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This week's X-Force 39 clarifies the recent timeline of that series and Wolverine. It's Wolverine 26-most of 29, then X-Force 34-38, then the last scene of Wolverine 29 plus 30-31; X-Force 39 is concurrent with most of Wolverine 32, and specifically Wolverine 32 (8:5 - 8:6) = X-Force 39 (1:1 - 1:4).

Bishop: War College 3 continues from the previous two issues, and (phew) confirms that it's after recent Sabretooth appearances. New Mutants: Lethal Legion 2 continues from #1, and isn't very placement-specific.

Nightcrawlers 3 is very satisfying, and strongly implies that we're going to know some more about placing the present-day bits around Sins of Sinister after the whole thing wraps up next week.

Marvel's Voices Infinity Comic 49 concludes the Negasonic Teenage Warhead story that's been running since #44. Deadpool's apparently with Krakoa; no other particular placement needs.
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Phew, Sins of Sinister: Dominion #1 is quite a thing. It does, as expected, loop us back around to the first page of Immortal X-Men #10, and then some stuff happens that is definitely going to affect some placements if it doesn't get reversed swiftly... also, it leaves open the question of what's up with the mysterious placement of Legion of X 7-10, but perhaps next week's Sons of X one-shot will resolve that? Fingers crossed.

Betsy Braddock: Captain Britain 3 continues placidly on from last issue. Emma Frost and Feilong appear in Invincible Iron Man 5, which is one of those stories that's going to have to go before the Sins of Sinister time-loop, I think. (Weirdly, it involves Tony Stark implying that he never had a secret identity. Huh.)

Clobberin' Time 2 is mostly set on Krakoa, and involves Logan... but Magneto seems to appear in the background in a couple of panels, which would move it back to sometime before Destiny of X!
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Clobberin' Time was supposed to be released last year. The presence of Banner with the FF in issue 1 and their looks harken back to Immortal Hulk 50. Expect the next issues to take place earlier than the release date would have you expect.
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That makes sense! (Also the mutant on pg. 3 of Clobberin' Time 2 who looks a bit like Anole--I feel like I should recognize them, but I don't--is the subject of a bit of dialogue ["Yer rocks. I'm rocks."] that would make more sense if it were Rockslide/Wrongslide, but that's definitely not who it is...)
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Oh holy crap this week's issues (Immortal X-Men 11 and X-Men: Before the Fall - Sons of X). They do kind of address the question of timing of Legion of X 7-10, but... OOF. (And a note in Sons of X claims it takes place before Immortal X-Men 11, but it has to be after all but the last couple of pages of it.) Here's what I make of it (and if anyone has a better idea, please tell):

In the pre- and during-Sins of Sinister timeline, we get Legion of X 7 (1-14). Sinister shoots Kurt, and is present when Hope resurrects him.

Then, in Immortal X-Men 9 and 10, Sinister attacks the Council (with some returns to his save point), eventually succeeds, and starts his new "save point" on the first page of #10. The Council members are resurrected, and Sinister is captured and sent to the pit. In Sins of Sinister 1 (4-7), the covertly Sinisterized council meets.

Then we pick up again with Legion of X 7 (15)--"Ah. You're back" is the first line of dialogue there!--and continue through the end of LoX 10. Mother Righteous talks to Vox Ignis, Kurt visits Nemesis's lab (and makes a joke about how yeah, Sinister really wasn't helpful), etc. He keeps mutating. There's the whole business with the Babel Spire, Xavier tells David he's proud of him (while infecting him with a psychic Trojan), Orchis kidnaps Kurt, etc. And then the rest of the 1000-year SoS timeline proceeds.

Now, for the post-SoS timeline!

The SoS:Dominion 1 reset takes us back to the first page of Immortal X-Men #10. This time, Rasputin IV captures Sinister. Then the Council members are resurrected before Rasputin IV and Mother Righteous turn up and they're sent to the Pit at the end of SoS:D 1. They are brought out of the pit at the beginning of IX 11 (Kurt is not present), allegedly have their genes cleaned up, and fight. As Shaw notes, there are now "four votes gone" (well, five--but not six, at any rate). Then there's a break before the last two pages, during which (according to Kieron Gillen's newsletter this morning) next week's X-Men Red #11 happens.

