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Good eye!

CM8 10 (20-30)
IIM3 1
CHMPS2 1 (2:4-5)-FB
CA:SAMW 14-16
MOSAIC 7 (1-3)
ULTS² 1 & 2-FB
DD5 11-14 (“a few weeks” since #10) (before IvX)
CHMPS2 1-4
OML2 14-15 (before IvX)
DD5 15-19 & 20 (1-19)
P11 1-13 (lasts over a month, this is when it ends; no appearances for Frank elsewhere since CWII:CS)
IvX
INHSPRIME (1-21)
UX4 19
TAH 13-14
BULL 1-5 (before CWII:OATH)
FCDB2016:CA /2 (1-4:3) (a few weeks before ASM4 19)
ASM4 19/2 (1-7:1)
FCBD2016:CA /2 (4:4)
ASM4 19/2 (7:3)
FCBD2016:CA /2 (5:1)
ASM4 19/2 (7:4)
FCBD2016:CA /2 (5:2-5:4)
ASM4 19/2 (8:2)
FCBD2016:CA /2 (5:5)
ASM4 19/2 (8:3-8:5)
FCBD2016:CA /2 (6-9)
CA:SR 7
VLOKI 1 (1-9) [October 19]
ANX2 19
DS@2 1 (at least “2 weeks” after DS4 11) [October 20?]
X:B 2-FB
XPRIME (1-28)
MOSAIC 7 (11-20) & 8
DS/P:MB 1-4
CA:SR 8
IIM3 2
EL4 1-5
SLORD2 1 (“a rough few weeks” since GOTG arrived on Earth) (X-Mansion still in Limbo)
SLORD2 2 (1-3) (old Star-Lord suit) (newspaper says September 22, but must be October 22)
GOTG4 14
INFIM 1 (1-12)
GOTG4 15 (1-17)
INFIM 1 (13-16:3)
GOTG4 15 (18-19:2)
GOTG4 15 (19:3-20) ~ INFIM 1 (16:4-17)
INFIM 1 (18-21)
INFIM 2-5 (Hill around)
MG&DDINO 12 (18-20) & 13-14
VLOKI 1 (10-20) [October 22-26]
CA:SR 9-10 (shortly before CWII:OATH)
CWII:OATH-FB-FB (“days” before CWII:OATH)
DS4 12-16 [October 24-26?]
PM&IF3 14-15 (19 days after #13) [October 26?]
VLOKI 2 [October 26-27]
JJ 1-6 (Jessica gets out of prison)
FCBD2017:ANGOTG /2
DEF5 1-2, 3 (1-6)
MCM 0 (1-18) (“weeks” after CWII 8 (1-34))
CWII:OATH-FB (same day as CWII:OATH)
CWII:OATH
JJ 7-11, 12 (1-8) (the day after CWII:OATH)
SCRW2 15
SW6 13-16
A6 1-6
CA:SAMW 17-18
DS4 17-19
MONSTERS UNLEASHED! (new Star-Lord suit, not yet fully bearded) (Gamora free) (Strange blue cloak)
IIM3 3-6 (Hill no longer around, Defenders a thing, Riri takes “Ironheart” name)
VLOKI 3 [October 29]
MCM 0 (19-20), 1-4 (after CWII:OATH, before CA:SR 11-14)
NO7 1-3
MG&DDINO 15 & 16 (1-17) [Hallowen]
AYOM/:UNC [Halloween]
MT2 8 (1) [October 30 – November 3]
NO7 4-6 & 7 (1-16) (before GOTG4 17)
MG&DDINO 16 (18-20) & 17 (“a few days later,” after IvX)
GOTG4 16-17 (Gamora imprisoned)
VLOKI 4 (1-7) [November 3]
SLORD2 2 (4-17) (new Star-Lord suit, fully bearded) (two weeks later, so November 5)
MT2 8 (2) [November 4 – November 7]
MT2 8 (3-20), 9-12 [November 8]
VLOKI 4 (8-20) [November 7-8]
MSM4 13 [November 7-9]
SLORD2 2 (18-20) (three days later, so November 8)
