I don't think Kate Bishop's app in OML2 #2-4 should be between ANHAWK2 #1 and #2. My reasoning is that in OML2 #3 she says she's house-sitting Clint Barton's apartment and dog, but at the end of ANHAWK2 #1 she quits their team because of what they did in vol 1, in #2 she's refusing to answer his calls, and they only get back together at the end of #3. So it doesn't seem likely that she'd agree to house-sit for him in that period.
Also OML2 #1 opens with Old Man Logan waking confused in the post-Secret Wars present after the multiverse was rebuilt at the end of that event. So it makes sense that his series takes place in the very earliest days of the new multiverse. Ie I'd suggest moving it to before ANHAWK2 #1. That issue claims to be set months after "the world almost ended" (and the previous series was before that). So there's plenty of time where the Hawkeyes were still a duo to fit OML2 in.
In OML2 #1 Kate says Clint's away on a mission. In the All-New All-Different multiverse Clint has joined the New Avengers. Kate doesn't *say* the mission is with them but it probably is. ANHAWK2 #1 mentions that he's rejoined the Avengers, and we have it after NA4 #1-2. But he's in that team as an Agent of SHIELD so his current mission could be for that Agency instead, possibly even before joining the New Avengers.
Thus:-
HAWKEYE II/KATE BISHOP
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ANHAWK 4
ANHAWK 5
ANHAWK2 1 **** moved from here
OML2 2
OML2 3
OML2 4
ANHAWK2 1 **** moved to here
ANHAWK2 2
ANHAWK2 3
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Title:- Kate Bishop in OML2
Moderators: Col_Fury, michel, Arthur, Somebody, StrayLamb
Re: Title:- Kate Bishop in OML2
Moving OML2 #2-4 might affect other chars.
Col_Fury organised the overall timeline for this era as part of his Civil War onwards chronologies. I presume these chronologies were then used to plot the individual char chronologies, so I should be able to use the SECRET WARS to CIVIL WAR II chronology as a reasonable guide to where things fit.
There aren't many chars other than Kate who could be affected.
Old Man Logan is only in his own series at this time.
Amadeus Cho/Hulk is in #2. But his previous apps are FBs that happen before even OML2 #1. And his next apps are TAH #1-4 which are of course later than the *current* position of OML2 #2 before I moved it earlier.
Captain America, or aged Commander Rogers as he was at the time, is in #3-4 and the busy guy ought to be affected.
His schedule from the start of the new multiverse is:-
A:ROU
CASW 2 (2 - 4:5)-FB
ASOFF:APHA (13&14:5)-FB
CASW 2 (15:4 - 17:4)-FB
BK4 2-FB
BK4 3-FB
A6 0/5
SQS4 1
UA@2 1-FB
HTD5 7
DP6 7/3
DP6 33-FB
DP6 3
DP6 4
DP6 5
VIS3 3-BTS
UA3 1
UA3 2
UA3 4
OML2 3
OML2 4
UX4 6/2
SQS4 2
SQS4 3
OML2 #2-4 can't possibly precede OML2 #1 which according the master chronology is just after ANADA #1, which in Cap's terms is just after SQS4 #1. So this limits our Cap view to:-
SQS4 1
UA@2 1-FB
HTD5 7
DP6 7/3
DP6 33-FB
DP6 3
DP6 4
DP6 5
VIS3 3-BTS
UA3 1
UA3 2
UA3 4
OML2 3
OML2 4
UX4 6/2
There are no real clues to help us position OML2 #3-4. Steve Rogers is an old man. Wolverine is dead and encased in adamantium. Cap has a zero-point energy shield because he's handed his real shield to Sam Wilson. But all these have been true since before Secret Wars.
Kate says she's apartment/dog-sitting while Clint Barton is away on a mission. But his only apps since Secret Wars have been DP6 #2, NA4 #1-2 and ANHAWK2 #1. The DP6 New York cameo doesn't count as going away. Kate's with him in ANHAWK2 #1. But NA4 #1-2 is a possibility because SHIELD fly him to Avengers (Idea Mechanics) Island off the coast of California.