Also during that break, the events of Legion of X 7 (15-20) and issues 8-10--described in a text page of X:BtFSoX as "the fallout from Mister Sinister's timeline-adjusting coup"-- happen pretty much the same way, except that this time Sean is NOT Vox Ignis, and/or has his memory of having been Vox Ignis removed (by either Mother Righteous or Legion). Between LoX 10 and X:BtFSoX, Orchis has captured Kurt and appears to be making him kill for them (although the story and art are vague enough on this point that I wonder if it might not be Wagnerine). Then X:BtFSoX 1 happens, ending with Kurt giving his vote to Storm. And finally, we get the last two pages of Immortal X-Men 11.

Meanwhile, also this week, X-Men Unlimited Infinity Comic 85 wraps up the storyline that's been going since #80 (with Jubilee and bearded Nightcrawler). And, uh, someone pretty mutant-significant turns up on the final page of Scarlet Witch #5, although he's young-looking enough that I suspect he might not be exactly who he seems.
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I think that's the best solution. There's the problem that Xavier doesn't seem to recognize Mother Righteous in Legion of X 9 but we'll have to ignore that.The Legion talks as if Xavier was Sinisterized in Legion of X 8-10, and he's cured after getting out of the Pit in Immortal X-Men 11 but Forge says it's possible he'll suffer a relapse- we'll just assume he had a relapse and was cured again off panel.
The other issue is that in Immortal X-Men 13, it's decided that Xavier, Emma and Hope won't be doing the telepathic part of the resurrections any more- the Cuckoos will be handling it. But in Before the Fall: Sons of X, the Cuckoos don't seem to be performing the resurrections. (I have a feeling that's going to be a common problem- in theory, any scene where Xavier, Emma, Hope or Exodus perform the resurrections should take place before Immortal X-Men 13. But in practice, we're probably going to have to ignore that.)
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Michael wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 8:42 pm I think that's the best solution. There's the problem that Xavier doesn't seem to recognize Mother Righteous in Legion of X 9 but we'll have to ignore that.The Legion talks as if Xavier was Sinisterized in Legion of X 8-10, and he's cured after getting out of the Pit in Immortal X-Men 11 but Forge says it's possible he'll suffer a relapse- we'll just assume he had a relapse and was cured again off panel.
Assuming LoX 7-10 are what things looked like before the timeline-reset, then Xavier wouldn't have recognized Mother Righteous anyway. In the version of those events that happened after the reset, Xavier *would* have recognized her, but that isn't the version that appeared in those issues!
The other issue is that in Immortal X-Men 13, it's decided that Xavier, Emma and Hope won't be doing the telepathic part of the resurrections any more- the Cuckoos will be handling it. But in Before the Fall: Sons of X, the Cuckoos don't seem to be performing the resurrections. (I have a feeling that's going to be a common problem- in theory, any scene where Xavier, Emma, Hope or Exodus perform the resurrections should take place before Immortal X-Men 13. But in practice, we're probably going to have to ignore that.)
The relevant dialogue from IX 11 is "Xavier is removed from resurrection duties. We have the Cuckoos covering. Hope's work will continue at a reduced rate, but anyone she brings back will go through Forge's cleaning process... and be under psychic surveillance." But 1) just because we don't see the Cuckoos there in Sons of X doesn't mean they're not off-panel, and 2) we know that Hope and Jean have both used the Cerebro unit for the telepathic part when Xavier wasn't around. (And Hope, rather than Synch or Mimic, appears to still be part of the Five's process... though we don't know if Sinisterized Hope can still de-Sinisterize the resurrect-ees.)
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Honestly, what I suspect is that LOX 7-10 as published take place in the Sins of Sinister timeline. Then, post-reset, we pick up after the "real" version of events which are broadly similar in outline & outcome but different in details.
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Somebody wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 5:59 am Honestly, what I suspect is that LOX 7-10 as published take place in the Sins of Sinister timeline. Then, post-reset, we pick up after the "real" version of events which are broadly similar in outline & outcome but different in details.
That's the point I was trying to make, and you made it much more clearly!
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So, in the light of this week's issues, I've reordered a bunch of things. Here's how the post-Inferno scenario looks now:

PART 1: INFERNO TO DESTINY

Inferno 1-4 (and the first few pages of X Deaths 1)
Marauders 27 (Emma leaves Hellfire; Feilong's Martian outpost is open)
X-Force 25-26
X Lives of Wolverine 1
(present-day bits of The Life of Wolverine Infinity Comic 1-10 take place during X Lives #1)
the rest of X Lives/X Deaths
Wolverine 20-23 (very shortly after X Deaths 5, except for last two pages of 23, which are just before X-Force 30)
X-Men Unlimited Infinity Comic 22-25 ("a few weeks" after "Latitude")
X-Men 8 (not super long after 5-7)
Marauders Annual 1 (new crew is lined up, Emma gives Kate the box)
X-Force Annual 1 (Emma is no longer running Hellfire but there's an active Marauders crew; Beast with one eye; Quentin Quire still around)
X-Force 27-29 (a bit of time has gone by since 25-26, but Magneto is still on the Council, and X Lives/Deaths is pretty recent; Quentin Quire goes away)
X-Men Unlimited Infinity Comic 26 (this one takes place on "St. Patrick's Day," but it's here for the sake of numbering; really, it's fine just about any time in the Krakoan era)
X-Men Unlimited Infinity Comic 28
X-Men Unlimited Infinity Comic 29-33 (note: 27 and 34 are not listed here because they continue directly from 21)
S.W.O.R.D. 9-11 (the "debacle with Phobos" could be either Way of X 5 or X-Men 6)
Devil's Reign: X-Men 1-3 (Scott is Captain Krakoa)
Sabretooth 1-5 (starts much earlier, ends sometime after X Lives/Deaths; Birdy not yet resurrected)
Sabretooth and the Exiles 1-5 (starts very shortly after Sabretooth 5; last page could be a lot later?)
Secret X-Men 1 (must be after S.W.O.R.D. 9-11 and before the new Marauders series)
Excalibur 24-26 (it's been "months" since X of Swords)
X-Men Unlimited Infinity Comic 35-40 (Maggott story; Scott is Captain Krakoa)
X-Men 9-10 (Nightcrawler with goatee)
X-Men Unlimited Infinity Comic 41 (Generation X reunion)
X-Men Unlimited Infinity Comic 42-43 (Cypher)
X-Men Unlimited Infinity Comic 44-49 (new Marauders crew is operating; Birdy is back; Sinister is present on the Council, but we see neither Magneto nor Hope; footage from Giant-Size X-Men: Thunderbird 1 has been altered, and btw I'm moving that one to just after New Mutants 24; the Council learns that Nature Girl and Curse are not in the Pit)
Marvel's Voices Infinity Comic 1-4 (Iceman; can really go anywhere around here)
X-Men & Moon Girl 1 (barely an X-Men story, only Logan and Havok appear)
(Ghost Rider 5-6: Benjamin Percy writes, Logan appears, could go anywhere
(Elektra 100: Storm appears on one page in her "regent" outfit, could go anywhere)
Clobberin' Time 2 (Logan and Magneto appear)

PART 2: DESTINY OF X I

Immortal X-Men 1-2 (Magneto quits the Council, Hope joins it; Nightcrawler with goatee)
Immortal X-Men 3 (not long at all after 2, Storm is "off at another Arakii challenge"; it's "weeks" before Judgment Day)
[Black Panther 3-4: Storm in "regent" outfit]
Legion of X 1-2 (Hope is on the Council; Storm in "regent" outfit)
Legion of X 3 (the day after 2; Birdy is back)
Knights of X 1-5 (X-Men lineup is pre-'22 Gala, and Legionnaires are around)
X-Men Red 1-3 (Magneto has just quit the Council, Storm switches costumes, Xandra still on throne; Thunderbird wears his old costume in #2 but we have to assume that's because the new one was in the wash)
Marauders 1-4 (Xandra killed)
X-Men 11-12 (mutant immortality outed; ends the morning of the Gala)
Free Comic Book Day 2022: Judgment Day (3rd stories, the night before the Gala; the 1st story is evidently around the time of X-Men (2021) 5-7, since we're seeing Scott's resurrection)
X-Men Red 4 (no more than "2 days" after 3, and in the meantime Xandra has been killed and mutant immortality outed; appears to be the day of the Gala)
Marauders 5 (Xandra and then Kate resurrected, in time for the Gala; last page is a bit later)
X-Men: Hellfire Gala 1
X-Men: Hellfire Gala Confessionals Infinity Comic (right before and after the election)
X-Men Unlimited Infinity Comic 50-55 (during the Gala, just after the election)
Amazing Spider-Man 9 (happens the night of the Gala)
Immortal X-Men 4 (begins the morning of Gala day, ends the next night; Sinister kidnapped)
[Black Panther 5-8: Storm in new costume, has to be after X-Men Red 4, this is the earliest it can be]
Legion of X 4 (David already knows about Moira; AXE hasn't happened yet)
Legion of X 5 (except for the last few pages, which lead us right up to AXE:JD 1)
Ms. Marvel & Wolverine 1 (Storm in new costume, Scott is Cyclops)
[Fortnite X Marvel: Zero War 1-5: Storm in new costume, AXE hasn't happened yet]
X-Men Unlimited Infinity Comic 56-58 (Madrox and Strong Guy, placement-agnostic)
X-Men Unlimited Infinity Comic 59 ("Halloween," but that's a topical reference)
X-Men Unlimited Infinity Comic 60-61 (Hope and Exodus are still close)