NO7 7 (17-20) (“1 week” after #7 (1-16))
SLAP2 1-6
ASM4 16-18
ASM4 20-FB (spans a few days)
ASM4 19
CA:SR 11-14 (about a week after #10) (GOTG still on Earth)
SOLO2 1-5
BP6 9-11
UWASP 1-7, 8 (1-19) (MG&DDINO 13 “recent”)
MSM4 14-17 (lasts several days)
CLONE CONSPIRACY
PROWL2 6
SILK2 18
CLNCON:O /2
K2 1
MG&DDINO 18
BP:WWKND 6
CA:SAMW 19-20 & 21-FB
DD5 20 (20) & DD5 21 (1-18)
CLNCON:O /3 (a few days later)
ASM4 25-28 (the following day or three)
SW6 17
K2 2-4
AYOM/:UNC /2 [Thanksgiving]
SLORD2 3-5 (three weeks later, lasts two days, so November 29-30)
BP6 12 (1-18)
RR3 1-5
SLORD2 6 (about a week later, so December 5-ish)
ANGOTG 10-FB
DD5 21 (19-20), 22 (1-17)
MT2 13-14
GOTG4 18-19 (GOTG leave Earth)
ANGOTG 3
ANW 13-18
CHMPS2 5
TAH 15-18
THANOS2 1 (1-14) (Thanos returns to Black Quadrant)
UNWT 1-4, 5 (1-19) (before MT2 15-19, Thanos in Black Quadrant)
X:B 1 (“2 months” after X:B 2-FB)
K2 5
SILK2 19
DD5 22 (18-20) (“two weeks” later) [December 20?]
ULTS² 2-5 & 6 (1-18) (holiday season)
AYOM/ /11 [shortly before Christmas]
PM&IF@ 1 [Christmas]
DP6 21-24 [Christmas]
GOTG:DO
GOTG:ME 1-5
AYOM/ /12 [New Year's Eve]
OML2 16-18, 19-FB
ANGOTG 7-FB (Drax becomes a pacifist)
CHMPS2 6-7 (shortly after the New Year)
ULTS² 6 (19-20) (shortly before college semester?)
UWASP 8 (20) (“two months” after #8 (1-19))
ANGOTG 9 (Groot gets tiny)
OML2 19-24 (“9 days” since OML2 19-FB)
EXX 20
XPRIME (29-30)
X:G 1-3 (before MT2 15-19)
MT2 15-19 (before USQG2 16)
X:B 2-3
ANGOTG 11
U.S.A 1-3
INHSPRIME (22-30)
ROYALS 1
PATSYWAHCAT 11-FB [late-January]
USQG2 16 [January?]
ANW 19-21
OCCA 1-2
USQG2 17-20 (“weeks” after ULTS² 6?)
PATSYWAHCAT 11-14
DP6 26 [Valentine’s]
PATSYWAHCAT 15-16 [mid-February]
MSM4 18
THANOS2 1 (15-20), 2-6
H4 1-5, 6 (1-18)
CHMPS2 8
H4 6 (19-20) (“a week later”)
SLORD@ 1
PATSYWAHCAT 17
A6 7-8
WX3 1-3 \ TAH 19 \ WX3 4 \ WMD:A \ TAH 20 \ WX3 5 \ TAH 21 \ WX3 6 \ TAH 22
DS4 20
ANW 22-24 (“two weeks” after ANW 19-21, GOTG off-Earth, Groot small, Drax pacifist)
DD5 23 (1-18) (snowy, She-Hulk appears)
OCCA 3-4
X:B 4-5
INFIM 6-12 (Ironheart appears, Hill no longer around)
DD5 23 (19-20) & 24 (“two weeks later”) [early/mid March]
X:G 4-6
OCCA 5-7
H4 7-10
THANOS2 7-12 (“4 weeks” after THANOS2 6)
IIM3 7-10 (after INFIM 6-12)
DD5 25 (1-15) [March 20]
DP6 27-28 \ SM/DP 15 \ DP&MFM2 9 \ SM/DP 16 \ DP&MFM2 10 \ DP6 29
FOOL3 1-5
P11 14
UA3 18-23
CA:SR 15
CA:SAMW 21
CHMPS2 9
USQG2 21
P11 15
X:B 6
DD5 25 (16-20) [March 30]
TB3 10-12
DP6 30
SECRET EMPIRE


