Here, for convenience's sake, is roughly how the whole Destiny of X period seems to fit together so far:
Immortal X-Men 1-2 (Magneto quits the Council, Hope joins it; Nightcrawler now has his goatee)
Immortal X-Men 3 (not long at all after 2, Storm is "off at another Arakii challenge"; it's "weeks" before Judgment Day)
Black Panther 3-4: Storm in "regent" outfit
Legion of X 1-2 (Hope is on the Council; Storm in "regent" outfit)
Legion of X 3 (the day after 2; Birdy is back)
X-Men Red 1-2 (Magneto has very recently quit the Council, Storm switches costumes)
Giant-Size X-Men: Thunderbird 1 (John Proudstar gets a new costume)
X-Men Red 3 (Thunderbird in new costume; Xandra still on throne)
There is a break in X-Men Red #3, between pp. 3 and 4, during which we get:
X-Men Unlimited Infinity Comic 44-49 (new Marauders crew is operating; Birdy is back; Sinister and Kate Pryde both present on the Council; footage of Thunderbird from GSX:T has been doctored)
Black Panther 5-8: as soon as reasonable after #3-4; Storm in new costume
Then, in rapid and overlapping sequence after the latter part of X-Men Red #3:
Marauders 1-4 (Xandra killed)
X-Men 11-12 (mutant immortality outed; ends the morning of the Gala)
Free Comic Book Day 2022: Judgment Day (3rd story, the night before the Gala)
X-Men Red 4 (no more than "two days" after #3, and in the meantime Xandra has been killed and mutant immortality outed; appears to be the day of the Gala)
Marauders 5 (Xandra and then Kate resurrected, in time for the Gala; last page is a few days later)
X-Men: Hellfire Gala 1
X-Men: Hellfire Gala Confessionals Infinity Comic (right before and after the election)
X-Men Unlimited Infinity Comic 50-51-plus (during the Gala, just after the election)
evidently Amazing Spider-Man 9 (happens the night of the Gala)
Immortal X-Men 4 (begins the morning of Gala day, ends the next night; Sinister kidnapped)
Then there is a break of, let's say, a week or so before AXE:JD, where we can put whatever appearances in other titles are necessary, as long as Sinister's not present.
Legion of X 4 (David already knows about Moira, so after the Gala; AXE hasn't happened yet)
Ms. Marvel & Wolverine 1 (Storm in new costume, Scott Summers is Cyclops rather than Captain Krakoa, so must be after the Gala)
Fortnite X Marvel: Zero War 1-5 (presumably): Storm in new costume, Avengers HQ is still the Celestial, so AXE hasn't happened yet)
Elektra 100 (as with FXM/:ZW, involves the Storm/Thor weather team, so might as well be here)
And then it's A.X.E. time:
X-Force 30 (the first three pages are right after #29; the rest is chronologically scrambled but appears to be a day or two before A.X.E.)
A.X.E.: Eve of Judgment 1
A.X.E.: Judgment Day 1 (probably the next day?)
Immortal X-Men 5 (during Judgment Day 1)
X-Men Red 5 (during Judgment Day 1)
A.X.E.: Judgment Day 2
A.X.E.: Death to the Mutants 1 (during Judgment Day 2)
X-Men 13 (during Judgment Day 2)
A.X.E.: Judgment Day 3
A.X.E.: Death to the Mutants 2 (during Judgment Day 3)
Immortal X-Men 6 (during and after Judgment Day 3)
X-Force 31 (after Judgment Day 3)
Wolverine 24 (concurrent with X-Force 31, supposedly)
Marauders 6 (after Judgment Day 3)
X-Men 14 (after Judgment Day 3)
After AXE:
New Mutants 25-28 (post-AXE, because this is where Magik gets her new look (and stops passing through Limbo while teleporting, though she did during AXE); resurrections from Otherworld deaths still warped)
Knights of X 1-5 (resurrections from Otherworld deaths no longer warped)
New Mutants 29 (Daken/Scout/Warpath one-off)
Free Comic Book Day 2022: Spider-Man/Venom (1st story, apparently some time after NM 25-28)
Marvel's Voices: Pride (2022) #1 (8th story) (sometime before New Mutants 31)
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Re: The rolling post-Inferno X-titles thread
On reflection, the scene with Ororo and T'Challa in X-Men Red 4 makes more sense if it's after Black Panther 3-4 but before 5-8. (And Omolola can have been in custody for a week or two between Black Panther 4 and 5.) So I'm gonna provisionally move Black Panther 5-8 to the interval after Immortal X-Men 4.
