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A bit more catch-up from the past couple of weeks.

THE LAST ANNIHILATION: WAKANDA #1 appears to be on Day 16, like the other Last Annihilation specials.

X-MEN: THE TRIAL OF MAGNETO #2 is also probably Day 16, sometime after New Mutants #21 (several members of the space team are back on Krakoa). Iron Man (again without his helmet), Captain America, Vision visit Krakoa.

MARAUDERS #24 is still "days" after Arakko moved to Mars.

EXCALIBUR #23 has to be sometime after Last Annihilation, because of Doom.

X-FORCE #23 continues on from #21-22, some indefinite amount of time post-Gala.
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More catch-up!

HELLIONS 16 follows directly on from #15, meaning pp. 1-5 are still on the very, very busy Day 15. (At the end of that scene, the new X-Men team shows up, which I believe is the first time, story-chronologically, we've seen them together since they were elected at the Gala!) Pp. 6-7 are back on Krakoa, and Nanny refers to the events of the past few issues as "today."

On pp. 8-10, night is falling on Krakoa. (I suppose it could still be Day 15, but that would mean that night falls in NYC before Krakoa, which doesn't seem right, so let's call it Day 16.) Kwannon has "accepted the role of Captain" but has, perhaps, not assumed that role yet (to avoid a conflict with INFERNO 1).

Consequently, pp. 11-20 begin at dawn on, let's say, Day 17 at the White Palace (so before Emma's appearance in Marauders #23). Emma tells Alex she's "asked the Council to reconsider" resurrecting Madelyne--since Alex probably would not know there's already been pressure to that effect from the Five in New Mutants #21. Poor Alex--!

NEW MUTANTS 22 is still on Day 16, and follows on directly from issue #21. The "strategies and tactics" session appears to go on for at least six hours; by the end, it's night (and there's a rainstorm).

WOLVERINE 16 -FB is the night of the Gala, and connects to WOLVERINE 13 (11-15).

S.W.O.R.D. 8 and its -FB are some point well after the Gala.

EXCALIBUR 24 seems to follow a break after 23, and it's been "months" since X of Swords.

X-CORP 5, the final issue, is also sometime comfortably after the Gala--no specific markers evident yet.

INFERNO 1 is going to need a little while before its placement becomes clear (even beyond the slightly altered flashback to Moira's third life). Kwannon's joining the Captains (and Magik implies that this has been in the works for a while, cf. Hellions #16); there's also a throwaway line to the effect that "by now, everyone knows" about mutant resurrection, which implies that it's after the current X-Men storyline.
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Clive_Reston wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:15 pm INFERNO 1 is going to need a little while before its placement becomes clear (even beyond the slightly altered flashback to Moira's third life). Kwannon's joining the Captains (and Magik implies that this has been in the works for a while, cf. Hellions #16); there's also a throwaway line to the effect that "by now, everyone knows" about mutant resurrection, which implies that it's after the current X-Men storyline.
And I read somewhere (maybe Newsarama) that Jordan White said that Inferno takes place after The Trial of Magneto.
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Well, this week's INFERNO 2 makes matters more complicated... but also clearer.

Pg. 1 = X-Men 20 (1)

2-3 = INFERNO 1 (25-26) = X-MEN: THE TRIAL OF MAGNETO 2 (8:4-8:5) -FB (they show slightly different bits, but that's what's going on on Island M immediately before the Gala)

4-5:1 = INFERNO 1 (27): Sinister gives "Xavier" (who has a nosebleed? or eyebleed?) Destiny's DNA. Must be sometime very close to the Gala.

5:2 - 8: "Xavier" gives Hope the helmet, so this must be before NEW MUTANTS 21--which means this scene is probably on Day 15, the day after the Gala. (Question: when does the real Xavier learn Hope has the helmet? Is it after he's killed and resurrected in WAY OF X 4 and 5--so it might have happened after his most recent "backup" pre-resurrection?)

9: Takes us up to 3-4 weeks later. The -FB on 15-17 involves the Kara Kutuça mentioned in X-MEN 21.

And X-FORCE 24 must be before INFERNO 2 (38-40).

Meanwhile, X-MEN: THE TRIAL OF MAGNETO 3 follows on directly from 2; Wiccan is back from The Last Annihilation.

X-MEN 4 is "Halloween," which seems like a topical reference if ever I've seen one, but in any case it's after the death of Dr. Strange.

MARAUDERS 25 is immediately after 24, "days" after the Gala. S.W.O.R.D. 9 must be at some point after WAY OF X 5 ("that debacle with Phobos").

WOLVERINE 17 is not terribly specific so far in terms of its placement.
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November catch-up!

It seems clear that Kwannon unofficially joins the War Captains as soon as Gorgon is seen to be out of the game, but that they don't officially announce that to the Council until INFERNO 1--"if it's not already obvious."

NEW MUTANTS #23 is immediately after #22, i.e. on Day 16. (After INFERNO ends, I'm going to post a complete day-by-day listing of all this stuff again, this is just me keeping track).

X-MEN: THE TRIAL OF MAGNETO #4 is immediately after #3, also on Day 16. Kwannon, Illyana and Bishop are among the War Captains, but Cyclops is clearly still leading them. There's going to have to be a break of a few hours in NEW MUTANTS #21 between pages 17 and 18, during which X:TOM #2-4 (and presumably #5) can happen, so that Illyana can be with the New Mutants cast in the evening. Busy day.

HELLIONS #17 is right after #16 (on Day 17).

MARAUDERS #26 is sometime fairly shortly before X-MEN #5: per the text page, shortly after Harry has appeared at the U.N. at the end of the issue, Ben Urich is still chasing the mutant story but apparently hasn't broken it yet. (Also, Conan has been kicked out of the old NYC Hellfire Club building, which he moved into in SAVAGE AVENGERS 19.)

X-MEN #5 includes an -FB to the Hellfire Gala election.