STILL TO DO:

AMERICA 1-???
BEN REILLY: SCARLET SPIDER 1-???
BLACK BOLT 1-???
CABLE v3 1-???
DEADPOOL: TOO SOON? 1-4?
DEADPOOL THE DUCK 1-5?
DEADPOOL vs. PUNISHER 1-5?
DOCTOR STRANGE & THE SORCERERS SUPREME 1-12?
EDGE OF VENOMVERSE 1-5?
FREE COMIC BOOK DAY 2017: SECRET EMPIRE (2nd story)
GENERATION X v2 1-???
GHOST RIDER v8 1-5
GREAT LAKES AVENGERS 1-7
GWENPOOL HOLIDAY SPECIAL
HAWKEYE v5 1-???
I AM GROOT 1-5?
ICEMAN v3 1-???
IRON FIST v5 1-???
JEAN GREY 1-???
LUKE CAGE 1-???
MAN-THING v5 1-5?
MONSTERS UNLEASHED! v3 1-???
NICK FURY 1-6?
PETER PARKER, THE SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN v2 1-???
ROCKET 1-6
ROYALS 2-???
SPIDER-MAN/DEADPOOL 4-???
SPIDER-MAN v2 11-???
SPIDER-MEN II 1-5?
UNBELIEVABLE GWENPOOL 7-???
VENOM v3 1-???
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FCBD2017:SECEMP /2 takes place at some point before PPSSM2 1, and happens over maybe 20 minutes. PPSSM2 1-5 happens after ASM4 28 (Jonah is no longer with the Fact Channel) and before SECEMP (SHIELD is still around). Also, Flash Thompson says this is after V 150 (the second story, as it turns out).

There looks to be a gap of time between PPSSM2 5-6; Spider-Man’s back in his classic suit in #6 (to be fair, this could be a one-off for the occasion) and the plot leads directly into PPSSM 297. PPSSM2 6 has Jonah interviewing Spider-Man which was supposed to be set up following PPSSM2 5, but maybe SECEMP delayed things? Meaning, PPSSM2 1-5 may be shortly before SECEMP starts.

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V 150/2 starts “weeks ago” and shows how the symbiote was separated from Flash Thompson, and leads pretty much right into V3 1. V3 1-6 & V 150 happen over a few days, maybe a week. Black Cat appears as a crime lord. Tombstone is -BTS. V 151 happens the day after V 150, and V 151-153 happens over a day or two. There’s a nice big break between V 153-154, so that’s likely where SECEMP goes. Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur appear in V 152-153.

I haven’t read Venomverse or Edge of Venomverse yet, but it LOOKS like it goes at least after V 153. Edge was published during SECEMP and Venomverse was published after. I’m very tempted to say the whole thing is after SECEMP without even looking at it.

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SGWEN2 9-12 deals with Spider-Gwen’s wonky powers. This isn’t mentioned at all when she appears in other books from what I’ve seen. SGWEN2 13 is on Halloween. SGWEN2 14 is on Thanksgiving and Spider-Woman (616) appears (same month as SW6 13, must be before that because Jessica and Roger aren’t dating yet here). SGWEN2 15 is around Christmas. I’m going to say that Earth-65’s calendar isn’t lined up with Earth-616’s.

SM2 12-14 and SGWEN2 16-18 are a crossover:

SM2 11 has Spider-Miles’ dad going back to work for SHIELD. Maria Hill is still with SHIELD, so this is before CWII:OATH. SM2 12-FB-FB mentions its shortly after CWII. SGWEN2 18 has Gwen talking about clones, so maybe this is after Clone Conspiracy? SGWEN2 18 and ASM4 25 were published the same month…

SM2 11 (Hill with SHIELD, Miles’ dad goes missing)
SM2 12-FB-FB (Hill with SHIELD, before CWII:OATH)
SGWEN2 16
SM2 13-FB
SGWEN2 17
SM2 14-FB-FB
SM2 14-FB (Champions already a thing)
SGWEN2 18 (1-18)
SM2 12-FB
SGWEN2 18 (19-20)
SM2 15 (1-17)
SM2 12-14
SM2 15 (18) (Diamondback appears, before DEF5 1)
SM2 15 (19-20) (Hill no longer with SHIELD, after CWII:OATH)
……
SM2 16 (Ironheart appears in fancy suit)
SM2 17 (1-12) (day after last issue)
DEF5 4 (1-4)-FB
SM2 17 (13-20)
DEF5 4 (6-10)-FB (Defenders already a thing)
SM2 18-19 (Goldballs goes missing)
……
SM2 20-FB (“that Hydra thing” mentioned; after SECEMP?)
SM2 20-21 (“two weeks after” SM2 20-FB) (SHIELD no longer around, after SECEMP)

Goldballs appears in SMENII 1-5 (at least in #1) (who went missing in SM2 19) and it’s also mentioned that SHIELD is no longer around (in #4). So, SMENII 1-5 is after SECEMP and since Goldballs appears, SM2 16 is after SECEMP as well.