If we choose that position for OML2 #2-4 then for Cap this only means moving his 2 issues to before UA3 #1,2,4 and after VIS3 #3-BTS.
CAPTAIN AMERICA/STEVE ROGERS
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DP6 5
VIS3 3-BTS
OML2 3 **** moved to here
OML2 4 **** moved to here
UA3 1
UA3 2
UA3 4
OML2 3 **** moved from here
OML2 4 **** moved from here
UX4 6/2
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The only other char who might need a change is Lucky the Pizza Dog. But he *seems* OK because his surrounding apps are only:-
ANHAWK 4
ANHAWK 5
ANHAWK2
OML2 3
ANHAWK2 2
CWII:CS 3
and the 1st ANHAWK series was pre-Secret Wars.
However scrutiny (with an intense scrute) reveals that he's also in ANHAWK2 #1, which because of the move must be inserted after OML2 2-3. And while I'm at it he's also in #3.
LUCKY/"ARROW"/"PIZZA DOG"
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ANHAWK 5
ANHAWK2
OML2 3
ANHAWK2 1 **** added
ANHAWK2 2
ANHAWK2 3 **** added
CWII:CS 3
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While I was on the case I noticed another embellishment needed for Clint Barton's
NA4 2
ANHAWK2 1
NA4 3
NA4 4
NA4 5
NA4 6
ANHAWK2 2
ANHAWK2 3
ANHAWK2 #2's page 7 includes 3 panels showing Hawkeye on missions. The 1st has him with some other New Avengers members fighting Mole Man and his Moloids. The 3rd has him solo vs Batroc The Leaper. Both of these are untold tales. The 2nd mission (panel 3) shows him with other NAv teammates fighting a tentacled monster which is pretty clearly Moridun from NA4 #3-6. Thus this panel can be ignored as having no new content. But ANHAWK2 #2 should be split in 2 with NA4 #3-6 in the middle.
HAWKEYE/CLINTON FRANCIS BARTON
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NA4 2
ANHAWK2 1
ANHAWK2 2 (1-7:2)
NA4 3
NA4 4
NA4 5
NA4 6
ANHAWK2 2 (7:4-20)
ANHAWK2 3
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Col_Fury organised the overall timeline for this era as part of his Civil War onwards chronologies. I presume these chronologies were then used to plot the individual char chronologies, so I should be able to use the SECRET WARS to CIVIL WAR II chronology as a reasonable guide to where things fit.
There aren't many chars other than Kate who could be affected.
Old Man Logan is only in his own series at this time.
Amadeus Cho/Hulk is in #2. But his previous apps are FBs that happen before even OML2 #1. And his next apps are TAH #1-4 which are of course later than the *current* position of OML2 #2 before I moved it earlier.
Captain America, or aged Commander Rogers as he was at the time, is in #3-4 and the busy guy ought to be affected.
His schedule from the start of the new multiverse is:-
A:ROU
CASW 2 (2 - 4:5)-FB
ASOFF:APHA (13&14:5)-FB
CASW 2 (15:4 - 17:4)-FB
BK4 2-FB
BK4 3-FB
A6 0/5
SQS4 1
UA@2 1-FB
HTD5 7
DP6 7/3
DP6 33-FB
DP6 3
DP6 4
DP6 5
VIS3 3-BTS
UA3 1
UA3 2
UA3 4
OML2 3
OML2 4
UX4 6/2
SQS4 2
SQS4 3
OML2 #2-4 can't possibly precede OML2 #1 which according the master chronology is just after ANADA #1, which in Cap's terms is just after SQS4 #1. So this limits our Cap view to:-
SQS4 1
UA@2 1-FB
HTD5 7
DP6 7/3
DP6 33-FB
DP6 3
DP6 4
DP6 5
VIS3 3-BTS
UA3 1
UA3 2
UA3 4
OML2 3
OML2 4
UX4 6/2
There are no real clues to help us position OML2 #3-4. Steve Rogers is an old man. Wolverine is dead and encased in adamantium. Cap has a zero-point energy shield because he's handed his real shield to Sam Wilson. But all these have been true since before Secret Wars.
