after M/2IO 10) (before ASM5 1)
USQG2 36-40
ASM5 1 (1-30), ASM5 2-FB-FB, ASM5 1 (31-40), ASM5 2-FB, ASM5 1 (41-42), ASM5 2, 3-FB, 3-4 (Avengers, Rogue & Gambit on Earth) [mid-August]
USQG2 41 (during ASM5 1-5)
ASM5 5
X:WED, X:G 26 (1-15), X:WED /2, X:G 26 (16-20), X:G 27-29, X:WED /3 (after RG&GAM & DS:DAMN)
X:G 30 (1-28) ("Phoenix" Wolverine appears)
MR&MRSX 1 (4-10)-FB (Rogue & Gambit in space)
X:G 30 (29-30)
MR&MRSX 1 (1-11)
X:G 31-32 (Psylocke Asian)
HFW:MM 1-4 (Psylocke no longer Asian)
X:G 33-35 (Rogue & Gambit already in space)
MR&MRSX 1 (12-20), 2-4, 5 (1-18) (before DDP 300)
GOTG 146-150
ICDWN:AWLOCK 1
SH 161-FB, 160-FB, SH 159-162 (She-Hulk goes back to green)
ICDWN 1-5-FBs
IH2 713 (18-21) & IH2 714-717 (1-17) (Cho & Unworthy Thor return, Alpha Flight & Capt. Marvel, Spider-Miles) (Cho powered down)
IMMH 5-FB
DDP 297-300 (Mighty Thor appears) (Vision appears, but easily malfunctions)
T 702-706 (no more Mighty Thor, Strange still a vet)
MT:GATES
ICDWNP 1 (Loki appears)
SH 163
LJAW 1-4
WH 1-2 (Strange bearded, red cloak)
HFW:AA 1-4 (before X:R 1-FB, before A7 1?)
IMMH 1
DP:ASSN 1-6 (after DDP 300)
MK 194
T5 1-2, 3-FB, THANOSLEG (8-9)-FB, T5 3-4
ICDWN:CM 1 (after CM6 129)
ICDWN:DD 1
V:FH 1-5
ICDWN 1-4 (Groot back to normal size)
FCBD2018:A/CA (1-10:1), A7 1-6, FCBD2018:A/CA (10:2), 8-FB (Strange bearded, blue cloak) (Avengers form, Loki goes missing)
V4 1-6, 7-FB (same time as A7 1-6)
A7 8 (1-12), A7 12-FB
M/CP3 2/3
DP7 1-3 (Avengers w/bearded Strange appear, Sam-as-Nova appears, normal size Groot appears)
DS 390 (Strange shaves beard, no longer a vet) [“less than 2 weeks” after DS:DAMN]
JJ 12 (9-20), 13-17 (Purple Man dies)
DEF5 10 (no beard Strange, blue cloak)
DS5 1 (1-10) (Strange loses powers)
LC 170
JJ 18 (Thing appears)
EX4 1-12
BRSCRS 18-25 (after THANOSLEG (8-9)-FB & DS5 1 (1-10))
HFW:WL 1-4 (#hotclaws Wolverine in -FB)
MK 195-196
TSIM 1
WKNDFVR:ASM 1, WKNDFVY:X 1, WKNDFVR:A 1 (no beard Nightcrawler, green She-Hulk w/Avengers, no Strange)
V@ 1 (after DEF5 10)
SENTRY3 1-5 (Avengers, no Strange)
IMMH 2
MG&DDINO 31
TSIM 2
ASTONX@2 1
SM@ 1
C&DP@ 1
TSIM 3
A7 8 (13-20), 9, 10 (1-40) (Winter Guard reinstated)
OML2 41-42
WX3 15-16
IH2 717 (18-20) [“3 months” after IH2 717 (1-17)]
WX3 17-21
OML2 43-45 [“a few weeks” since OML2 38]
DS5 1 (11-20) (Strange leaves for space)
HFW:CK 1-4 (after X:B 35, before WX3 22-27, #hotclaws Wolverine)
WH 3-7
WX3 22-27 (Sabretooth bad again, after HFW:CK)
DP7 4
V4 7-FB, V4 8, WOV:CRNGB 1, WOV:VU 1, V4 9-12
X:BLK-M
WSOL2 1-5 [summer]
MG&DDINO 32-36 (Thunderball replaced in Wrecking Crew)
MSM4 23-24 [mid/late-August]
PPSSM 310
TSIM 4
MSM4 25-28 [early/mid-September]
M/R 0
MSM4 29-31[mid-September]
M/R:A
M/R:SQG/MSM, M/R:SQG/MSM /2, M/R:MSM/SQG, M/R:MSM/SQG /2, M/R:O (1-28)
MSM4 32-35
DS5 2
DD 606-608 (after HFW:WL)
X:BLK-MOJO
X:B 36
X:G 36 [a month or so after X:G 35]