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Re: The rolling post-Inferno X-titles thread
This week's very straightforward. Amazing Spider-Man #9 is right where it seemed like it would be (the night of the Gala); X-Men Red #6 is immediately after #5 (and still probably within the timeline of AXE:JD 1); and Judgment Day #4 is mostly after everything else in the AXE timeline so far (though an early scene is the same as one of the final scenes of Immortal X-Men #6). Also, Wolverine/Logan and Magik both appear in Midnight Suns #1, sometime after New Mutants #25-28 (because Magik has her new look).
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Re: The rolling post-Inferno X-titles thread
There is a possible issue regarding Reckoning War and Amazing Spider-Man.
At the beginning of Reckoning War Alpha we see Ben Reilly as Spider-Man when the moon is destroyed. Reckoning War lasts four days, during which time Earth is under attack by the Badoons. At the end of these four days, the Watcher returns the moon to normal. But the Human Torch does not return to Earth, but heads to the planet Spyre to find the cure for his condition, since he cannot extinguish the flame.
In Fantastic Four 46, Overseer finds the cure to bring Johnny (who claims to be "lit up like this for weeks") back to his normal power levels, and Johnny then returns to Earth with the others.
But in Amazing Spider-Man 1 we see the Human Torch visit Peter, six months after the infamous "incident" that led him to cut ties with the Fantastic Four, claiming that he cannot extinguish the flame.
The only possible move is to imagine that during the time Johnny was on Spyre he might also occasionally return to Earth, and the visit to Spidey was in one of those moments.
The sequence of events should be:
- Devil's Reign (Ben Reilly as Spider-Man, Human Torch always on)
- Reckoning War (Ben Reilly as Spider-Man, Torch leaves for Spyre).
- Final cycle of Beyond (Peter Parker returns to being Spider-Man)
- Devil's Reign epilogue (Human Torch absent at "Matt Murdock's" funeral, in Daredevil 1 Peter is Spider-Man)
- "Incident" six months before Amazing Spider-Man 1, Spidey cuts ties with several people including Reed and Sue, we don't actually know if Johnny is present)
- Amazing Spider-Man 1 (Human Torch must be visiting from Spyre)
- Fantastic Four 46 (the Torch is healed after being "lit up like this for weeks")
At the beginning of Reckoning War Alpha we see Ben Reilly as Spider-Man when the moon is destroyed. Reckoning War lasts four days, during which time Earth is under attack by the Badoons. At the end of these four days, the Watcher returns the moon to normal. But the Human Torch does not return to Earth, but heads to the planet Spyre to find the cure for his condition, since he cannot extinguish the flame.
In Fantastic Four 46, Overseer finds the cure to bring Johnny (who claims to be "lit up like this for weeks") back to his normal power levels, and Johnny then returns to Earth with the others.
But in Amazing Spider-Man 1 we see the Human Torch visit Peter, six months after the infamous "incident" that led him to cut ties with the Fantastic Four, claiming that he cannot extinguish the flame.
The only possible move is to imagine that during the time Johnny was on Spyre he might also occasionally return to Earth, and the visit to Spidey was in one of those moments.
The sequence of events should be:
- Devil's Reign (Ben Reilly as Spider-Man, Human Torch always on)
- Reckoning War (Ben Reilly as Spider-Man, Torch leaves for Spyre).