PART 3: AXE

A.X.E.: Eve of Judgment 1
A.X.E.: Judgment Day 1 (probably the next day)
Immortal X-Men 5 (during Judgment Day 1)
X-Men Red 5 (during Judgment Day 1)
X-Men Red 6 (starts shortly thereafter, continues for a bit)
A.X.E.: Judgment Day 2
A.X.E.: Death to the Mutants 1 (during Judgment Day 2)
X-Men 13 (during Judgment Day 2)
A.X.E.: Judgment Day 3
A.X.E.: Death to the Mutants 2 (during Judgment Day 3)
Immortal X-Men 6 (during and after Judgment Day 3)
X-Force 30 (actually a bit earlier--and the first three pages are right after #29--but here for the sake of sense)
X-Force 31 (after Judgment Day 3)
Wolverine 24 (concurrent with X-Force 31)
Wolverine 25 (leads into...)
X-Force 32-33 (33 actually overlaps with the big attack in AXE:JD 4)
Marauders 6 (after Judgment Day 3)
X-Men 14 (after Judgment Day 3)
Avengers 60 (after Judgment Day 3)
Fantastic Four 47-48 (after Judgment Day 3)
Amazing Spider-Man 10 (after Judgment Day 3, last scene is partway through AXE:JD 4)
A.X.E.: Judgment Day 4
X-Men Red 7 (overlapping with Judgment Day 4)
Legion of X 6 (frame story begins after Judgment Day 3 and goes to after X-Men Red 7)
A.X.E.: Judgment Day 5
Immortal X-Men 7 (despite the editorial note, it's mostly during Judgment Day 5)
A.X.E.: Death to the Mutants 3 (this and Starfox run in parallel with the Avengers, X-Men and Eternals sequence)
A.X.E.: Starfox 1
A.X.E.: Avengers 1
A.X.E.: X-Men 1
A.X.E.: Eternals 1
A.X.E.: Judgment Day 6
A.X.E.: Judgment Day Omega

PART 4: BEFORE KURT GROWS HORNS

Marvel's Voices: Pride (2022) #1 (8th story) ("weeks" before New Mutants 31)
Marauders 7-10 (shortly after AXE) - Escapade is on Krakoa in 10
X-Men Red 8-10 (shortly after AXE)
Scarlet Witch 2, 2nd story (Storm, soon after AXE)
New Mutants 25-28 (post-AXE, because this is where Magik gets her new look, and she passes through Limbo during AXE)
X-Terminators 1-5 ("Knights" are a team, Magik in new armor; Sinister and Kurt on the Council)
Wolverine 26, 27 (-FBs) and 27 (1-3) (Logan killed and resurrected)
X-Men Unlimited Infinity Comic 62-67 ("Christmas eve"--let's call that a topical reference--after AXE, mostly a dream sequence)
X-Men Unlimited Infinity Comic 68-73 (more X-Men Green, starting with a flashback to shortly after #49; Sinister and Hope are both on the Council, Nightcrawler doesn't have a beard but that has to be an art error)
X-Men Unlimited Infinity Comic 74 ("Valentine's Day," but can just be a topical reference; definitely after X-Terminators, though)
X-Men Unlimited Infinity Comic 75-79 (Marrow, Feral, Artie, Leech, Chamber)
Note: Immortal X-Men 8 takes place entirely in the past