MR&MRSX 5 (19-20) (Rogue & Gambit back on Earth)
X:R 1-FB, X:R 2-3, X:R 4 (1-13), X:R 1 (no beard Nightcrawler, Gambit appears)
M/R:O (29-30)
DS5 3
ICDWN:DHAWK 1-4
ICDWN:CHMPS 1-2 (Sam stops being Nova)
ASM5 6-7
FF6 1-4 (FF return) ("Phoenix" Wolverine appears)
M/2IO 11-12
X:BLK-MSTQ
DS5 4-6, 7 (1-14) (Strange returns from space)
ASM5 8-10 (Strange appears w/Kanna) (Mr. Fantastic appears)
DS5 7 (15-20), 8 (Kanna leaves Strange)
X:R 4 (14-20), X:R 5-9, 10 (1-8)
P12 1-5, 6 (1-xxx) (UN in session) [mid/late September] (no Punisher until P12 6)
X:R 10 (9 - 20), 11 (UN in session [mid/late September]
ICDWN:BW 1 (Strange in New York)
ICDWN 5
A7 10 (41 - 50) (Loki returns, refers to ICDWNP 1) ("Phoenix" Wolverine leaves)
CGR 1-5
IWARSP 1
THANOSLEG
INFINITY WARS (Avengers) (Ant-Man returns to Earth)
IWARS ∞
ASGOTG 4 (12-20), 5
MSKRULLS 1-5 [early October]
THANOS3 1-6
ANT&WASP2 1-4, 5 (1-18) (Ant-Man back on Earth) [baseball playoffs] [early October]
RUN5 1-10 [middle of school semester]
T5 8, 10-FB
ANT&WASP2 5 (19-20) [“2 weeks later”] [world series] [mid/late October]
WCA3 1 (2-11)-FB
X:BLK-JUG
MK 197-200
CA8 2-5 [mid/late October]
A7 11-FB, 11
TSIM 5
DOINHS 1-5
WCA3 1 (12-15)-FB
DP7 5 [Halloween]
BPV.DP 1-5
RUN5 11
SPIDER-GEDDON
MIMOSM 1-FB-FB
SGWEN:G-S 4
DP7 6 (FF & Doctor Strange appear)
BP7 18-FB
BP7 12 (12:4-14:3)-FB
SHURI 1 (1-3) (T’Challa goes missing)
BP7 12 (15:3-17)-FB
HFW:DE 1 (bearded Nightcrawler, #hotclaws Wolverine)
DOMINO@ 1 (after WX3 22?) (bearded Nightcrawler, Cable appears)
WCA3 1 (16-17)-FB
X-23v4 1-5
SHURI 1 (4-20), 2-4, 5 (1-17) (normal size Groot, Rocket Raccoon, Storm appear) [2 weeks after 1 (1-3)]
BORDER 1-5
SHURI 6-7 (Miles, Ms. Marvel appear) [lasts a week, during a school semester]
WCA3 1 (18)-FB, WCA3 1 (19-20)-FB, WCA3 2-3-FBs, WCA3 4 (1-16), WCA3 1-3, WCA3 4 (17-18)
WCA3 5 (1:1-1:5)-FB (Namor throwing a fit)
SEASBTGS (Cable appears) (Dr. Doom appears) [late November]
ICE4 1-2
X:BLK-EFROST (bearded Nightcrawler, Rogue appears so before MR&MRSX 6)
ICE4 3-5
DOMINO3 7-10
SHURI 5 (18-20) [2 weeks after 5 (1-17)]
SHURI 8-10 (Storm appears)
MAJX 1-6
EXTRMNTN 1-5 (Cable dies) ("Searebro" still in Atlantis, destroyed)
X:EXTRNTD 1
BP7 1-16, 18 (Storm appears) (T’Challa returns)
NM:DS 3-6 (after EXTRMNTN, before ASTONX4 13-17)
ASTONX4 13-17 (after HFW:DE, EXTRMNTN, NM:DS, before ROW, MR&MRSX 6), UX5 (2)-FB
ROW 1-5 ("Searebro" gone, back to using Cerebro) (#hotclaws Wolverine back in action)
LOCM 1 (1 - 20) (no Captain Marvel appearances until this mini ends)
MSM4 36
TYPHOIDF:SM, TYPHOIDF:X, TYPHOIDF:IF
WCA3 4 (19-20)
MSM4 37
MERRYX HSPEC (Cable’s already dead, Arcade appears, Jubilee missing) (#hotclaws Wolverine in costume) [all thru December]
X-23v4 6 (after ASONX4 17) [near end of school semester]
SUSM2 1-6
MSM4 38
RUN5 12-14 [mid-December]
ASM5 11-13 (Arcade appears) [mid/late-December]