- Final cycle of Beyond (Peter Parker returns to being Spider-Man)
- Devil's Reign epilogue (Human Torch absent at "Matt Murdock's" funeral, in Daredevil 1 Peter is Spider-Man)
- "Incident" six months before Amazing Spider-Man 1, Spidey cuts ties with several people including Reed and Sue, we don't actually know if Johnny is present)
- Amazing Spider-Man 1 (Human Torch must be visiting from Spyre)
- Fantastic Four 46 (the Torch is healed after being "lit up like this for weeks")
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Re: The rolling post-Inferno X-titles thread
This week, we've got A.X.E.: Judgment Day #5 (which picks up right after #4), plus two tie-ins: Avengers #60 (a Hawkeye solo story that's during the 24-hour timeline of the Progenitor's judgment) and Fantastic Four #47 (in the same time span; I'll have to check and see if we see any of the FF in AXE:JD 4; they're definitely in #5).
Otherwise, we've got New Mutants #30, which has a ton of flashbacks (including one that leads into the original X-Force #75, one of my faves); its let's-call-it-second story appears to be the end of Deadpool's tenure on Krakoa, so at some point after the current X-Force storyline, conveniently. X-Terminators #1 has no particular placement cues yet other than the availability of its four lead characters. And Legion of X #5 probably has a time jump before its final page or two, which lead right into Uranos' attack on Arakko in X-Men Red.
Otherwise, we've got New Mutants #30, which has a ton of flashbacks (including one that leads into the original X-Force #75, one of my faves); its let's-call-it-second story appears to be the end of Deadpool's tenure on Krakoa, so at some point after the current X-Force storyline, conveniently. X-Terminators #1 has no particular placement cues yet other than the availability of its four lead characters. And Legion of X #5 probably has a time jump before its final page or two, which lead right into Uranos' attack on Arakko in X-Men Red.
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Also, the Deadpool story in New Mutants 30 has to take place after New Mutants 28, since Illyana is wearing her new costume, and therefore after Judgment Day.
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Re: The rolling post-Inferno X-titles thread
This week's A.X.E.: Avengers #1 takes place after AXE:JD 5. (Kieron Gillen has helpfully noted that the six tie-ins he's written that are appearing before #6 are "all set after the end of #5 and before #6 (or slightly overlapping with the end of 5 in the case of Death to the Mutants 3 and Immortal X-men 7).")
AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #10, an A.X.E. tie-in, is a little trickier. Iron Man appears on pg. 2, let's say between AXE:JD 3 and 4. But we also see Peter Parker with Miles Morales and with Kamala Khan, and Kamala sees the Progenitor as Carol Danvers (but in glowing-eye form, so she knows it's the Progenitor)--and we saw Miles getting a thumbs-up from Progenitor-as-Peter (and Kamala fighting the Progenitor, who's pretending to be Carol) in AXE:JD 4 (4:5 and 6:5, respectively). Fortunately, the ASM issue is a bit clearer about its dusk-to-dusk timeline than AXE:JD itself has been. So:
ASM6 10 (9): Peter comes to see Miles in the evening.
ASM6 10 (12-14): In the morning, Peter goes to work and sees Kamala, who is seeing Progenitor-as-glowing-eye-Carol.
AXE:JD 4: Sometime during the day, Kamala encounters the Progenitor in non-glowing-eye Carol form, and demands to know where the real Carol is. Later, Miles sees the Progenitor-as-Peter giving him a thumbs-up.
ASM 10 (15-20): Seems to be continuous from 12-14--but in 12-14 it's definitely morning, and in 15-20 it's definitely dusk.
X-MEN 15 is not just after A.X.E., it's after New Mutants 25-28 (Magik has her new armor). There's also a flashback on pp. 11-12 that's "the origin of Project Blackbox," so before X-MEN: HELLFIRE GALA.
Also, this week's DEFENDERS BEYOND #3 has some really juicy Phoenix stuff, and connects the metaphysical dots between the White Hot Room, CX 8/2, X 108, CX 43/2, and (kinda-sorta) DHKF 19 and 19/2!
AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #10, an A.X.E. tie-in, is a little trickier. Iron Man appears on pg. 2, let's say between AXE:JD 3 and 4. But we also see Peter Parker with Miles Morales and with Kamala Khan, and Kamala sees the Progenitor as Carol Danvers (but in glowing-eye form, so she knows it's the Progenitor)--and we saw Miles getting a thumbs-up from Progenitor-as-Peter (and Kamala fighting the Progenitor, who's pretending to be Carol) in AXE:JD 4 (4:5 and 6:5, respectively). Fortunately, the ASM issue is a bit clearer about its dusk-to-dusk timeline than AXE:JD itself has been. So:
ASM6 10 (9): Peter comes to see Miles in the evening.
ASM6 10 (12-14): In the morning, Peter goes to work and sees Kamala, who is seeing Progenitor-as-glowing-eye-Carol.
AXE:JD 4: Sometime during the day, Kamala encounters the Progenitor in non-glowing-eye Carol form, and demands to know where the real Carol is. Later, Miles sees the Progenitor-as-Peter giving him a thumbs-up.
ASM 10 (15-20): Seems to be continuous from 12-14--but in 12-14 it's definitely morning, and in 15-20 it's definitely dusk.
X-MEN 15 is not just after A.X.E., it's after New Mutants 25-28 (Magik has her new armor). There's also a flashback on pp. 11-12 that's "the origin of Project Blackbox," so before X-MEN: HELLFIRE GALA.
Also, this week's DEFENDERS BEYOND #3 has some really juicy Phoenix stuff, and connects the metaphysical dots between the White Hot Room, CX 8/2, X 108, CX 43/2, and (kinda-sorta) DHKF 19 and 19/2!
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Re: The rolling post-Inferno X-titles thread
This week's X-MEN RED #7 takes place during AXE:JD 4 --specifically, its first scene overlaps with AXE:JD 4 (17:4), and the rest of the issue is sometime before AXE:JD 4 (19-22).
A.X.E.: X-MEN #1 is, no surprise, just after last week's Avengers one-shot.
A.X.E.: STARFOX #1 is somewhere in the space after AXE:JD 5 (parallel to the other three one-shots), although Kieron Gillen's newsletter from this morning notes that it's after A.X.E.: Death to the Mutants #3, which comes out next week!
MARAUDERS #7 is sometime shortly after A.X.E. is over.
Also potentially significant: this week's X-Men Unlimited Infinity Comic, #55, which wraps up the Hellfire Gala '22 story that's been running since #50 and has some interesting implications for Gorgon.
A.X.E.: X-MEN #1 is, no surprise, just after last week's Avengers one-shot.
A.X.E.: STARFOX #1 is somewhere in the space after AXE:JD 5 (parallel to the other three one-shots), although Kieron Gillen's newsletter from this morning notes that it's after A.X.E.: Death to the Mutants #3, which comes out next week!
MARAUDERS #7 is sometime shortly after A.X.E. is over.
Also potentially significant: this week's X-Men Unlimited Infinity Comic, #55, which wraps up the Hellfire Gala '22 story that's been running since #50 and has some interesting implications for Gorgon.
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Re: The rolling post-Inferno X-titles thread
Oh boy, THIS was a week for X-books.
Easy stuff first: A.X.E.: Iron Fist is sometime during the Progenitor's 24 hours of judgment, doesn't matter where. Same goes for Fantastic Four #47-48 and Captain Marvel #42.
A.X.E.: Eternals #1 follows directly from the AXE:Avengers > AXE: X-Men sequence, as anticipated. And A.X.E.: Death to the Mutants #3 precedes AXE: Starfox #1. (The latter is tricky, though; see below.)
Slightly harder: Wolverine #25 (first story; the second is not placement-specific at all) and X-Force #32 clarify what's going on with those two series' "parallel" AXE sequences. Specifically, Logan gets finished with the former, and appears back on Krakoa on pg. 17 of the latter, still during the Progenitor's day. He thinks "the Eternals are attacking again," which was confusing until I realized that he hasn't been brought up to speed yet, and what he's seeing is the Uni-Mind business from AXE:JD 4 (10).