PART 5: HORNS ON KURT, SINS OF SINISTER

X-Men Unlimited Infinity Comic 80-85 (Jubilee, bearded/horned Nightcrawler, etc.)
Marauders 11-12 (Nightcrawler has horns)
Legion of X 7 (pages 1-15) (Nightcrawler has horns; Sinister shoots him)
Immortal X-Men 9-10 (Nightcrawler has horns)
Sins of Sinister 1 ("year zero" scene)
Legion of X 7 (pages 16-20)
Legion of X 8-10 (Nightcrawler has mutated further)
Sins of Sinister 1 (the rest)
Storm & the Brotherhood of Mutants 1
Nightcrawlers 1
Immoral X-Men 1
Nightcrawlers 2
Immoral X-Men 2
Storm & the Brotherhood of Mutants 2
Immoral X-Men 3
Storm & the Brotherhood of Mutants 3
Nightcrawlers 3
Sins of Sinister: Dominion 1

TIMELINE RESETS, midway through SoS: Dominion 1, to the beginning of Immortal X-Men 10. In the new timeline:
(last scenes of SoS: Dominion 1)
Immortal X-Men 11 (except for last two pages)
Events *very much* like those of Legion of X 7 (pages 15-20) and Legion of X 8-10 happen here (with some differences; no Vox Ignis, Xavier recognizes Mother Righteous, etc.)
X-Men: Before the Fall - Sons of X 1
X-Men Red 11
Immortal X-Men 11 (last two pages)

PART 6: AFTER SOS

X-Men Annual 1 (after AXE; Magik in new armor)
X-Men 15-17 (Magik in new armor)
X-Men 18 (1-18) (X-Terminators are together & think of the name; Beast with one eye)
Wolverine 27 (4-20, present-day bits), 28, 29 ("weeks" and then "days" have passed since the bulk of 26; Deadpool still in X-Force; Beast builds skull HQ)
X-Force 34-38 (Beast has skull HQ, Deadpool still in X-Force)
Wolverine 29 (last scene), 30, 31
Wolverine 32 (neither Sinister nor Kurt on the Council)
X-Force 39 (concurrent with Wolverine 32; neither Sinister nor Kurt on the Council)
New Mutants 29 (Daken/Scout/Warpath one-off)
New Mutants 30 (Magik in new armor, Deadpool kicked off Krakoa... apparently temporarily)
Deadpool 1-6 (Deadpool counts as an X-book now, it seems)
Free Comic Book Day 2022: Spider-Man/Venom (first story, some time after NM 25-28 because of Madelyne)
New Mutants 31-33 (Escapade has been on Krakoa for a few weeks)
Love Unlimited: Karma In Love Infinity Comic #31-36 (we finally see Tran; Sam, Dani and Kate are all around, but given that, can be anywhere around here)

then DARK WEB, which is specifically circa Dec. 13 in a way that probably can't be a topical reference, inc. Dark Web: X-Men 1-3

and now we get into tentative placements:

Marvel's Voices Infinity Comic 44-49 (Negasonic Teenage Warhead, Deadpool, Emma Frost, etc.)
Captain America: Sentinel of Liberty 8 (Emma Frost and Lourdes appear, could be anywhere after the 2022 Gala)
Mighty Marvel Holiday Special: Iceman's New Year's Resolution Infinity Comic #1 (here because it has to be New Year's Eve, and this time Christian is alive and Bobby's not busy terraforming Mars...)
Captain Marvel 43-48 (Scott is Cyclops; Rogue & Gambit on Earth, and then in space with Young Laura, Polaris, Kwannon, Armor; more or less simultaneous with X-Men 19-21)
X-Men 18 (19-20), 19-21 (Cyclops appears to be here after the beginning of Captain Marvel 43; Talon, Forge, Magik present)
Betsy Braddock: Captain Britain 1-3 (it's "months" after Knights of X)
Rogue & Gambit 1-2 (definitely after X-Men Red 10; Lady Deathstrike and Reuben Brousseau both appear)
Invincible Iron Man 4-5 (Feilong, Emma, Armor, Sunfire appear)
Scarlet Witch 3 (with Polaris)
Love Unlimited: Gwenpool Infinity Comic #43-48 (Wither and Elixir appear)
X-Men: Unforgiven 1 (Jubilee, Rogue, Jean, Logan appear; the Treehouse is a thing)
New Mutants: Lethal Legion 1-2
Bishop: War College 1-3 (at some point after Marauders 7-10)
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Keep in mind that Beast gets a clone body with two eyes at the end of Wolverine 30. So any comics where Beast appears missing an eye (such as X-Men 18) have to take place before Wolverine 30.
So we're assuming that Beast killed Wolverine and resurrected him as his slave AFTER Immortal X-Men 11, when the Cuckoos were supposed to be monitoring the resurrections and everyone was worried about the resurrectees being compromised? That's awkward.
It also means that Hope, Xavier, Emma and Exodus were thrown into the Pit before Sabretooth's influence was purged but I guess that's what Xavier meant about the Pit being unpleasant.
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Oh, excellent point on Beast's appearance in X-Men 18.

The part of Wolverine 27 where Logan is resurrected as Beast's slave can easily be moved before Judgment Day, too! I'll fix both of those. Thank you!

Also, I don't know that the Council is aware that Sabretooth (and the rest of the Exiles crew) aren't still in there! They know that the X-Men Green team got out, per Infinity Comic 68-73, though.
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This week's ROGUE & GAMBIT #3 is, per an info page, "five months" after X6 16, which... fine. It does, however, have a flashback to "many years ago" that I'm having a tough time placing: it's sometime after X2 33 (Gambit and Rogue return to the dock in New Orleans where they were at the end of that issue), at a time when Rogue, Gambit and Logan are all in the mansion, and Rogue is able to leave the mansion through a "giant hole in the ceiling" of the Danger Room (which is in a sub-basement as of X2 1), and also Gambit and Rogue are able to kiss without putting him into a coma, it just "hurts." Any idea when that could be?

X-MEN RED 11 does seem to fit before the last two pages of Immortal X-Men 11, as that issue noted.

WOLVERINE 33 continues the previous issue's "Weapons of X" storyline, and also has a backup story where Logan teams up with Sister Dagger at some point after X-Force 38.

CAPTAIN MARVEL 49, as expected, follows on from X-Men 21. (EDITED TO ADD: Rogue refers to herself as having "the powers of Captain Marvel" in R&G 3, and people have been jumping on that because she's more recently had Wonder Man powers instead, but I'm willing to buy that she's also got Captain Marvel powers after this one.)

In X-MEN UNLIMITED INFINITY COMIC 86, the start of a new storyline, it's "weeks" since 68-73, and Nightcrawler is still on the Council (seen only in a long shot but apparently clean-shaven; gotta be an art error). No sign of Sinister, thankfully.

FREE COMIC BOOK DAY 2023: AVENGERS/X-MEN 1 (per the indicia; the front cover calls it UNCANNY AVENGERS...) has two X-Men-related stories (plus a short preview of G.O.D.S.), both of which take place the day of this year's Hellfire Gala.
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Maybe the flashback is supposed to take place during Gambit (vol. 3) 16. They're temporarily able to kiss in that story.
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Some observations and suggestions..

X-Men 8 (not super long after 5-7). Seems like it should be as soon as possible after X-Men 7-8. The X-Men are visited by civilians offering condolences on hearing of his death, and Forge sends Scott a memo on the Krakoan Battle Suit.

X-Force 25-26. Seems to be before Marauders 27 for the Cuckoos. Also published before Marauders 27.

Marauders Annual 1 (new crew is lined up, Emma gives Kate the box). Emma & Shaw are still running Hellfire Trading. The old Marauder is a wreck after the battle with the Helicarriers. Looks like it should go pretty well straight after Marauders 27. Both issues published the same month.

X-Force Annual 1 (Emma is no longer running Hellfire but there's an active Marauders crew; Beast with one eye; Quentin Quire still around)
X-Force 27-29 (a bit of time has gone by since 25-26, but Magneto is still on the Council, and X Lives/Deaths is pretty recent; Quentin Quire goes away). This seems like it should go as soon as possible after X - Lives/Deaths. The event is reported to a full meeting of the Quiet Council, and it seems to be more immediately after the event than Wolverine 20-23.