SGWEN2 19 starts a story that lasts a while and no Earth-616 characters appear at least through #24, so I’m not going to bother with them right now. If someone else wants to figure out SGWEN2 19-??? feel free!
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Col_Fury wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:42 pm I haven’t read Venomverse or Edge of Venomverse yet, but it LOOKS like it goes at least after V 153. Edge was published during SECEMP and Venomverse was published after. I’m very tempted to say the whole thing is after SECEMP without even looking at it.
Edge of Venomverse is all-alternate-universe.
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Somebody wrote: Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:20 am
Col_Fury wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:42 pm I haven’t read Venomverse or Edge of Venomverse yet, but it LOOKS like it goes at least after V 153. Edge was published during SECEMP and Venomverse was published after. I’m very tempted to say the whole thing is after SECEMP without even looking at it.
Edge of Venomverse is all-alternate-universe.
As is Venomverse 1-5, except for the opening scenes of issue 1, and part of the closing scenes of issue 5, both of which involve Eddie Brock/Venom. The stories are important, however, as they lead directly into the X-Men Blue Annual, X-Men Blue 21-28, Venom 162-163, and Venomized 1-5. All of this is post-Secret Empire.
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Thanks folks!

GR8 1-5 guest stars Wolverine (same as ANW 14-18), Teen Hulk (TAH 12-17) and Silk (SILK2 14-18). It all happens over a few days. Stories end in ANW 18, TAH 18 and SILK2 18. Published after the Ghost Rider X-Mas Special Infinite Comic (printed as AYOM/ /11), and should probably go after that.

ROCKET 1-6 happens after the Guardians leave Earth. Star-Lord says in #6 that it’s been a week since some unseen adventure. Groot is mentioned but nothing is said about if he’s tiny or not. Probably before that happens.

IGROOT 1-5 has Groot already tiny and Drax already a pacifist.

DS&SSS 1-12 is one big story that happens at some point after Last Days of Magic. The Avengers appear in #7-8 (same month as A6 7-8) as does Luke Cage (before his solo book starts).

NF 1-6 has to happen before SECEMP because SHIELD is still around. Pretty much keeps to itself; publication order suggests shortly before SECEMP.

GLA2 1 happens before the kids quit the Avengers and form the Champions. Also, it’s after Tony Stark “dies.” GLA2 1-7 happens fairly quickly, maybe over a week. Deadpool appears in #7 to let the team know they’re all fired and its mentioned that they haven’t even been a team for very long.
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Col_Fury wrote: Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:51 pm GLA2 1...
Pointing out here that the previous series was "G.L.A.", while this was "Great Lakes Avengers"...
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*checks the indicia*

Huh. Yep, the 2005 series says "G.L.A." in the fine print, dots included. Thanks!

M-T5 1-5 happens on its own with no guest stars. Man-Thing also appears in OML2 14-15, DS4 17, SM/DP 15 (part of the ‘Till Death crossover) and then a SECEMP tie-in. M-T5 1-2 were published the same month as SM/DP 15, so I’m leaning toward placing this after that crossover and before SECEMP.

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AMERICA 1 does indeed start a school semester. #1 & 2 (1-8) happen over a day or three and the Ultimates and Hawkeye (Kate) (same as HAWK5 4) appear. #2 (9-10) & 3-4 happen at some later point and Moon Girl appears in #2 (9-10) (same month as MG&DDINO 18). #5-6 happen during spring break and Hawkeye (Kate) appears again (same as HAWK5 8-9). In #7, Ms. America finishes a project she’s been working on, so this may be near the end of the semester (so May? And past SECEMP?). #8 (Legacy branded) looks like it’s at the start of the following semester, so we may be into August (and past SECEMP) by this point.

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HAWK5 1-11 Wants to be one big continuous plot (it’s a lot of fun, but c’mon people! :lol: ).

HAWK5 1 was published after AYOM/:UNC (or at least the online version) and should take place after that, which is on Halloween.

HAWK5 1-6 has Kate newly in LA. She’s looking for Brad but gets distracted by another case. Jessica Jones shows up in #5-6 (same as JJ 7-8) already having found Brad. Lucky the pizza dog arrives in town in #6, so this is still pretty early on in her time in LA. All of this lasts a few days or so. #6’s end leads into the next plot which involves Madame Masque posing as Hawkeye, but by #7-8 she’s known as a local super hero, so there has to be a break somewhere. The only spot I’m seeing is after Kate picks up Pizza Dog and before she returns to her office. Yes, she’s talking like she’s introducing Pizza Dog to the place, but whatever. Maybe she redecorated or something. So:

AYOM/:UNC
HAWK5 1-5, 6 (1-19)
……
HAWK5 6 (20), 7-11

HAWK5 12 guest stars All-New Wolverine and Hawkeye (Clint) shows up at the end, leading in to the next story, meaning this is almost definitely after SECEMP.