The non-flashback bits of Legion of X #6 (only pages 1 and 19-20, plus narration throughout) are during the Progenitor's day too, sometime between pages 16 and 20 of AXE:JD 4. The flashbacks are during X-Men Red #5-7 (and so embedded within AXE:JD 1-4). I'll work out how the whole matryoshka works at some point, but here's how it fits with X-Men Red (and yes I know this isn't quite the correct use of tildes & also not the correct abbreviation for this volume of X-Men Red, it's just for the sake of convenience):
LoX 6 (2) -FB
XR 5 (1 - 3:1)
LoX 6 (3:1) - FB
XR 5 (3:2 - 4:1)
LoX 6 (3:2 - 3:6) - FB
LoX 6 (3:7) - FB ~ XR 5 (4:2)
XR 5 (4:3 - 7:1)
LoX 6 (4) - FB
XR 5 (7:2 - 7:3)
LoX 6 (5) -FB
XR 5 (8 - 9:1)
XR 5 (9:2 - 9:4) ~ LoX (6:1 - 6:2) -FB
LoX 6 (6:3 - 11:1) -FB
XR 5 (9:5 - 10-11:6)
LoX (11:2 - 11:4) -FB
XR 5 (12 - 20)
LoX 6 (12 - 17/18:3) - FB
XR 6 (1-17)
LoX 6 (17/18:4) - FB
LoX 6 (17/18:5) -FB ~ XR 6 (18)
LoX 6 (17/18:6) - FB
XR 6 (19-20)
XR 7 (1 - 5) (so AXE:JD 4 (16), roughly)
LoX 6 (17/18: 7) - FB
And now the crazy-hard ones: A.X.E.: Death to the Mutants #3 and Immortal X-Men #7, both of which are mostly simultaneous with AXE:JD 5. Here's how THAT seems to work (and please correct me if I've gotten something wrong):
LoX 6 "present" sequence: (1) and (19-20)
IX 7 (1-2) [straight into:]
AXE:JD 4 (21-22) ~ IX 7 (3) ~ AXE:DttM 3 (1)
IX 7 (4-6)
AXE: JD 5 (1-3)
AXE:DttM 3 (2-3)
IX 7 (7) ~ AXE:JD 5 (3)
IX 7 (8:1 - 8:2)
AXE:JD 5 (4 - 5:2)
IX 7 (8:3)
AXE:JD 5 (5:3 - 5:4)
IX 7 (8:4 - 8:7)
AXE:JD 5 (5:5 - 5:6)
IX 7 (9:1)
AXE:JD 5 (6:1 - 6:3)
AXE:JD 5 (6:4) ~ IX 7 (9:2)
AXE:JD 5 (6:5)
IX 7 (9:3)
AXE:JD 5 (7:1 - 7:2)
IX 7 (9:4)
AXE:JD 5 (7:3 - 7:6)
IX 7 (9:5)
AXE: JD 5 (8 - 11)
AXE:DttM 3 (4) roughly simultaneous with AXE:JD 5 (12)
AXE:JD 5 (13:1)
IX 7 (10)
AXE:JD 5 (13:2)
AXE:DttM 3 (5 - 6)
AXE:JD 5 (13:3 - 14)
IX 7 (11 - 13)
AXE:JD 5 (15)
AXE:DttM 3 (7-8)
IX 7 (14)
AXE:JD 5 (16)
AXE:DttM 3 (9-10)
AXE:JD 5 (17-18)
IX 7 (15:1 - 15:3)
AXE:JD 5 (19:1 - 19:3)
IX 7 (15:4) ~ AXE:JD 5 (19:4)
AXE:JD 5 (20)
IX 7 (15:5 - 21) --I'm counting it that way because the text page also has lettering!
AXE:DttM 3 (11-20)
AXE: STARFOX 1
PHEW.
Easy stuff first: A.X.E.: Iron Fist is sometime during the Progenitor's 24 hours of judgment, doesn't matter where. Same goes for Fantastic Four #47-48 and Captain Marvel #42.