MERRYX HSPEC (Arcade defeated, Jubilee back) [all thru December]
DP7 7 (Santa’s missing) [December 25]
RUN5 15-19
MG&DDINO 37 (Santa’s back, Jubilee appears) [late December]
X-23v4 7-10
UX:WEND 1
OML2 46-47
MR&MRSX 6 (1-19) (Rogue & Gambit vanish)
BW9 1-5 [New Year’s Eve]
SRSTAR 1-5 (after NM:DS 3-6, before XFOR5 1)
DP7 8
OML2 48-50, DML 1-12 (old man leaves, #hotclaws Wolverine appears, before UX5 1)
FNSM2 1/2, 1-5 (before ASM5 14) [January]
LOCM 1 (21 - 30), 4-5 (Captain Marvel's been out of public eye for 9 months (!))
X-23v4 11-12
CGRDM/H 1-6
DOMINO:HS 1-5
UX5 19 (3 - 8)-FB, UX5 1-9, UX@5 1, UX5 10 (1 - 27), UX5 19 (9 - 10)-FB (X-Men "die") (Captain Marvel appears by herself in space)
AOXM:O 1-FB
XFOR5 1-6 (after UX@5 1, UX5 10)
W:IW 1-5 (shortly after X-Men die, after FF5 4, IWARS ∞)
UX5 19 (11 - 13)-FB, 11-FB
CHMPS2 22-23, 26-FB (Vision repaired) (Miles recovering) (Sam no longer Nova)
CHMPS2 24 [early-to-mid January]
CHMPS2 25-27 (after ANT&WASP2 1-5, DP7 4)
CHMPS@ 1
MIMOSM 1 (2-4)-FB (new school semester)
RUN5 20-27, 28 (1-5) (new school semester)
P12 6 (xxx-20), 7-12 (at least 3 months since P12 1-6)
XFOR5 7-10
DP7 9 (Daredevil appears) [Valentine's]
UX5 10 (28 - 30), UX5 19 (14 - 18)-FB, UX5 11-12, 19 (19)-FB, 13-14, 15 (1-16) (a while since UX5 10 (27))
MR&MRSX 6 (20), 7-9, 10 (1-16)
CM9 1 (1-29), 2, 3 (1-15), 1 (30)
MR&MRSX 10 (17-20) (after UX5 11)
CM9 3 (16-20), 4, 5 (1-20)
MR&MRSX 11-12
CM9 5 (21-22)
UX5 15 (17-21)
M/K20TH 1-6 (lasts a month?)
WOV:FP 1
WH 8-12 (after IWARS, before T5 9)
DS5 10/2, 10-FB, 9-11
CM:B&M 1
A7 12 / T5 9
MIMOSM 1 (5-6)-FB, 1-3 (before A7 14)
A7 14-17, 20-FB
USQG2 42
M/CP3 3/3
WCA3 5 (1:6-20)-FB, WCA3 6-7, WCA3 5, WCA3 8-FB, WCA3 8-10
ZIGGY PIG SILLY SEAL COMICS v2 #1 (Doctor Doom appears)
M/CP3 5/3
MIMOSM 4
DP7 10-12
M/TU4 1-3
FNSM2 6
M/CP3 6/3
M/R 1-5
SGWEN:G-S 5-10
P12 13-16
IMMH 3-8 (after WH 12)
CA8 6 (Ross dies)
SS:BD 1, N:BD 1, DS:BD 1, IMMH:BD 1, DEF:BD 1
IMMH 9-13 (Ross’ spirit recently in hell)
WOTR:WS 2/3-FB ["a few weeks" before WOTR]
IHRT 1
CA8 7 (1-16) (less than a week after CA8 6, Cap learns Ross is dead)
CHMPS3 1-2 (Wasp appears)
UWASP2 1-7 (Nova appears) (beforeA:NRH)
CHMPS3 3-4 (8-ish days between CHMPS3 2-3) (Nova leaves, no Wasp)
UWASP2 8-10 (2 weeks after UWASP2 1)
IHRT 2-3
MG&DDINO 38-41 [a few days before summer vacation]
IHRT 4-5
M/CP3 7/3
MG&DDINO 42
IHRT 6
FUFI:WFOX 1, FUFIF:LSNOW 1
TSIM 6-11 (after IMMH 8) ["two weeks" before TSIM 14]
FF5 5 (1 - 42), FFWED2, FF5 5 (43 - 60), 6-9 ["9 days" before WOTR]
T5 10 [Father’s Day?]
A:NRH 1-10 (Avengers Legacy #708-717)
Hulkverines! #1-3
IMMH 14-17, 18 (1 - 2) (Ross’ funeral)
ASM5 14-18, 18.HU, 19, 19.HU, 20, 20.HU, 21-23 (Captain Marvel appears w/Avengers) (between school semesters)
DS5 12-17
TSIM 12
ASM5 24, 25 (1-31) [June 26]
T5 11
ASGOTG 6-7
WAR of the REALMS