EXCALIBUR #25, S.W.O.R.D. #10, X-FORCE #25 and WOLVERINE #18 are all still some indefinite amount of time after the Gala.
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This week's issues complicate matters a bit, particularly INFERNO 3 (which is fantastic, btw). The opening scenes indicate that the Krakoan drugs were created "four months ago" and that Krakoa was announced to the world "two months ago." And, since 3 or 4 weeks pass between pp. 9 and 10 of INFERNO 2, that means that everything between HoX/PoX and X of Swords has to fit into about two weeks. Seems rather brisk, if you ask me, but I may go and see if it's workable.

(Honestly, if the captions on pages 8 and 9 were "four months later" and "two months later," it would be a lot simpler... it may be necessary to consider them that way.)

This issue also casts the conclusion of X-MEN UNLIMITED INFINITY COMIC 12 in a somewhat different light!

HELLIONS 18 has to be after INFERNO 1 (the Council acknowledges Kwannon as a "Great Captain"), but that's fine; some time can pass between issues 17 and 18. EDITED TO ADD: As Paul O'Brien points out, the last two spots on the Quiet Council are still vacant, so this issue has to take place before the final scene of INFERNO 1. Which also works fine!
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Well, in Way Of X we have seen children born (and probably conceived) on Krakoa, as a respond to the third law "Make more mutants". At least nine months should have passed since the first reunion of the Quiet Council.
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Ah, very true. Also, per X-Men #5, at least three months pass between the invasion team going into the Vault and coming out again. So, yeah, those two captions have to be typos.
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Midnighter wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:33 am Beware that Marvel has released online mini-stories, and some Instagram stories, which are part of the Hellfire Gala.
At the moment it seems to me that they exist only online and spread through social media, but if they are printed in some future collection it will be necessary to insert them chronologically.

X-Men Vote comic strip: during the Gala, the candidates in the elections for the X-Men compare the predictions and the outcome of the vote.
As you predicted, the X-Men Vote strips have indeed turned up in the Hellfire Gala Red Carpet Edition hardcover!

(Meanwhile, this week's Excalibur #26 and X-Force #26 don't seem to have any further placement cues.)
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X-MEN UNLIMITED INFINITE COMIC #12 (which I'm guessing will appear in print at some point), the conclusion of the "X-Men Green" story that starts with #5, takes place at some point after the Hellfire Gala (Nature Girl has a flashback to walking on Mars "the morning after the Gala"), and takes place at a point when Magneto, Xavier, Emma and Kurt are all on the Council. But then a ship that appears to be the Marauder shows up in the final scene; let's assume it's the Mercury taking the form of the Marauder...

Speaking of boats, Sevyr Blackmore's former one is destroyed in WOLVERINE 19. S.W.O.R.D. 11 is immediately after #10 and happens very quickly.

X-MEN: THE TRIAL OF MAGNETO 5 concludes a miniseries in which at no point is there a trial of Magneto. It includes two FBs to the night of the Gala, as well as a handful of bizarre logical inconsistencies. As far as the non-flashback stuff, pages 1-7 seem to happen shortly after issues #2-4; pages 9-11 could be the insanely crowded Day 16 too, but it's not unreasonable to move them to the next day; pages 16-19 are the day after that; page 20 is an unclear amount of time later.

EDITED TO ADD: Nope! In the recent X-MEN 1, the Blackbird is being renamed to "honor John's sacrifice," i.e. John Proudstar's, and Scott mentions "those of us who never lived to see Krakoa." So there has to be a gap before page 9 where that issue can happen before Thunderbird can be resurrected. Well, it seems like Legion's been hard to get ahold of, anyway.

(I mean, there's also the problem that Petra and Sway have both definitely been resurrected in the Krakoan era, and they definitely died before Thunderbird, but that seems like an issue that can't be resolved by this kind of tinkering.)
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Clive_Reston wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:35 pm (I mean, there's also the problem that Petra and Sway have both definitely been resurrected in the Krakoan era, and they definitely died before Thunderbird, but that seems like an issue that can't be resolved by this kind of tinkering.)
This week's Jay and Miles X-Plain the X-Men, https://www.xplainthexmen.com/2022/01/3 ... pecial-10/ , features Jonathan Hickman, who notes that his biggest regret of his X-Men run was having accidentally written a bit of dialogue for Cyclops and Havok where they're discussing Petra and Sway in the present tense; the idea was supposed to be that Gabriel was just imagining their presence! OH WELL.
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OK. INFERNO 4 is out this week, which means it's time to reckon with the entirety of this beast...

DAY 0:

CABLE 7 (1-2): Krakoa at sunset a few hours after XoS.

DAY 1:

EXCALIBUR 16 (1-19): A full day on Krakoa, right after XoS.
X-MEN 16 (1-17): Cyclops, Cable, Prestige. Arakko transported through the External Gate. Then Cypher and Krakoa, then a Quiet Council meeting where Shaw is still unharmed.
CABLE 7 (3-14): Philadelphia daytime, Bucks County that night.
MARAUDERS 16 (1-18): Storm and Bishop meet at sunset. Confrontation at Hellfire Bay in the evening. Emma present, Shaw maimed.
WOLVERINE 8/1: One evening.

DAY 2:

EXCALIBUR 16 (20): The morning after the earlier part of the issue, in extradimensional England.
EXCALIBUR 17 (1-9): Pete Wisdom and Coven Akkaba in London, morning; then Krakoa.
MARAUDERS 16 (19-20): Council meeting in the morning. Sinister present.
X-MEN 16 (18-20): Scott, Jean, Magneto, Xavier in the Council chamber. Daytime.
NEW MUTANTS 14: One day, shortly after XoS. Doug and Bei haven't left for their honeymoon yet.
X-FORCE 15-16: One day. Sea monsters. Logan and Namor present.
CABLE 7 (15-20): Cable, Rachel, Scott, Jean in Krakoa before dinner.
CABLE 8: Cable and Domino, the same night.
EXCALIBUR 17 (10-20): That night at the lighthouse.

DAY 3:

X-MEN 17: Krakoa, then Chandilar. Scott and Jean occupied for the day, pretty much.
X-FACTOR 5 (1-3): The Five are ready to do resurrections again but haven't started yet.
X-FORCE 17 (1-6): Quentin Quire gets himself killed.
GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY 13-14: Ego turns black.
S.W.O.R.D. 1: One day. Cable and Magneto present.
WOLVERINE 8/2 (1-17): Logan, Scout, Omega Red, Daken, Sage, Beast. Krakoa, then Los Angeles.
WOLVERINE 8/2 (28-30), 9, 10 (1-13): Madripoor; Logan as Patch, in white suit.
X-MEN 18 and 19 (1-18): Most of this is flashbacks, but at the end Laura and Synch escape from the Vault.