A.X.E.: Eternals #1 follows directly from the AXE:Avengers > AXE: X-Men sequence, as anticipated. And A.X.E.: Death to the Mutants #3 precedes AXE: Starfox #1. (The latter is tricky, though; see below.)
Slightly harder: Wolverine #25 (first story; the second is not placement-specific at all) and X-Force #32 clarify what's going on with those two series' "parallel" AXE sequences. Specifically, Logan gets finished with the former, and appears back on Krakoa on pg. 17 of the latter, still during the Progenitor's day. He thinks "the Eternals are attacking again," which was confusing until I realized that he hasn't been brought up to speed yet, and what he's seeing is the Uni-Mind business from AXE:JD 4 (10).
The non-flashback bits of Legion of X #6 (only pages 1 and 19-20, plus narration throughout) are during the Progenitor's day too, sometime between pages 16 and 20 of AXE:JD 4. The flashbacks are during X-Men Red #5-7 (and so embedded within AXE:JD 1-4). I'll work out how the whole matryoshka works at some point, but here's how it fits with X-Men Red (and yes I know this isn't quite the correct use of tildes & also not the correct abbreviation for this volume of X-Men Red, it's just for the sake of convenience):
LoX 6 (2) -FB
XR 5 (1 - 3:1)
LoX 6 (3:1) - FB
XR 5 (3:2 - 4:1)
LoX 6 (3:2 - 3:6) - FB
LoX 6 (3:7) - FB ~ XR 5 (4:2)
XR 5 (4:3 - 7:1)
LoX 6 (4) - FB
XR 5 (7:2 - 7:3)
LoX 6 (5) -FB
XR 5 (8 - 9:1)
XR 5 (9:2 - 9:4) ~ LoX (6:1 - 6:2) -FB
LoX 6 (6:3 - 11:1) -FB
XR 5 (9:5 - 10-11:6)
LoX (11:2 - 11:4) -FB
XR 5 (12 - 20)
LoX 6 (12 - 17/18:3) - FB
XR 6 (1-17)
LoX 6 (17/18:4) - FB
LoX 6 (17/18:5) -FB ~ XR 6 (18)
LoX 6 (17/18:6) - FB
XR 6 (19-20)
XR 7 (1 - 5) (so AXE:JD 4 (16), roughly)
LoX 6 (17/18: 7) - FB
And now the crazy-hard ones: A.X.E.: Death to the Mutants #3 and Immortal X-Men #7, both of which are mostly simultaneous with AXE:JD 5. Here's how THAT seems to work (and please correct me if I've gotten something wrong):
LoX 6 "present" sequence: (1) and (19-20)
IX 7 (1-2) [straight into:]
AXE:JD 4 (21-22) ~ IX 7 (3) ~ AXE:DttM 3 (1)
IX 7 (4-6)
AXE: JD 5 (1-3)
AXE:DttM 3 (2-3)
IX 7 (7) ~ AXE:JD 5 (3)
IX 7 (8:1 - 8:2)
AXE:JD 5 (4 - 5:2)
IX 7 (8:3)
AXE:JD 5 (5:3 - 5:4)
IX 7 (8:4 - 8:7)
AXE:JD 5 (5:5 - 5:6)
IX 7 (9:1)
AXE:JD 5 (6:1 - 6:3)
AXE:JD 5 (6:4) ~ IX 7 (9:2)
AXE:JD 5 (6:5)
IX 7 (9:3)
AXE:JD 5 (7:1 - 7:2)
IX 7 (9:4)
AXE:JD 5 (7:3 - 7:6)
IX 7 (9:5)
AXE: JD 5 (8 - 11)
AXE:DttM 3 (4) roughly simultaneous with AXE:JD 5 (12)
AXE:JD 5 (13:1)
IX 7 (10)
AXE:JD 5 (13:2)
AXE:DttM 3 (5 - 6)
AXE:JD 5 (13:3 - 14)
IX 7 (11 - 13)
AXE:JD 5 (15)
AXE:DttM 3 (7-8)
IX 7 (14)
AXE:JD 5 (16)
AXE:DttM 3 (9-10)
AXE:JD 5 (17-18)
IX 7 (15:1 - 15:3)
AXE:JD 5 (19:1 - 19:3)
IX 7 (15:4) ~ AXE:JD 5 (19:4)
AXE:JD 5 (20)
IX 7 (15:5 - 21) --I'm counting it that way because the text page also has lettering!