S.W.O.R.D. 9-11 (the "debacle with Phobos" could be either Way of X 5 or X-Men 6). This should be after Reckoning War, where the SWORD station is still active. That’s after Devil’s Reign as per She-Hulk 11, which takes place between Devil’s Reign and Reckoning War, due to Luke Cage being Mayor of NY, and Sue Richards being in her pre-Reckoning War costume.

Also, X-Force: Killshot Anniversary Special 1 looks like it could go in here, during the gap in Inferno 4.

I would offer the following proposal..

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X-Men 4 (sometime relatively soon after Dr. Strange's death; Feilong en route to Mars)
Marauders 26 (Ben Urich is chasing the story but hasn't yet broken it)
X-Men 5-7 / FCBD 2022: Avengers/X-Men (1st story) (Scott Summers becomes Captain Krakoa; Ben Urich dissuaded; there are still two empty seats on the Council; Feilong sets up Martian outpost, having spent about 19 days traveling since #3)
X-Men 8 [Seems like it should be as soon as possible after 7-8. The X-Men are visited by civilians offering condolences on hearing of his death, and Forge sends Scott a memo on the Krakoan Battle Suit]

INFERNO TO DESTINY

Inferno 1-3 / X-Force 24 (4 weeks since Destiny's resurrection immediately after the Gala; Destiny and Colossus join Council; Beast loses an eye; Magik being snarky since everyone already knows Kwannon's a Great Captain)
Inferno 4 (1 - 36)
X Deaths of Wolverine 1 (1 - 7)
X-Force: Killshot Anniversary Special 1
Inferno 4 (37 - 45)
X-Force 25-26 [Seems to be before Marauders 27 for the Cuckoos]

Marauders 27 (Emma plans to leave Hellfire; Feilong's Martian outpost is open)
Marauders Annual 1 [Emma & Shaw are still running Hellfire Trading. The old Marauder is a wreck after the battle with the Helicarriers in Marauders 27]
X-Force 25-26
X Lives of Wolverine 1 (8 - 32)
(present-day bits of The Life of Wolverine Infinity Comic 1-10 take place during X Lives #1)
the rest of X Lives/X Deaths
X-Force Annual 1 (Emma is no longer running Hellfire but there's an active Marauders crew; Beast with one eye; Quentin Quire still around)
X-Force 27-29 (a bit of time has gone by since 25-26, but Magneto is still on the Council, and X Lives/Deaths is pretty recent; Quentin Quire goes away) [This seems like it should go as soon as possible after X - Lives/Deaths]

Wolverine 20-23 (very shortly after X Deaths 5, except for last two pages of 23, which are just before X-Force 30)
X-Men Unlimited Infinity Comic 22-25 ("a few weeks" after "Latitude")
X-Men 8 (not super long after 5-7)
Marauders Annual 1 (new crew is lined up, Emma gives Kate the box)
X-Force Annual 1 (Emma is no longer running Hellfire but there's an active Marauders crew; Beast with one eye; Quentin Quire still around)
X-Force 27-29 (a bit of time has gone by since 25-26, but Magneto is still on the Council, and X Lives/Deaths is pretty recent; Quentin Quire goes away)[/strike]
X-Men Unlimited Infinity Comic 26 (this one takes place on "St. Patrick's Day," but it's here for the sake of numbering; really, it's fine just about any time in the Krakoan era)
X-Men Unlimited Infinity Comic 28
X-Men Unlimited Infinity Comic 29-33 (note: 27 and 34 are not listed here because they continue directly from 21)
S.W.O.R.D. 9-11 (the "debacle with Phobos" could be either Way of X 5 or X-Men 6)
Devil's Reign: X-Men 1-3 (Scott is Captain Krakoa)
S.W.O.R.D. 9-11 [After Reckoning War, where the SWORD station is still active. That’s after Devil’s Reign as per She-Hulk 11, which takes place between Devil’s Reign and Reckoning War]
Sabretooth 1-5 (starts much earlier, ends sometime after X Lives/Deaths; Birdy not yet resurrected)
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