DAY 4:

X-MEN 19 (19-20): Laura and Synch resurrected.
X-FORCE 17 (7-20): Quentin Quire resurrected.
HELLIONS 7 (1-3): Council meeting in the morning. Hellions resurrected.
EXCALIBUR 18 (1-5): Krakoa, "two days" after #17.
CABLE 9: Cable on Krakoa, daytime; then with Logan who is in a black jacket in Madripoor; then back on Krakoa. One day.
X-FACTOR 5 (4-20): Arbor Magna Hatchery, the day after the previous scene. Rachel present. Sofia resurrected. Then, that night, Dani and Emma; then Siryn dies.
WOLVERINE 10 (14-16): Logan and Maverick, outside Houston.
HELLIONS 7 (4-10): The White Palace at sunset, then Bar Sinister.
MARAUDERS 17 (4-17)--Krakoa, then Mykines, then Madripoor, then Krakoa, where Crucible happens that night.

DAY 5:

MARAUDERS 17 (18-20): Callisto resurrected; then Kate delivers an invitation to Verendi. (Siryn also probably resurrected this morning.)
WOLVERINE 10 (17-20): Logan and Maverick in Krakoa in the morning, plus a New York scene with Maverick.
HELLIONS 7 (11-20): Hellions in Arizona.
HELLIONS 8: The same day.
X-MEN 20 (6-17): Mystique's mission.
EXCALIBUR 18 (6-10): Krakoa, the day after the previous scene in the issue.

DAY 6:

X-MEN 20 (18-20): Mystique resurrected. Xavier and Magneto put a plan in motion and go see Moira.
HELLIONS 9-10: Krakoa, then the fake mission begins, not long after #8. Kwannon present & can't appear elsewhere for a "week."
King in Black begins. Xavier, Cyclops, Storm, Cable, Marvel Girl, Logan, Nightcrawler, Magneto all involved.

DAY 7:

SWORD 2-4: One day, during KiB. Sunfire, Magneto, possessed Cable present.
KING IN BLACK: MARAUDERS 1: Kate Pryde, Sage, Emma Frost, Magneto, Cyclops, Storm all involved. One day.
SAVAGE AVENGERS 18-19 (before KiB 4 but after KiB: Marauders 1): Callisto, Bishop, Iceman present; Storm, Cyclops still enthralled. Logan in final scene. Conan moves into the old Hellfire Club.

DAY 8:

King in Black ends in morning--probably Christmas morning, given the context of KiB: Iron Man/Doom (in which Doom must be a Doombot, thanks to Guardians of the Galaxy) and KiB: Immortal Hulk.
X-FORCE 18 (1-7): Night. Logan pops in to the Summer House briefly, but he's got some unfinished vampire business.
WOLVERINE 11 (1-4): Logan dealing with vampires in Minneapolis, late at night.

DAY 9:

MARAUDERS 18 (1-18): Madripoor.
CABLE 10: Cable and Emma on Krakoa; #9 was "the other day." Scott is getting fitted for the Gala, which is "days away."
X-FORCE 18 (8-20): Krakoa, the day after the previous scene. Sage kills Beast.
X-FORCE 19: Same day, apparently, stretching to night. Logan's not responding to hails (look, he's very busy right now).

DAY 10:

(Beast resurrected at some point this morning.)
CHILDREN OF THE ATOM 4 (1-4): Morning in NYC. (COTA 4 pp. 5-6 are a FB to a while ago)
CABLE 11-12: Scott, Jean, Young Cable, Emma, the Cuckoos, Deadpool. Cable's final mission stretches all day and into the night. Hope's dialogue at the beginning of #11 implies at least a few hours have passed since the previous issue.
WOLVERINE 11 (5-20): Logan, Sage, Beast in Krakoa, tracking Omega Red. Later, Logan and Louise in Paris, plus a scene at Oxford University.
MARAUDERS 18 (19-20): NYC, then Madripoor.
MARAUDERS 19: Later that day.
PLANET-SIZE X-MEN 1 (5) -FB: Magneto talks to Isca.
HELLIONS 11: "a week" after #10. One day; Kwannon returns to Krakoa.
EXCALIBUR 18 (11-20): A full day on Krakoa. Kwannon turns up at the very end, in an unsurprisingly bad mood.
EXCALIBUR 19: Night of the same day as #18. Kwannon present.

DAY 11:

WOLVERINE 12 (1-6) Paris, just before dawn after the previous issue.
CHILDREN OF THE ATOM 4 (7-12)
X-FACTOR 6 (1-13): Morning at the Boneyard, a week after Siryn's death and five days since her resurrection. Siryn's dead again. Prodigy sets up the body farm.
NEW MUTANTS 15 (1-10): Prodigy has set up his body farm when Scout visits the Boneyard.
PSX 1 (6)-FB Hellfire talks to Magneto.
X-FACTOR 6 (14-20): Another scene at the Boneyard (Siryn has gotten resurrected very quickly this time).
EXCALIBUR 20 (1-10): Council meeting on Krakoa; Gala has been announced and people are preparing.
WOLVERINE 12 (7-9) Dusk at Oxford.
CHILDREN OF THE ATOM 4 (13-16): Night of the same day as pp. 7-12.
CHILDREN OF THE ATOM 4 (17) ~ CHILDREN OF THE ATOM 5 (1): The fight.
CHILDREN OF THE ATOM 5 (2-3): Daycrawler goes to the Krakoan embassy in NY (as seen in #2; it's not the Treehouse)
CHILDREN OF THE ATOM 4 (18-19): The other kids wake up.
CHILDREN OF THE ATOM 4 (20): The Krakoan rescue team arrives.
CHILDREN OF THE ATOM 5 (4-15): Cyclops, Storm, Logan, Nightcrawler, Marvel Girl, Pixie present (so this can't be the next night--but the final scene of the issue can be two days later easily).
NEW MUTANTS 15 (11-20): Rahne has a rough moment at the Sextant. Doug and Bei's wedding reception at the Green Lagoon (they have honeymooned before this & just got back), where Cosmar asks Dani to be her partner in Crucible.
MARVEL'S VOICES: PRIDE (2021) (8th story): Green Lagoon, nighttime, probably the same party; Storm and Rogue both wearing their Gala outfits, Christian Frost and Moonstar present; Anole has been hanging out with the Shadow King.
MARVEL'S VOICES: PRIDE (2021) (10th story): Kyle and Northstar. That night? Heck, why not.
NEW MUTANTS 16 (1-7): Night of the same day as 15.