AXE:DttM 3 (11-20)
AXE: STARFOX 1
PHEW.
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Re: The rolling post-Inferno X-titles thread
Just two this week. X-FORCE 33 clarifies the timeline a bit; I'd thought last week that Logan returned to Krakoa last issue during the Uni-Mind's formation, but it seems more likely that it's during the "Uranos and his machines attack Earth" situation that flies by in AXE:JD 4 (14-16), but is at least "minutes" long. (Also, Beast has hidden himself away in the Pointe, and isn't quite up to date on what's happening in the Eternals conflict, because he's too busy congratulating himself on being Krakoa's line of defense...) Anyway, it's immediately after #32 and all happens super quickly.
And X-MEN 16 is right after 15. Magik is in her new armor, so we're at some point after New Mutants 25-28.
And X-MEN 16 is right after 15. Magik is in her new armor, so we're at some point after New Mutants 25-28.
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Note that X-Men 16 establishes that Darwin was never resurrected after Hickman's Children of the Vault storyline. That means that the Feral and Marrow story in the 2021 Women of Marvel Comics has to take place before Darwin went into the Vault, since Darwin has a cameo.
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Re: The rolling post-Inferno X-titles thread
Oh, good call--thank you, Michael!
AVX:JD #6 is, no surprise, after the rest of the mini and its tie-ins to date. Wolverine #26 is sometime after Judgment Day. New Mutants #31 is "a few weeks" after Escapade's first appearance, the 8th story in Marvel's Voices: Pride (2022) #1. (This one should be used for placing THAT story.)
The first curveball of the week is that in AVX:JD 6, the Progenitor "put(s) things as they were before (his) judgment"--meaning deaths that came after the big thumbs-down at the end of AVX:JD 4 are reversed, not deaths that came after the individual judgments began. Arjun, for instance, is still dead, and so is Magneto (per New Mutants 31). Well, he'd have to be, for the sake of dramatic coherence, but still.
The second curveball is that X-Terminators #2 has a flash-forward (yes that's what it is, the rest of the issue is not a flashback, this is the hill I will die on) to after the whole thing is over: the main cast is explaining things to the Quiet Council, and although nobody says so, the strong implication is that it's Halloween. (Or maybe they were on their way to a costume party at some other time.) The QC includes Destiny and Sinister, so it has to be sometime Sinister's available.
Curveball the third is that this week's The Variants #4 has a substantial role for Charles Xavier!
AVX:JD #6 is, no surprise, after the rest of the mini and its tie-ins to date. Wolverine #26 is sometime after Judgment Day. New Mutants #31 is "a few weeks" after Escapade's first appearance, the 8th story in Marvel's Voices: Pride (2022) #1. (This one should be used for placing THAT story.)
The first curveball of the week is that in AVX:JD 6, the Progenitor "put(s) things as they were before (his) judgment"--meaning deaths that came after the big thumbs-down at the end of AVX:JD 4 are reversed, not deaths that came after the individual judgments began. Arjun, for instance, is still dead, and so is Magneto (per New Mutants 31). Well, he'd have to be, for the sake of dramatic coherence, but still.
The second curveball is that X-Terminators #2 has a flash-forward (yes that's what it is, the rest of the issue is not a flashback, this is the hill I will die on) to after the whole thing is over: the main cast is explaining things to the Quiet Council, and although nobody says so, the strong implication is that it's Halloween. (Or maybe they were on their way to a costume party at some other time.) The QC includes Destiny and Sinister, so it has to be sometime Sinister's available.
Curveball the third is that this week's The Variants #4 has a substantial role for Charles Xavier!