Kate says she's apartment/dog-sitting while Clint Barton is away on a mission. But his only apps since Secret Wars have been DP6 #2, NA4 #1-2 and ANHAWK2 #1. The DP6 New York cameo doesn't count as going away. Kate's with him in ANHAWK2 #1. But NA4 #1-2 is a possibility because SHIELD fly him to Avengers (Idea Mechanics) Island off the coast of California.
If we choose that position for OML2 #2-4 then for Cap this only means moving his 2 issues to before UA3 #1,2,4 and after VIS3 #3-BTS.
CAPTAIN AMERICA/STEVE ROGERS
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DP6 5
VIS3 3-BTS
OML2 3 **** moved to here
OML2 4 **** moved to here
UA3 1
UA3 2
UA3 4
OML2 3 **** moved from here
OML2 4 **** moved from here
UX4 6/2
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The only other char who might need a change is Lucky the Pizza Dog. But he *seems* OK because his surrounding apps are only:-
ANHAWK 4
ANHAWK 5
ANHAWK2
OML2 3
ANHAWK2 2
CWII:CS 3
and the 1st ANHAWK series was pre-Secret Wars.
However scrutiny (with an intense scrute) reveals that he's also in ANHAWK2 #1, which because of the move must be inserted after OML2 2-3. And while I'm at it he's also in #3.
LUCKY/"ARROW"/"PIZZA DOG"
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ANHAWK 5
ANHAWK2
OML2 3
ANHAWK2 1 **** added
ANHAWK2 2
ANHAWK2 3 **** added
CWII:CS 3
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While I was on the case I noticed another embellishment needed for Clint Barton's
NA4 2
ANHAWK2 1
NA4 3
NA4 4
NA4 5
NA4 6
ANHAWK2 2
ANHAWK2 3
ANHAWK2 #2's page 7 includes 3 panels showing Hawkeye on missions. The 1st has him with some other New Avengers members fighting Mole Man and his Moloids. The 3rd has him solo vs Batroc The Leaper. Both of these are untold tales. The 2nd mission (panel 3) shows him with other NAv teammates fighting a tentacled monster which is pretty clearly Moridun from NA4 #3-6. Thus this panel can be ignored as having no new content. But ANHAWK2 #2 should be split in 2 with NA4 #3-6 in the middle.
HAWKEYE/CLINTON FRANCIS BARTON
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NA4 2
ANHAWK2 1
ANHAWK2 2 (1-7:2)
NA4 3
NA4 4
NA4 5
NA4 6
ANHAWK2 2 (7:4-20)
ANHAWK2 3
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Re: Title:- Kate Bishop in OML2
The change to Clint Barton's chronology has implications for other members of New Avengers.
Hulking and Squirrel Girl (and Tippy-Toe) are in the 1st of Hawkeye's 1-panel missions in ANHAWK2 2 (7:1). As such their apps have to be moved from after NA4 3-6 (in the 2nd mission panel) to before it.
Power Man and White Tiger are shown in the 2nd mission panel (7:3) which corresponds to somewhere in NA4 3-6. (In particular it's the battle against Moridun in the 2nd half of #4. We have to ignore the fact that in NA4 4 they're in space suits and in ANHAWK2 2 they aren't.) For Hawkeye's chronology I recommended/decided to miss that panel out of ANHAWK2 2 and replace it with NA4 3-6. By the same logic Power Man and White Tiger should be deleted from ANHAWK2 2 as their app is only a generalised reference to NA4 4. Moridun isn't currently listed as in ANHAWK2 2, and he should continue to not be.
The apps of Mole Man and Batroc in the 1st and 3rd mission panels don't need changing as their previous and next apps are far away.