DAY 12:

WAY OF X 1 (1-8)
X-CORP 1 (1-4): "9:00 KST": Monet, Warren and Wind Dancer film the X-Corp spot. ("KST" here is Krakoa Standard Time, which seems to be different from Korea Standard Time...)
X-CORP 1 (5-6): "09:30 KST": Monet and Warren meet Xavier at the Council Chamber.
S.W.O.R.D. 5: Cortez resurrected (at some point after Sunfire); Council meeting on Krakoa in the morning; Doug is back. "We have the Gala to prepare for."
NEW MUTANTS 16 (8-20): daytime on Krakoa (and Otherworld).
WAY OF X 1 (9-13) Kurt and Magneto. Early in the day; Crucible is that night.
X-CORP 1 (7-9): "03:00 IST": Monet recruits Trinary. (3:00 IST = 18:30 BRT = presumably 10:00 KST)
PSX 1 (7)-FB Steve Rogers talks with Cyclops in Westchester.
WOLVERINE 12 (10-13) Krakoa, daytime.
X-CORP 1 (10-12): "18:30 BRT": Warren meets Kol.
X-CORP 1 (14-16)-FB: "19:00 BRT": Monet recruits Jamie in the Savage Land. (This scene is technically a flashback because it takes place before the previous scene!)
X-CORP 1 (13): "19:30 BRT": Warren and Kol conclude dinner.
X-CORP 1 (17-22): "10:30 KST": Monet and Jamie back in Krakoa; Monet contacts Angel.
X-CORP 1 (23-30): "21:00 BST" (has to be a typo for BRT): X-Corp HQ appears in Brazil. It's "Friday," conveniently.
NEW MUTANTS 17: Xuan asks Dani to be her partner in Crucible. "Laura's been... gone" (though she's apparently back from the Vault by now).
NEW MUTANTS 18 (1-3): Same day.
X-FACTOR 7: At the Boneyard, the day after #6. Rachel's over at the Braddock lighthouse, checking in on Betsy (see below). Later, they're asking around about Siryn; issue continues through that night.
X-FACTOR 8 (1-13): Lots of people get killed at the Boneyard.
EXCALIBUR 20 (11-18): Betsy going through clothes, apparently the day after the previous scene; then night.
WAY OF X 1 (14-21) That night, before and during Crucible.
NEW MUTANTS 18 (4-19) is also during Crucible. Laura has definitely returned, and people know it. Gabby talks to James, then goes to the Boneyard, then visits Amahl Farouk.
NEW MUTANTS 19 (15 - 17:1)-VO-FB and inset panels on 14-15: Farouk's interaction with Gabby.

DAY 13:

EXCALIBUR 20 (19-20): Malice resurrected at dawn. Kwannon present.
NEW MUTANTS 18 (20): Xuan resurrected, reintroduced to her teammates. (Tran presumably resurrected too, not that we see him until much later.) Storm present.
X-FACTOR 8 (14-20): Resurrections at the Hatchery, then the Boneyard.
WAY OF X 1 (22 - 27:2) Morning in Arbor Magna. Pixie and Lost are resurrected. Xavier and Magneto present. Kurt talks to Xavier, then goes back to his residence to sleep.
CHILDREN OF THE ATOM 5 (16-20): Storm invites Carmen to the Gala, which is "tomorrow."
CHILDREN OF THE ATOM 6 (1-2): Immediately after that.
PSX 1 (8)-FB Magneto presents his plan to the Council.
GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY 15 (1-17): It's "ten days" since Ego turned black. Moondragon is working on "this Korvac business" (probably some time before Iron Man #8, despite the footnote). Guardians arrive at S.W.O.R.D. Nova confronts Magneto.
MARAUDERS 20: On board the Mercury, the night before the Gala. Storm present.
WAY OF X 1 (27:3 - 28) Kurt has a vision and wakes up.

DAY 14: DAY OF THE HELLFIRE GALA

Note: if King in Black ends on Christmas Day, the Hellfire Gala is a New Year's Eve party, despite the text page!