Kate’s already in LA in AMERICA 1, so that has to go after at least HAWK5 1.

Also, I'm REALLY digging this volume of Hawkeye. :)
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I think EL3 (Elektra Volume 3) should be EL4 (Elektra Volume 4)

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EL ELEKTRA 1996-1998
EL2 ELEKTRA VOL. 2 2001-2004
There is an Elektra Volume in 2014-2015, 11 issues https://www.comics.org/series/80317/
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Too true. *doh*

Good eye sir,Thanks! :thumbsup:
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BRSCRS 1-7 happen over a few days. BRSCRS 8 has a great big break for SECEMP (complete with before and after the crossover markers).

BRSCRS 1 wants to start shortly after Clone Conspiracy but doesn't have to. Ben could have wandered around for a while before ending up in Las Vegas.
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ROYALS 1-8 happen pretty quickly (and continues from INHSPRIME), but all in outer space. There’s a gap between #8-9, then #9-12 leads into the Judgment Day one-shot. It looks like SECEMP happens between #8-9. Also, an editor’s note puts ROYALS 9 after BB 6.

BB 1 happens fairly shortly after INHSPRIME. BB 2-6 start at some later point and could be months later. AND OMG YOU GUYZ DEATH’S HEAD IS IN #3

BB 7 starts shortly after #6 and spans some time as Black Bolt & co. make their way across the universe, then leads right into #8. BB 8 references SECEMP, so we’re now past the crossover. BB 9-12 and the overlap with the Judgment Day one-shot was discussed here: http://www.chronologyproject.com/phpbb2 ... =30#p54678

I haven’t read any Secret Empire yet, but I see Absorbing Man appears in #0. If so, all of BB 1-12 happens after SECEMP (and it took a while for Black Bolt to arrive in the space prison).
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Col_Fury wrote: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:00 pm ROYALS 1-8 happen pretty quickly (and continues from INHSPRIME), but all in outer space. There’s a gap between #8-9, then #9-12 leads into the Judgment Day one-shot. It looks like SECEMP happens between #8-9. Also, an editor’s note puts ROYALS 9 after BB 6.
I believe the end of Inhumans Prime and Royals 1 occur much closer to the start of Secret Empire, as in issue 2 the Astarion encounters the Chitauri Swarm at the edge of the solar system, where Flint smashes a hole thru the swarm by flinging Pluto at it (the planet/planetoid/not planet/trans-neptunian object, not the cartoon dog).

Also, CA:SR 12-13 lead straight into TB3 10-12. The Guardians don't appear in these issues. CA:SR 14 is where the Planetary Defense Shield comes on-line. CA:SR 15-16 criss-cross over each other and lead straight into Secret Empire 0.

All of this should occur in short order if possible, and much closer to the start of Secret Empire. [And should probably start the SECRET EMPIRE topic.. :) ]
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I had missed an "earlier" caption in CA:SR 11. That's good! That way, the funeral (the "earlier" flashback) can still be where I have it and the rest can be moved to closer to SECEMP.

I currently have ROYALS 2 about a month after ROYALS 1, and then the Chitauri fleet arrives at Earth about-ish a month after that (in theory, it takes about a month to go from Pluto to Earth *shrug* ). I also have SECEMP tentatively starting on April 1.

Thanks! Also, an update:

CM8 10 (20-30)
GLA 1-7
FCDB2016:CA /2 (1-4:3) (“a few weeks” before ASM4 19)
ASM4 19/2 (1-7:1)
FCBD2016:CA /2 (4:4)
ASM4 19/2 (7:3)
FCBD2016:CA /2 (5:1)
ASM4 19/2 (7:4)
FCBD2016:CA /2 (5:2-5:4)
ASM4 19/2 (8:2)
FCBD2016:CA /2 (5:5)
ASM4 19/2 (8:3-8:5)
FCBD2016:CA /2 (6-9)
IIM3 1
CHMPS2 1 (2:4-5)-FB
CA:SAMW 14-16
MOSAIC 7 (1-3)
ULTS² 1 & 2-FB
DD5 11-14 (“a few weeks” since #10) (before IvX)
CHMPS2 1-4
OML2 14-15 (before IvX)
DD5 15-19 & 20 (1-19)
P11 1-13 (lasts over a month, this is when it ends; no appearances for Frank elsewhere since CWII:CS)
IvX
INHSPRIME (1-21)
UX4 19
TAH 13-14
SGWEN2 14
BULL 1-5 (before CWII:OATH)
CA:SR 7
A6 1-6 (before ASM4 16-18)
VLOKI 1 (1-9) [October 19]
ANX2 19
DS@2 1 (at least “2 weeks” after DS4 11) [October 20?]
ASM4 16-18
ASM4 20-FB (spans a few days)
ASM4 19
X:B 2-FB
XPRIME (1-28)
MOSAIC 7 (11-20) & 8
DS/P:MB 1-4
SOLO2 1-5 (before ASM4 25-28, BP6 9-11)
CA:SR 8
IIM3 2
EL4 1-5
CLONE CONSPIRACY
PROWL2 6
SILK2 18
CLNCON:O /2
SM2 11 (Hill with SHIELD, Miles’ dad goes missing)
SM2 12-FB-FB (Hill with SHIELD, before CWII:OATH)
SGWEN2 16
SM2 13-FB
SGWEN2 17
SM2 14-FB-FB
SM2 14-FB (Champions already a thing)
SGWEN2 18 (1-18) (after CLONE CONSPIRACY)
SM2 12-FB
SGWEN2 18 (19-20)
SM2 15 (1-17)
SM2 12-14
SM2 15 (18) (Diamondback appears, before DEF5 1)
SLORD2 1 (“a rough few weeks” since GOTG arrived on Earth) (X-Mansion still in Limbo)
SLORD2 2 (1-3) (old Star-Lord suit) (newspaper says September 22, but must be October 22)
CLNCON:O /3 (a few days later)
ASM4 25-28 (the following day or three)
GOTG4 14
INFIM 1 (1-12)
GOTG4 15 (1-17)
INFIM 1 (13-16:3)
GOTG4 15 (18-19:2)
GOTG4 15 (19:3-20) ~ INFIM 1 (16:4-17)
INFIM 1 (18-21)
INFIM 2-5 (Hill around)
MG&DDINO 12 (18-20) & 13-14
VLOKI 1 (10-20) [October 22-26]
CA:SR 9-10 (shortly before CWII:OATH)
CWII:OATH-FB-FB (“days” before CWII:OATH)
DS4 12-16 [October 24-26?]
PM&IF3 14-15 (19 days after #13) [October 26?]
VLOKI 2 [October 26-27]
AYOM/:UNC [shortly before Halloween]
JJ 1-6 (Jessica gets out of prison)
HAWK5 1-5, 6 (1-19)
FCBD2017:ANGOTG /2
DEF5 1-2, 3 (1-6)
MCM 0 (1-18) (“weeks” after CWII 8 (1-34))
CWII:OATH-FB (same day as CWII:OATH)
CWII:OATH
JJ 7-11, 12 (1-8) (the day after CWII:OATH)
SM2 15 (19-20) (Hill no longer with SHIELD, after CWII:OATH)
SCRW2 15
SW6 13-16
CA:SAMW 17-18
DS4 17-19
MONSTERS UNLEASHED! (new Star-Lord suit, not yet fully bearded) (Gamora free) (Strange blue cloak)
IIM3 3-6 (Hill no longer around, Defenders a thing, Riri takes “Ironheart” name)
VLOKI 3 [October 29]
MCM 0 (19-20), 1-4 (after CWII:OATH, before CA:SR 11-14)
NO7 1-3
MG&DDINO 15 & 16 (1-17) [Hallowen]
MT2 8 (1) [October 30 – November 3]
NO7 4-6 & 7 (1-16) (before GOTG4 17)
MG&DDINO 16 (18-20) & 17 (“a few days later,” after IvX)
GOTG4 16-17 (Gamora imprisoned)
VLOKI 4 (1-7) [November 3]
SLORD2 2 (4-17) (new Star-Lord suit, fully bearded) (two weeks later, so November 5)