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Re: SECRET EMPIRE to WAR of the REALMS

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ANGOTG 5, 3, FCBD2017:ANGOTG, ANGOTG 1-2, 4, 6-8, 10, 12
May I point out that the Guardians acquire the Milano in FCBD2017:ANGOTG, but by ANGOTG @ 1 (which occurs during Secret Empire) they era already using the vehicle.
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Antonio Gaviño wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2020 3:04 am
ANGOTG 5, 3, FCBD2017:ANGOTG, ANGOTG 1-2, 4, 6-8, 10, 12
May I point out that the Guardians acquire the Milano in FCBD2017:ANGOTG, but by ANGOTG @ 1 (which occurs during Secret Empire) they era already using the vehicle.
Just for reference, and so everyone doesn't have to go hunting, this is where that sequence came from..
Col_Fury wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:42 pm
Siabod wrote: Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:24 pm I have some questions about
FCBD2017:ANGOTG, ANGOTG 1-2, 4-8, 10, 12, and 3

In the FCBD , quill mentioned is the second time he been arrested by Nova Forces. I suggest the first time is in#5, when being chased by Adsit.

In #5 Quill has retrieved the gyroscope for Rocket's giant mech. I assume the mech is Galactus as seen in #1

In #3, Rocket talks about the gyroscope that Quill retrieved

So...
5, 3, FCBD, 1-2, 4, 6-8, 10,12 ?