WAY OF X 1 (29-30), WAY OF X 2 (1-3): Kurt goes to Blindfold's grave site, where he meets David, who gives him "ten minutes" to round up a crew.
WAY OF X 2 (4-7) "Middle of the day," per Dr. Nemesis, on Krakoa (but has to actually be morning). Dazzler is doing her first set of the Gala day. Kurt recruits Dr. Nemesis and Pixie.
WAY OF X 2 (8-14): Kurt, Nemesis, Pixie go to Saudi Arabia.
WAY OF X 2 (15-20): Arbor Magna. Legion revived. Magneto immediately tries to recruit him, but Legion declines and says "I don't trust you."
PSX 1 (9) -FB "Morning." Magneto on SWORD with his crew; he says that he doesn't trust David/Legion yet.
PSX 1 (10) -FB Magneto in Otherworld, talking to King Jamie.
PSX 1 (11) -FB Magneto on Arakko.
WOLVERINE 12 (14-20): Paris, then Sevalith, a "few days" after earlier scene.
X-FACTOR 9 (9-20) Dazzler does her second set of the day, then goes home to get ready for the Gala.
X-CORP 2 (1-2): Monet and Warren preparing for the Gala.
S.W.O.R.D. 8 (10:4 - 11:1) -FB: Storm battles Nameless.
X-MEN RED 1 (1 - 4) -FB: More of Storm's battle with Nameless.
INFERNO 2 (3:1 - 3:3) -FB
X-MEN: THE TRIAL OF MAGNETO 2 (8:4-8:5) -FB: "Magneto" removes the Cerebro helmet from its cradle. ~ INFERNO 1 (25-26) -FB
INFERNO 2 (3:4 - 3:5) -FB
MARAUDERS 21 (1-4:5): guests begin to arrive (the invitation indicated 7 pm as the starting time; note: times given seem to be time on Mykines, not on Krakoa)
X-FACTOR 10 (1-4): 7:15 PM, Krakoa.
HELLIONS 12 (1-3): 7:29 PM. Mr. Sinister, Havok and Psylocke go to the Gala.
X-CORP 2 (3-5): 7:30 PM. Several Multiple Men in the staging area; X-Corp arrives on green carpet.
X-FORCE 20 (1-4:2) ~ MARAUDERS 21 (4:6-5:1): 7:40 pm, Iron Man arrives, argues with Kid Omega. Beast arrives at Sage's control center.
CHILDREN OF THE ATOM 6 (3 - 6:6): Carmen arrives; Storm shows her around until Cyclops calls her away. (Though not for Mars, because it's not 9:00 yet.)
X-MEN 21 (1-5): 8:12 PM, during the reception: Charles and Erik talk with Namor.
WAY OF X 3 (1:1) Kurt gets a drink.
MARAUDERS 21 (5:2-9): telepathic concert (Beast with Sage at control center, Emma's first outfit).
WAY OF X 3 (1:2) Kurt takes Pixie's drink.
NEW MUTANTS 19 (1-3): At the reception. Logan is present and speaking with Thor. Kurt is present and drunk.
MARAUDERS 21 (10-18): Emma, with the second outfit, speaks with Captain America, Dr. Doom and Shi'ar ambassador, who tells her about the gift. Emma asks Christian to sort the gift. Logan at the party, speaking with Captain America.
X-FORCE 20 (4:3-9): Logan receives the gift of the Shi'ar and oversees the cargo on the Marauder. Christian is on board to deliver them to Krakoa. Beast leaves Sage's control center.
MARAUDERS 21 (19): Just before the dinner is served, Emma speaks with all the members of Hellfire Trading Company, except Christian.
X-FORCE 20 (10-12): 8:35 pm. Emma, in her second outfit, notices Beast's actions.
X-CORP 2 (6:1-3): 9:00 PM: Monet and Warren interview Neal Shaara.
X-FACTOR 10 (5:1): 9:04 PM: Carmen is looking confused.
CHILDREN OF THE ATOM 6 (6:7): Eye-Boy approaches Carmen.
CHILDREN OF THE ATOM 6 (7:1) ~ X-FACTOR 10 (5:2): Eye-Boy and Carmen talk.
X-FACTOR 10 (5:3 - 5:6): Daken et al. at the party.
CHILDREN OF THE ATOM 6 (7:2 - 7:5): Eye-Boy shows Carmen around.
EXCALIBUR 21 (1-3): 9:30 PM: Excalibur and Shatterstar arrive at the party.
X-FACTOR 10 (6): "1:30 PM PDT," presumably 9:30 on Mykines. Prodigy in Los Angeles.
X-CORP 2 (6:4 - 7): 9:30 PM: Monet and Warren interview Sunspot, Trinary talks to Multiple Man.
X-FORCE 20 (13-20): 9:31 pm, Logan intercepts Deadpool and fights him along with Domino, Emma goes to Sage's control center, a Terra Verde ambassador is "hacked."
X-FACTOR 10 (7-8): 9:32 PM: Kate & Rachel see Shatterstar's arrival.
X-CORP 2 (8-10): 9:59 PM, Warren talks to Selene, Kid Omega and Monet encounter Fenris.
WOLVERINE 13 (1): 10:04 PM. Sage, Beast, Logan.
X-MEN VOTE strips collected in the Hellfire Gala Red Carpet Edition are just before and after the election
NEW MUTANTS 19 (4-6): Dani and Rahne talk, immediately before the election. (Pg. 6 panels 4-6 = simultaneous with X-Men 21 (6 - 7:1)
X-FACTOR 11 (11:1-11:3) -FB (technically): 10:15 on Mykines, moments before the election
X-MEN 21 (6-11): 10:15 PM, the election
X-MEN v6 5 (4-5) -FB overlaps with the election
EXCALIBUR 21 (4-6): 10:20 PM, immediately after the new X-Men lineup announcement
X-FACTOR 11 (11:4-11:5): also right after the announcement
NEW MUTANTS 19 (7-16): Warlock, James, Doug, etc., at the party.
X-FACTOR 10 (9-10): Prodigy in L.A. again, "2:32 PM PDT," so presumably 10:32 on Mykines.
HELLIONS 12 (4): 10:33 PM, the Hellions decide to go to the Gala
X-CORP 2 (11-13): 10:40 PM, Monet and Warren interview Mastermind
HELLIONS 12 (5-13:5): 10:45 PM, Hellions crash the party
WAY OF X 3 (1:3) ~ HELLIONS 12 (13:6): Kurt is monologuing. Nanny is present.
EXCALIBUR 21 (7-9): 11:00 PM
WOLVERINE 13 (2-10): 11:01 PM
WAY OF X 3 (1:4-2:2): More drunk Kurt. (1:5 seems to be during WOLVERINE 13, pg. 7.)
WOLVERINE 13 (11-15): 11:21 PM: Christian attacked by Sevyr Blackmore. (Cf. WOLVERINE 16)
EXCALIBUR 21 (10-12): 11:30 PM
HELLIONS 12 (14-15:4)
X-FACTOR 10 (12:1) ~ HELLIONS 12 (15:5) : 11:30 PM
X-FACTOR 10 (12:2-12:6)
HELLIONS 12 (16-17)
X-CORP 2 (14-15): 11:30 PM, Trinary, Monet and Andrea von Strucker at X-Corp HQ.
X-MEN 21 (12-16): 11:35 PM ("Exodus"?): Emma in third outfit, with mysterious representative of hidden society; Mystique wearing Sinister-ish cape; Kevin Feige chats up Cyclops. Kid Omega rounds up Storm, Marvel Girl, Exodus, Jamie Braddock, Iceman.
X-CORP 2 (16-20): 11:40 PM - Andreas, Warren and Mastermind, not actually at the party any more.
X-FACTOR 10 (13-17): 3:40 PM PDT - Prodigy and Eye-Boy in L.A.
X-MEN 21 (17-20): 11:45 PM: time for the fireworks. (Emma plucks the petals from a flower.)
PSX 1 (1-5) The "fireworks" begin with Bobby's announcement (confirmed by the Delores Ramirez text piece at the end of the issue).
WAY OF X 3 (2:3): Kurt sees the fireworks.
HELLIONS 12 (18-20): Hellions are back at Krakoa, but they are able to telepathically see the fireworks (and the previously sliced-up Sinister isn't).
PSX 1 (12-28): The "fireworks" continue.