MT2 8 (2) [November 4 – November 7]
MT2 8 (3-20), 9-12 [November 8]
VLOKI 4 (8-20) [November 7-8]
MSM4 13 [November 7-9]
SLORD2 2 (18-20) (three days later, so November 8)
NO7 7 (17-20) (“1 week” after #7 (1-16))
SLAP2 1-6
CA:SR 11-FB (about a week after #10) (GOTG still on Earth)
BP6 9-11
UWASP 1-7, 8 (1-19) (MG&DDINO 13 “recent”)
MSM4 14-17 (lasts several days)
K2 1
MG&DDINO 18
BP:WWKND 6
DD5 20 (20) & DD5 21 (1-18)
K2 2-4
AYOM/:UNC /2 [Thanksgiving]
SLORD2 3-5 (three weeks later, lasts two days, so November 29-30)
BP6 12 (1-18)
RR3 1-5
SLORD2 6 (about a week later, so December 5-ish)
ANGOTG 10-FB
DD5 21 (19-20), 22 (1-17)
MT2 13-14
GOTG4 18-19 (GOTG leave Earth)
ANGOTG 3
ANW 13-18
CHMPS2 5
TAH 15-18
THANOS2 1 (1-14) (Thanos returns to Black Quadrant)
UNWT 1-4, 5 (1-19) (before MT2 15-19, Thanos in Black Quadrant)
X:B 1 (“2 months” after X:B 2-FB)
K2 5
DD5 22 (18-20) (“two weeks” later) [December 20?]
ULTS² 2-5 & 6 (1-18) (holiday season)
AYOM/ /11 [shortly before Christmas]
PM&IF@ 1 [Christmas]
DP6 21-24 [Christmas]
ROCKET 1-6
GOTG:DO
GOTG:ME 1-5
AYOM/ /12 [New Year's Eve]
OML2 16-18, 19-FB
ANGOTG 7-FB (Drax becomes a pacifist)
CHMPS2 6-7 (shortly after the New Year)
ULTS² 6 (19-20) (shortly before college semester?)
UWASP 8 (20) (“two months” after #8 (1-19))
ANGOTG 9 (Groot gets tiny)
GR8 1-5
OML2 19-24 (“9 days” since OML2 19-FB)
SILK2 19
CA:SAMW 19-20 & 21-FB (before January 20)
AMERICA 1, 2 (1-8) (start of school semester)
EXX 20
XPRIME (29-30)
X:G 1-3 (before MT2 15-19)
MT2 15-19 (before USQG2 16)
X:B 2-3
ANGOTG 11
U.S.A 1-3
INHSPRIME (22-30)
ROYALS 1
PATSYWAHCAT 11-FB [late-January]
USQG2 16 [January?]
ANW 19-21
OCCA 1-2
USQG2 17-20 (“weeks” after ULTS² 6?)
PATSYWAHCAT 11-14
FCBD2017:SECEMP /2
DP6 26 [Valentine’s]
PATSYWAHCAT 15-16 [mid-February]
MSM4 18
THANOS2 1 (15-20), 2-6
H4 1-5, 6 (1-18)
CHMPS2 8
H4 6 (19-20) (“a week later”)
SLORD@ 1
SW6 17
IGROOT 1-5
PATSYWAHCAT 17
BRSCRS 1-7, 8-FB
DS&SSS 1-12
A6 7-8
AMERICA 2 (9-20), 3-4
ROYALS 2-8
WX3 1-3 \ TAH 19 \ WX3 4 \ WMD:A \ TAH 20 \ WX3 5 \ TAH 21 \ WX3 6 \ TAH 22
ANW 22-24 (“two weeks” after ANW 19-21, GOTG off-Earth, Groot small, Drax pacifist)
DD5 23 (1-18) (snowy, She-Hulk appears)
OCCA 3-4
V 150/2, V3 1-6, V 150-153
HAWK5 6 (20), 7-11
X:B 4-5
INFIM 6-12 (Ironheart appears, Hill no longer around)
DD5 23 (19-20) & 24 (“two weeks later”) [early/mid March]
X:G 4-6
OCCA 5-7
H4 7-10
NF 1-6
CA:SAMW 24-FB
CA:SAMW 21
THANOS2 7-12 (“4 weeks” after THANOS2 6)
IIM3 7-10 (after INFIM 6-12)
DD5 25 (1-15) [March 20]
DP6 27-28 \ SM/DP 15 \ DP&MFM2 9 \ SM/DP 16 \ DP&MFM2 10 \ DP6 29
FOOL3 1-5
AMERICA 5-6 (spring break)
P11 14
M-T5 1-5
PPSSM2 1-5
SECWARR2 5-FB
CHMPS2 9
USQG2 21
P11 15
U.S.A 4, 5 (1-18)
X:B 6
DP6 30
SECWARR2 1-FB
DP6 31
CA:SR 11-13
TB3 10-12
CA:SR 14
UA3 18-23
CA:SR 15
DS4 20
DD5 25 (16-20) [March 30]
MCM 5 (1-9)
CA:SR 16, 17-FB
SECRET EMPIRE