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Re: The rolling post-Inferno X-titles thread
Only one X-title in print this week (but that's okay, next week we get six, sigh). X-MEN RED #8 takes place after A.X.E. is all over (and touches on lots of other things we've seen, notably X5 10 -FB).
There's some interesting activity going on in the Infinity Comics line, though. In particular, the Love Unlimited: X Loves of Wolverine Infinity Comic sequence (#19 to, I'm guessing, #28--it's currently at #21) already involves a bunch of inserts into Logan and Mariko Yashida's relationship. And this week's X-Men Unlimited Infinity Comic #59 is a "Halloween" (cough, topical reference) one-off with Cypher, Leech and a bunch of other Krakoan kids; it's written by Alex Paknadel, whose Unlimited stories so far have been really enjoyable.
There's some interesting activity going on in the Infinity Comics line, though. In particular, the Love Unlimited: X Loves of Wolverine Infinity Comic sequence (#19 to, I'm guessing, #28--it's currently at #21) already involves a bunch of inserts into Logan and Mariko Yashida's relationship. And this week's X-Men Unlimited Infinity Comic #59 is a "Halloween" (cough, topical reference) one-off with Cypher, Leech and a bunch of other Krakoan kids; it's written by Alex Paknadel, whose Unlimited stories so far have been really enjoyable.
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Re: The rolling post-Inferno X-titles thread
So, uh, Deadpool is an X-title now, apparently? (Despite its all-upper-case lettering!) Anyway, if I'm reading New Mutants #30 correctly as being where Deadpool gets kicked off Krakoa, the new Deadpool #1 is sometime before that.
So is Wolverine #27, the bulk of which takes place "weeks" and then "days" after #26, when Deadpool is still in X-Force.
A.X.E.: Judgment Day Omega is the day after AXE:JD 6. (It has one two-page scene with Logan and Cypher, and that's really it for X-content.)
Marauders #8 can't be more than a day or so after #7. Legion of X #7 is also very soon after Judgment Day.
Sabretooth & the Exiles #1 begins maybe an hour after Sabretooth #5--which is to say before the "Destiny of X" period begins! If it ends up needing to be later, I suppose it's possible to stick another long break into Sabretooth #4 because of the Pit's "time dilation" effect, but the end of #4 and all of #5 still have to be before Legion of X #3 because of Birdy.
This week's X-Men Unlimited Infinity Comic #60 begins a serial with Hope and Dani Moonstar; it's at some point when Hope is on the Council.
And Venom #13 is a Dark Web prologue, with Maddy ruling Limbo; exact placement TBD.
So is Wolverine #27, the bulk of which takes place "weeks" and then "days" after #26, when Deadpool is still in X-Force.
A.X.E.: Judgment Day Omega is the day after AXE:JD 6. (It has one two-page scene with Logan and Cypher, and that's really it for X-content.)
Marauders #8 can't be more than a day or so after #7. Legion of X #7 is also very soon after Judgment Day.
Sabretooth & the Exiles #1 begins maybe an hour after Sabretooth #5--which is to say before the "Destiny of X" period begins! If it ends up needing to be later, I suppose it's possible to stick another long break into Sabretooth #4 because of the Pit's "time dilation" effect, but the end of #4 and all of #5 still have to be before Legion of X #3 because of Birdy.
This week's X-Men Unlimited Infinity Comic #60 begins a serial with Hope and Dani Moonstar; it's at some point when Hope is on the Council.
And Venom #13 is a Dark Web prologue, with Maddy ruling Limbo; exact placement TBD.
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Re: The rolling post-Inferno X-titles thread
Only one X-book this week, IMMORTAL X-MEN #8, and it takes place entirely in 1943 and 1895--although it's narrated by Destiny in the present day. (Would Destiny then be -OP for the entire issue, and also in two different -FBs? I know narrators of flashbacks aren't often singled out, but I wonder if there's some way to signal that present-day Destiny is telling this story.)
It also makes the intriguing suggestion that Mystique was in fact my great-uncle!
It also makes the intriguing suggestion that Mystique was in fact my great-uncle!