DAY 15 ("Monday"):

MARAUDERS 21 (20-21): A few minutes after midnight, Emma with the third outfit, the Gala is ending.
X-MEN v6 1 (1-3): non-FB bits are when Mars/Arakko is "breaking news"
WOLVERINE 13 (16-17): 1:07 AM.
S.W.O.R.D. 6 (1-5): 1:10 AM: Steve Rogers, Doom, Gyrich, James Hudson, et al.
WOLVERINE 13 (18-20): 1:20 AM
PSX 1 (29-30): The guests have departed, and the mutants head to Mars for the afterparty.
MARVEL'S VOICES: PRIDE (12th story): Karma, Galura, Magik, et al., at the afterparty on Mars.
S.W.O.R.D. 6 (6-16): On the Peak; Peter Quill, Noh-Varr, Nova, Doom present.
INFERNO 1 (27) = INFERNO 2 (4-5:1) - Sinister gives "Xavier" (who has a nosebleed? or eyebleed?) Destiny's DNA. (I've placed this here because it's a moment where Xavier is probably distracted.)
S.W.O.R.D. 6 (17-19) 3:17 AM, on Mykines (though X-MEN: THE TRIAL OF MAGNETO 1 claims Wanda's death was at "2:56 AM"; I don't think that can be.)
S.W.O.R.D. 6 (20) ~ WAY OF X 3 (2:4-2:5)
X-MEN: THE TRIAL OF MAGNETO 5 (8) -FB: Wanda explains her idea to Magneto.
X-MEN: THE TRIAL OF MAGNETO 5 (13-15) -FB: More conversation between Magneto and Wanda.
X-FACTOR 10 (18-21): Mykines, 4:04 AM.
NEW MUTANTS 19 (17-18): Very late at the afterparty on Mars.
EXCALIBUR 21 (13-20): "Nearly morning."
CHILDREN OF THE ATOM 6 (8): 6:10 AM, Carmen on Mykines.
CHILDREN OF THE ATOM 6 (9-12): Carmen back home with her parents.
NEW MUTANTS 19 (19-20): Morning: Laura gets the note at her house, then finds Daken; the kids make their discovery.
NEW MUTANTS 20 (1- 3): The kids and Gabby.
NEW MUTANTS 20 (4-6): Xi'an and Rahne at the Green Lagoon.
INFERNO 2 (5:2-7:3): "Xavier" gives Hope (Magneto's?) Cerebro helmet. (Must be before New Mutants 21.) Destiny resurrected.
MARAUDERS 22: The morning after the Gala.
WAY OF X 3 (3-18): Kurt wakes up with a hangover.
X-MEN UNLIMITED: X-MEN GREEN 2 -FB (Nature Girl on Arakko the morning after the Gala)
X-MEN: THE TRIAL OF MAGNETO 1: (1-12) The day after the Gala. Laura, Daken present; then a Quiet Council meeting.
NEW MUTANTS 20 (7-12): Illyana et al. at "seismic event" site.
HELLIONS 13 is unlikely to be more than a day or so after the Gala, and 14 continues directly from it, and 15 directly from that (though it's nighttime in New York by then). And then 16 (1-5), at the end of which the X-Men show up--the earliest time, chronology-wise, that we get to see the new teem in action! (Might be that evening.)
GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY 15 (18-20): After S.W.O.R.D. 6, and "two days" after previous scene. The Last Annihilation begins.
GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY 16 seems to be right after that. (Doom isn't present because he's having a "diplomatic dinner" in S.W.O.R.D. 7.)
S.W.O.R.D. 7 (1-16): Storm's comment to Doom about "our respective marriages" suggests that this is after Fantastic Four #34. (Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to work, as Paul O'Brien points out, thanks to contingencies involving FF #28, 31 and 35, as well as The Marvels. Whoops.)
GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY 17: "half an hour" after S.W.O.R.D. 7
WAY OF X 3 (19-20): Later, at the Green Lagoon.
NEW MUTANTS 20 (13-20): Evening on Krakoa, the day after the Gala.
NEW MUTANTS 21 (1-5): Right after that.
HELLIONS 16 (6-7): Back at Krakoa, after the previous scene (Nanny refers to it as "today")
X-MEN: THE TRIAL OF MAGNETO 1 (13-30): Evening on Krakoa. Magneto, Northstar, Cyclops, both Wolverines, Marvel Girl, Daken, Polaris, Prestige, Tommy, Kyle. Billy's unavailable because of the "space emergency."

DAY 16 ("Tuesday"):