Changes:-
HULKLING/DORREK VIII/"THEODORE RUFUS TEDDY ALTMAN"
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NA4 1
NA4 2
ANHAWK2 2 moved to here
NA4 3
NA4 4
NA4 5
NA4 6
ANHAWK2 2 moved from here
NA4 8
SW6 1
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SQUIRREL GIRL/DOREEN ALLENE GREEN
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NA4 1
NA4 2
USQG2 5-FB
USQG2 1
ANHAWK2 2 moved to here
NA4 3
NA4 4
NA4 5
NA4 6
ANHAWK2 2 moved from here
USQG2 2
USQG2 3
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I chose the particular position to move ANHAWK2 2 to because the SECRET WARS to CIVIL WAR II chronology has USQG2 1 before ANHAWK2 1&2.
TIPPY-TOE
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NA4 1
NA4 2
USQG2 1 (1 - 10:3)
USQG2 1-FB
USQG2 1 (10:4 - 20)
ANHAWK2 2 moved to here
NA4 3
NA4 4
NA4 5
NA4 6
ANHAWK2 2 moved from here
USQG2 2
USQG2 3
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POWER MAN IV/VICTOR HERNAN ALVAREZ
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NA4 1
NA4 2
NA4 3
NA4 4
NA4 5
NA4 6
ANHAWK2 2 deleted
NA4 7
NA4 8 (2&3 - 9)
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WHITE TIGER V/AVA AYALA
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NA4 1
NA4 2
NA4 3
NA4 4
NA4 5
NA4 6
ANHAWK2 2 deleted
NA4 7
NA4 8 (2&3 - 9)
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Hulking and Squirrel Girl (and Tippy-Toe) are in the 1st of Hawkeye's 1-panel missions in ANHAWK2 2 (7:1). As such their apps have to be moved from after NA4 3-6 (in the 2nd mission panel) to before it.
Power Man and White Tiger are shown in the 2nd mission panel (7:3) which corresponds to somewhere in NA4 3-6. (In particular it's the battle against Moridun in the 2nd half of #4. We have to ignore the fact that in NA4 4 they're in space suits and in ANHAWK2 2 they aren't.) For Hawkeye's chronology I recommended/decided to miss that panel out of ANHAWK2 2 and replace it with NA4 3-6. By the same logic Power Man and White Tiger should be deleted from ANHAWK2 2 as their app is only a generalised reference to NA4 4. Moridun isn't currently listed as in ANHAWK2 2, and he should continue to not be.
The apps of Mole Man and Batroc in the 1st and 3rd mission panels don't need changing as their previous and next apps are far away.
Changes:-
HULKLING/DORREK VIII/"THEODORE RUFUS TEDDY ALTMAN"
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NA4 1
NA4 2
ANHAWK2 2 moved to here
NA4 3
NA4 4
NA4 5
NA4 6
ANHAWK2 2 moved from here
NA4 8
SW6 1
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SQUIRREL GIRL/DOREEN ALLENE GREEN
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NA4 1
NA4 2
USQG2 5-FB
USQG2 1
ANHAWK2 2 moved to here
NA4 3
NA4 4
NA4 5
NA4 6
ANHAWK2 2 moved from here
USQG2 2
USQG2 3
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I chose the particular position to move ANHAWK2 2 to because the SECRET WARS to CIVIL WAR II chronology has USQG2 1 before ANHAWK2 1&2.
TIPPY-TOE
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NA4 1
NA4 2
USQG2 1 (1 - 10:3)
USQG2 1-FB
USQG2 1 (10:4 - 20)
ANHAWK2 2 moved to here
NA4 3
NA4 4
NA4 5
NA4 6
ANHAWK2 2 moved from here
USQG2 2
USQG2 3
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POWER MAN IV/VICTOR HERNAN ALVAREZ
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NA4 1
NA4 2
NA4 3
NA4 4
NA4 5
NA4 6
ANHAWK2 2 deleted
NA4 7
NA4 8 (2&3 - 9)
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WHITE TIGER V/AVA AYALA
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NA4 1
NA4 2
NA4 3
NA4 4
NA4 5
NA4 6
ANHAWK2 2 deleted
NA4 7
NA4 8 (2&3 - 9)
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