STILL TO DO:

CABLE v3 1-???
DEADPOOL: TOO SOON? 1-4?
DEADPOOL THE DUCK 1-5?
DEADPOOL vs. PUNISHER 1-5?
GENERATION X v2 1-???
GWENPOOL HOLIDAY SPECIAL
ICEMAN v3 1-???
IRON FIST v5 1-???
JEAN GREY 1-???
LUKE CAGE 1-???
MONSTERS UNLEASHED! v3 1-???
SPIDER-MAN/DEADPOOL 4-???
UNBELIEVABLE GWENPOOL 7-???
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Re: CIVIL WAR II to SECRET EMPIRE

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Col_Fury wrote: Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:19 am (in theory, it takes about a month to go from Pluto to Earth *shrug* )
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Re: CIVIL WAR II to SECRET EMPIRE

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MU3 1-5 happens over a few days and is before SECEMP because SHIELD is still around. There’s no reference I see to say how long it’s been since MU2 1-5.

MU3 6 starts a story that’s continued into #7, which is Legacy cover-branded. We should be past SECEMP by this point. Yes, in the beginning pages we see Dum Dum Dugan in a SHIELD outfit (along with one for the new Intelligencia, etc.), but that’s a remembrance caption to remind the readers of the first story. I’m not seeing any SHIELD character appearances past this point, but I do see a mention that SHIELD’s no longer around in #10.

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ICE3 1 happens after the X-Mansion has been moved to Central Park. Also, I get the impression it’s around Valentine’s.

ICE3 2 happens on a different day and spans at least two days, but not necessarily two consecutive days. Quentin Quire appears back at the school for one panel (asleep).

ICE3 3 starts soon after #2’s end, maybe a few days? Human Torch, Spider-Man (Peter) and a few other are BTS (sending text messages). Same month as ASM4 30 & PPSSM2 2. Spans one day and the next.

ICE3 4 happens across two days. Daken appears. ICE3 5 starts one the same day as #4’s end and lasts one day. Juggernaut appears, as does Quentin Quire.

ICE3 6 is Legacy-branded and Black Widow’s fate is mentioned, so we’re definitely past SECEMP.

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C3 1-5 has Cable following someone around through the timestream; only the last panel of #5 has him in the present day, and even then it’s just of shot of him looking over the city. Really could go anywhere.

C 150 starts another story where Cable has travelled to shortly after XFOR 52, and it’s Legacy-branded, so we’re likely past SECEMP anyway.

C3 1 was published the same month as UA3 23 and really should start after that. I’m not seeing Cable anywhere in Secret Empire, so it looks like it doesn’t really matter.

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JG 1 is a one-day adventure in Japan for Jean. After fighting the Wrecking Crew she gets a vision of the Phoenix returning. Published the same month as MT2 19 where Quentin Quire became the Phoenix host, but must be after that. Also, the nu-X-Men appear, same month as X:B 3-4.

JG 2 starts shortly after last issue and has Quire back on the island he came from in MT2 15-19 and is referenced as a former Phoenix host, so there you go. This should definitely go after MT2 19 and most likely before any appearances he makes back at the X-school.

JG 3 happens on either the same day or the day after #2.

JG 4 could either happen shortly after #3, or a bit after. Meaning, it could have taken Jean a while to figure out where unworthy Thor was.

JG 5 has Jean visiting Psylocke to learn how to make weapons with her telekinesis, so shortly after last issue? Jean figures out the voice in her head is real.

JG 6 has Jean visiting Doctor Strange to get rid of the voice in her head, so shortly after last issue? Jean finds out it’s the ghost of regular Jean, who says she’s been a voice in nu-Jean’s head for “weeks.”

JG 7 has regular Jean actively haunting nu-Jean, who visits the Scarlet Witch, then the issue directly continues into the next which is Legacy-branded.

GENS:PHX&JG has nu-Jean popping into the past to meet Phoenix. nu-Jean is currently looking for Phoenix hosts, so after JG 1, but she’s not yet aware the voice in her head is regular Jean’s ghost, so before at least JG 6. In theory, Jean could have been distracted by Secret Empire before visiting Doctor Strange…

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GENX2 1-2 has a Quentin flashback to him losing the Phoenix Force, so, you know, after MT2 15-19. Also, a new student is joining the X-school, but I’m not sure that means it’s the start of a semester. A big deal is made about Quire asking to come back to the school. Jubilee does tell the students that they’re trying something new with the curriculum, so maybe it is the start of a semester…

GENX2 3 says the new student has been at the X-school for at least a few weeks. #4 happens on that same night. The Gen X kids find out Monet is eating mutants.

GENX2 5 happens in a day; no mention of how long it’s been since last issue.

GENX2 6-7 happens in a day; Jubilee is looking for Monet. No mention of how long it’s been since #4.

GENX2 8-9 happen in a day. Quentin leaves the X-school. GENX 85 (a Saturday) starts three days after GENX2 9 (a Wednesday), and since this issue is Legacy-branded I’ll say we’re past SECEMP by now.
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