NEW MUTANTS 21 (6-17): takes place across the course of this day
S.W.O.R.D. 7 (17:1 - 17:3) = EMPYRE AFTERMATH: AVENGERS (29-30)
S.W.O.R.D. 7 (17:4 - 20)
CABLE: RELOADED 1
THE LAST ANNIHILATION: WICCAN & HULKLING is basically simultaneous with the Cable special
THE LAST ANNIHILATION: WAKANDA is also probably this day. Manifold, T'Challa, Storm present.
GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY 18 is just after that, and its epilogue doesn't appear to be much later either. (Storm present again in the epilogue.)
CHILDREN OF THE ATOM 6 (13 - 16): The team fights Hordeculture.
X-MEN: THE TRIAL OF MAGNETO 2 (1-10): Krakoa, evidently the day after #1. Several members of the space team from New Mutants #21 are back in Krakoa. Iron Man (without his helmet), Captain America, Vision visit Krakoa.
X-MEN: THE TRIAL OF MAGNETO 4 (1) -FB: Hope has the Cerebro helmet when Wanda is resurrected!
X-MEN: THE TRIAL OF MAGNETO 2 (11-20)
X-MEN: THE TRIAL OF MAGNETO 3: Immediately afterward. Billy and Tommy arrive, following The Last Annihilation.
X-MEN: THE TRIAL OF MAGNETO 4 (2-20): is after that. Kwannon, Illyana and Bishop are among the War Captains; Cyclops is still in charge of them.
X-MEN: THE TRIAL OF MAGNETO 5 (1): Wanda points the finger at Toad.
X-MEN: THE TRIAL OF MAGNETO 5 (2-7): Toad sentenced by the Council.
NEW MUTANTS 21 (18-20): later the same day as pp. 6-17) --Illyana is present
NEW MUTANTS 22: continues from it; the "strategies and tactics" session goes on for at least six hours (and the final scene's at night during a storm)
HELLIONS 16 (8-10): Night is falling on Krakoa. Kwannon has "accepted the role of Captain" but apparently it hasn't been formally announced to the Council yet.
NEW MUTANTS 23 is immediately after #22.

DAY 17 ("Wednesday"):

HELLIONS 16 (11-20): Begins at dawn at the White Palace. Alex, Emma, Empath present. Emma tells Alex she's "asked the Council to reconsider" resurrecting Madelyne--since Alex wouldn't know there's already pressure to that effect from the Five.
HELLIONS 17 (1-2): Emma confronts Kwannon about "abandoning her post."
HELLIONS 17 (3-20): Orphan-Maker in Arizona, Mutant Base Zeta. The other Hellions follow.
HELLIONS 18 (3-6) -FB: The X-Men arrive on scene.
MARAUDERS 23: Still within a week of the Gala. Emma, Banshee, Jumbo Carnation, Kitty, Lockheed, Tempo.
WAY OF X 4 is not long after the Gala, and if we're looking for a reason why Xavier would not look into how exactly Hope got that Cerebro helmet she was using the day before, this issue provides a good one!
CHILDREN OF THE ATOM 6 (17-21): Daytime. The team has their I-think-we've-all-learned-something-today conversation.
CHILDREN OF THE ATOM 6 (22): That night. Eye-Boy greets Carmen on Krakoa. (Dialogue implies that this is a weekend, but also everyone's still wearing the same clothes as the previous scene.)

DAY 18 ("Thursday"):

WAY OF X 5 is probably the day after #4, still "mere days" after the Gala (Xavier is resurrected). Abigail Brand moves from the Peak to the Keep immediately after it.
INFERNO 2 (17:3 - 17:5) -FB -FB --This is a pure guess, placement-wise: Mystique fights for the Kara Kutuça, it appears. Might as well be here.

DAY 19 ("Friday"):

X-MEN: THE ONSLAUGHT REVELATION (1 - 29:3): seems to be the day after Way of X #5

DURING THE ROUGHLY THREE-WEEK PERIOD BETWEEN DESTINY'S RESURRECTION AND THE END OF INFERNO #1:

EXCALIBUR 22 is not long after the Gala (Pete Wisdom is resurrected).
EXCALIBUR 23 must be after The Last Annihilation, because of Doom.
X-MEN v6 1 (4-40) seems to be a week or two after the Gala; the Treehouse debuts. It must be before X-MEN: THE TRIAL OF MAGNETO 5 (9-11), because John Proudstar is referred to in the past tense.
MARAUDERS 24-25 are "days" after the Gala; we see the Treehouse.
HELLIONS 18: Madelyne is resurrected.
X-MEN: THE TRIAL OF MAGNETO 5 (9-11): the Ritual of Three.
X-MEN: THE TRIAL OF MAGNETO 5 (16-19): Northstar and Kyle in the morning, the day after the ritual. Thunderbird resurrected.
NEW MUTANTS 24 is very shortly after Thunderbird's resurrection, and Madelyne's around too.
S.W.O.R.D. 8
X-MEN 2-3
MARVEL'S VOICES: PRIDE (2021) (13th story): Somnus resurrected.
X-MEN UNLIMITED: LATITUDE 1: Nightcrawler still clean-shaven.
MARVEL'S VOICES INFINITY COMIC 26-32 ("The Family Snikt": Logan is still on good terms with Nature Girl, so before X-MEN GREEN, and Gabby and Laura are available)
X-FORCE 21 (9-20) and 22 and 23 are some indefinite amount of time after the Gala (but definitely before the end of INFERNO 2).
X-MEN UNLIMITED: X-MEN GREEN 1-2 (note that, since this includes a flashback to the morning after the 2021 Gala, the ship that appears to be the Marauder is really the Mercury in the form of the Marauder!)
X-MEN UNLIMITED INFINITY COMIC 13-20 (Juggernaut and Deadpool)
WOLVERINE 14-16 (must be a few weeks after the Gala - there's a flashback to "a month ago" with Solem in Madripoor)
X-CORP 3-5
X-MEN UNLIMITED INFINITY COMIC 21, 27, 34
WOLVERINE 17-19
DEATH OF DOCTOR STRANGE: X-MEN/BLACK KNIGHT 1
X-MEN 4 ("Devil's Night," sometime relatively soon after Doctor Strange's death)
MARAUDERS 26 (Ben Urich still chasing the mutant story)
X-MEN 5 (6-10) -FB
X-MEN 5 (1-3)
X-MEN 5 (11-20)
X-MEN 6 (6-15 and 16)
X-MEN 7 (1-3)
X-MEN 7 (6-18)
X-MEN 7 (4-5)
X-MEN 6 (4-5)
X-MEN 6 (1-3)
X-MEN 6 (17-20)
X-MEN 7 (19-20)
The flashbacks in INFERNO 2 (12-18) seem to go somewhere in this period, and Sinister's conversation with Mystique would be a useful guide to when exactly they go, if the Council didn't seem to meet practically every day!