Why is#3 posted so far back? Either way I think 5 needs to come before 3
Scott Adsit is with the Nova Corps in ANGOTG 5, but he doesn't join the Nova Corps until DP6 30. So, ANGOTG 5 has to happen after DP6 30. Good point about the gyroscope! I think we'll end up with this:

ANGOTG 5, 3, FCBD2017:ANGOTG, ANGOTG 1-2, 4, 6-8, 10, 12

ANGOTG 3 is where Gamora decides she wants the Soul Stone. It looks like it doesn't have to happen that far back.
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The sequence looks good but the Annual should be in it at some point after the FCBD issue. Meaning, at least issues 5, 3 and FCBD happen before Secret Empire, if not more.
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Re: SECRET EMPIRE to WAR of the REALMS

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Actually, issue 3 also shows the Milano, placing it between the FCBD and number 1 issues.
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Re: SECRET EMPIRE to WAR of the REALMS

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In ANGOTG@ 1, the Guardians get the Milano.

In ANGOTG 5, Star-Lord gets a thing. No Milano.

In ANGOTG 3, Rocket says he has the thing that Star-Lord already got, and he's using it to make a Galactus mech. The Milano appears.

In FCBD2017:ANGOTG, the Guardians are using the Galactus mech that Rocket needed a thing for to make. The Milano appears.

Maybe we just don't see the Milano in ANGOTG 5?
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Re: SECRET EMPIRE to WAR of the REALMS

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You are getting things a little mixed up there. It actually goes like this,

In ANGOTG 5, Star-Lord gets a thing. Almost arrested by Nova Adsit. No Milano.
In FCBD2017:ANGOTG, (not ANGOTG@ 1) Starlord says it’s the second time the reformed Nova Corps have tried to arrest him, the Guardians get the Milano.
In ANGOTG 3, Rocket says he has the thing that Star-Lord already got, and he's using it to make a Galactus mech. The Milano appears.
In ANGOTG 1, (not FCBD2017:ANGOTG) the Guardians are using the Galactus mech that Rocket needed a thing for to make. The Milano appears.
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In ANGOTG@ 1, during Secret Empire, the Milano appears.

It all fits nicely. No controversy anywhere.
Shortly I’ll expand on this to point exactly where the annual fits. Right now I have to get up to make breakfast for my son. :munch:
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Re: SECRET EMPIRE to WAR of the REALMS

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More trouble with Def, DD and black bolt

At end of Def 9 Titania is caught and presumably arrested and jailed

But is it and about for Carl's funeral in Blackbolt 9-10
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Siabod wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:03 pm More trouble with Def, DD and black bolt

At end of Def 9 Titania is caught and presumably arrested and jailed
The answer in the "presumable arrested and jailed."

In BB 9 (1 - 8), Titania learns of Creel's death. In DEF5 8, Titania is still dealing with Creel's death. BB 9 (9 - 20) has Creel's funeral, which follows immediately with BB 10-12 & INHS:JD, without a break, in which Creel is resurrected. DEF5 8 can only occur between BB9 (1 - 8) & BB 9 (9 - 20). Therefore, Titania coundn't have been arrested and jailed in DEF5 8-9, Either she escaped, or was allowed to leave. Titania is next seen in WH 8-12.
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Re: SECRET EMPIRE to WAR of the REALMS

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Found this over at the CIVIL WAR II TO SECRET EMPIRE thread from a post by Col_Fury dated July 2018,
Col_Fury wrote:
Clive_Reston wrote:
All-New Guardians of the Galaxy is... oddly structured. Its chronology appears to go issues 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, FCBD 2017, 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, Annual 1 (the Secret Empire tie-in), 12.
Other than issues 3,5 & 7 Clive had it right that while ago.
ANGOTG 6 says that Gamora has been acting strange ever since they left Earth, so ANGOTG 3 should happen shortly after GOTG4 19.
After but not necessarily shortly.
ANGOTG 7-FB (where Drax turns pacifist) happens after ANGOTG 6, but ANGOTG 7 can’t happen between ANGOTG 6-8.
I guess you meant ANGOTG 7-FB happens before ANGOTG 6. You were right about ANGOTG 7 not happening between ANGOTG 6-8.
Scott Adsit (a Deadpool supporting character) appears in ANGOTG 5 already a member of the Nova Corps. He joins the Nova Corps in DP6 30, so ANGOTG 5 has to happen after DP6 30 (and therefore likely after SECEMP).
This is probably where some of the confusion originated, DP6 30 was initially thought to happen after SECEMP. It was eventually moved to before but the ANGOTG issues were left after SECEMP.
FCBD2017:ANGOTG is one adventure, then ANGOTG 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 is fairly continuous and sends the Guardians on a mission to search for the Infinity Gems, which is what they’re doing in ANGOTG 12 (which is clearly post-SECEMP).
All good there but issues 10 & 12 don't happen next to each other, ANGOTG@ 1 and of course SECEMP happen between them.
I’m leaning toward:

ANGOTG 10-FB
GOTG4 19
ANGOTG 3
GOTG:DO
GOTG:ME 1-5
ANGOTG 7-FB
ANGOTG 9
ANGOTG 11
ANW 22-24
DP6 30
ANGOTG@ 1
ANGOTG 5
ANGOTG 7
FCBD2017:ANGOTG
ANGOTG 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12
It's actually like this,

ANGOTG 10-FB Loki gives the Gardener the idea to start growing Groots.
GOTG4 19 Guardians leave Earth.
GOTG:DO Guardians in space, Groot still big.
GOTG:ME 1-5 Guardians in space, Groot still big.
ANGOTG 7-FB Drax turns pacifist.
ANGOTG 9 Groot gets tiny, Rocket already working on Galactus Mech.
ANW 22-24 Groot is tiny, Drax is a pacifist.
DP6 30 Scott Adsit joins the Nova Corps.
ANGOTG 11 Adsit with the Nova Corps.
ANGOTG 5 Quill gets gyroscope for Rocket's mech, he is almost arrested by Nova Adsit. No Milano.
FCBD2017:ANGOTG Drax questions Gamora's motivation for Grandmaster's job, tells her she lied to Quill and Rocket, she tells him to ask her again sometime (meaning she had already decided to get the Soul Stone by this point). Star-Lord says the reformed Nova Corps have tried to arrest him twice so far. The Guardians get the Milano.
ANGOTG 3 Gamora gets recurring dream about a part of her soul trapped in Soul World, Rocket uses gyroscope on Galactus mech, the Milano appears.
ANGOTG 1 Guardians use the Galactus mech, then abandon it, the Milano appears, Gamora works out as Drax meditates at the end.
ANGOTG 7 Gamora joins Drax meditation. Drax tells Gamora how he turned pacifist, she mentions her search for the Soul Stone as something she already told him by this point, the Milano appears.
ANGOTG 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 Fairly continuous, Gamora reveals to the Guardians she is looking for the Infinity Stones, Drax confronted for knowing about it and not saying anything. Rocket says Gamora hasn't been herself since fighting Thanos on Earth (sounds as their last time on the planet through the sequence of books), no mention of Secret Empire up to this point. Guardians decide to search for the Stones.
ANGOTG@ 1 During Secret Empire, In between jobs the Guardians try to find help against Hydra on Earth, the Milano appears.
ANGOTG 12 After Secret Empire, the search for Infinity Stones resumes.

So in the end, only ANGOTG 12 should be in this section; ANGOTG@ 1 during SECRET EMPIRE and everyhting else before that goes in the CIVIL WAR II TO SECRET EMPIRE portion.
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I've removed a mess of ANGOTG issues, as well as GOTG5 1-6 and DD 609-612 & MWF 1-5.

I think we're good?
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:deadhorse: Dog with a bone here, i know, but i'm still holding out for an earlier placement for CA 695, which should occur on July 4. Currently it's placed after Wilson Fisk becomes mayor, so after November 8?

The only things i can see holding us back are 1) that we're assuming 3 months for Secret Empire, beginning April 1 and ending July 4, which is nice, but it's supposition. Secret Empire can be done and finished in two months; and 2) that it says "some months later.." I maintain that the July 4 setting trumps the more vague "some months later.." It would be about a month or some weeks later.
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I think we're assuming Fisk becomes mayor in a special election, so not necessarily November. I moved CA 695 earlier anyway, though. Maybe it's "months" since Secret Empire started?
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Okay - cool. :)
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I've added IHRT 6 near the end of the list.
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