The main action of INFERNO takes place over four days, but it's presented in somewhat scrambled chronology:

INFERNO DAY 1:

INFERNO 1 (3-6): X-Force attacks Orchis.
INFERNO 1 (14-19): Moira being monitored.
INFERNO 1 (20-24 and 25-26 -VO) ~ INFERNO 3 (10): Moira, Charles, Erik. Doug listens in.

INFERNO DAY 2:

INFERNO 1 (27-29): Doug wakes up and has a chat with Krakoa.
INFERNO 1 (30-34): "Changing of the guard": Kwannon has been a Captain for a while, so Illyana is snarkily pointing out that the Captains have already been making decisions without the Council butting in.
INFERNO 1 (35-40): "Later" at the Quiet Council meeting.
INFERNO 2 (10-37): The meeting continues; then Emma learns the truth about Moira. (INFERNO 2 (28:1) ~ INFERNO 4 (14:1))
X-FORCE 24 must take place here: Xavier recruits Colossus.

INFERNO DAY 3:

INFERNO 2 (38-40): Colossus voted in.
INFERNO 3 (11-17): "two days" after INFERNO 3 (10). (The "recent exceptions" include Wanda and maybe Maddy.) Note that the "four months ago"/"two months ago" in the early scenes must actually be "four months later"/"two months later."
INFERNO 4 (12-13) --actually overlaps that scene by a couple of panels

INFERNO DAY 4:

INFERNO 3 (18-19): Moira is kidnapped. (INFERNO 3 (19:2) ~ INFERNO 4 (14:2))
INFERNO 4 (14:3 - 15:3)
INFERNO 3 (20-23)
INFERNO 4 (15:4)
INFERNO 3 (24-40)
INFERNO 4 (1-11, 16-36)

"One week later":

INFERNO 1 (1-2) ~ INFERNO 4 (37-38)
INFERNO 4 (39-45)
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Well done, Clive! Thanks a bunch! :applause:
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I've made a few adjustments to the above. The bigger ones, for the record:

* CABLE 7 (1-2) are actually on the evening of Day 0 (i.e. several hours after the end of X of Swords).

* NEW MUTANTS 14 has been moved to Day 2: Warlock implies that Doug and Bei have not yet left for their honeymoon, and a few days definitely pass between this issue and #15. I'm pretty sure we don't see the Quiet Council meeting, as such, between Day 4 and Day 11--Sinister's gone anyway--so it works for Doug and Bei to be somewhere else (maybe Chandilore). Doug's back for the Council meeting in S.W.O.R.D. 5 on Day 12.

* Relatedly: the Green Lagoon party in Marvel's Voices: Pride /8 is most likely Doug and Bei's reception!

* Logan's itinerary vis-a-vis Madripoor has been adjusted a bit, since WOLVERINE 8/2 leads directly into #9 and 10 (1-13)... and it's not "a few days" after Logan arrived, it's a few days after Maverick arrived! Also, he's wearing a white suit in that Wolverine sequence and a black jacket in CABLE 9, so he has to have gone back to Madripoor to take care of some business, which has been moved to Day 4 to accommodate his vampire-hunting appearances in X-Force and Wolverine.

* Doom's travels with the Guardians mean that the "Doom" in KING IN BLACK: IRON MAN/DOOM must be a Doombot (no reason he can't be).

* As I mentioned over in the post-Inferno thread, since Bobby is apparently terraforming Mars on the New Year's Eve of the '21 Hellfire Gala (and Christian Frost is off getting killed), the digital-only MIGHTY MARVEL HOLIDAY SPECIAL: ICEMAN'S NEW YEAR'S RESOLUTIONS works if it's moved to the following year's New Year's Eve (i.e. soon after Dark Web).

* I've also added Storm's fight with Nameless, seen in flashback in S.W.O.R.D. 8 and more extensively in X-MEN RED 1 (where it's identified as "just before the Hellfire Gala").

* And here's a glitch: in S.W.O.R.D. 5, Hope tells Cortez that she's the one who "drew the short straw" and restored his mind, but in INFERNO 2 (5:2 - 7:3), Hope says she hasn't put a soul back in a body before, and that has to happen after the Gala. Hm. Maybe there's a distinction between Xavier pulling the info from the Cerebro helmet and Hope doing it? Any better explanations, perhaps making use of the difference between "mind" and "soul"? Nope, it's not Hope, it's Jean, who just has freckles in that scene for some reason.

EDITED TO ADD: I also just added in all the post-Inferno X-comics that must take place during the pre-Inferno period!
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Clive_Reston wrote: Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:11 pmINFERNO DAY 1:

INFERNO 1 (3-6): X-Force attacks Orchis.
INFERNO 1 (14-19): Moira being monitored.
INFERNO 1 (20-24 and 25-26 -VO) ~ INFERNO 3 (10): Moira, Charles, Erik. Doug listens in.

INFERNO DAY 2:

INFERNO 1 (27-29): Doug wakes up and has a chat with Krakoa.
INFERNO 1 (30-34): "Changing of the guard": Kwannon has been a Captain for a while, so Illyana is snarkily pointing out that the Captains have already been making decisions without the Council butting in.
INFERNO 1 (35-40): "Later" at the Quiet Council meeting.
INFERNO 2 (10-37): The meeting continues; then Emma learns the truth about Moira. (INFERNO 2 (28:1) ~ INFERNO 4 (14:1))
X-FORCE 24 must take place here: Xavier recruits Colossus.
Some page range corrections for Inferno 1..

INFERNO 1 (3-6): X-Force attacks Orchis.
INFERNO 1 (15:2-20): Moira being monitored.
INFERNO 1 (21-25, 26-28-VO, 29) ~ INFERNO 3 (10): Moira, Charles, Erik. Doug listens in.

INFERNO DAY 2:

INFERNO 1 (30-32): Doug wakes up and has a chat with Krakoa.
INFERNO 1 (33-37): "Changing of the guard": Kwannon has been a Captain for a while, so Illyana is snarkily pointing out that the Captains have already been making decisions without the Council butting in.
INFERNO 1 (38-43): "Later" at the Quiet Council meeting.
INFERNO 2 (10-37): The meeting continues; then Emma learns the truth about Moira. (INFERNO 2 (28:1) ~ INFERNO 4 (14:1))
X-FORCE 24 must take place here: Xavier recruits Colossus.
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